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Apr 9, 2018 08:54:28   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
"When I went from shooting 1/500 to 1/4000, my pictures have gone to a level of sharpness I had never seen."

Depending on the lens you are using you should have more than excellent results for sharpness using 1/500 sec. shutter speed. My recommendation is to buy for the D500 a lens with VR. That should be the answer to better and sharper images.

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Apr 9, 2018 08:59:07   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Please explain this fixation on lenses, prime or not.

This is the third thread created on this with same slant.


About 80% is repeated. We get new people with new questions for them, and some older members that do not read every day. It's a fact of life in any forum. Feel free to point them to prior discussion or just hit the ignore key.

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Apr 9, 2018 09:05:06   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
gvarner wrote:
The highest quality, highest priced lens can produce sharp glass when dropped on the ground. With poor technique and limited artistic vision, you're figuratively dropping it on the ground. The highest price and highest quality lens will not automatically produce the highest quality photos. (Now that's a "well, duh".) My output quality is decent enough for me so I look for decent quality lenses at a decent price. End of rant.


It depends on how you lean - to the craftsman/technical side of photography or the artistic side - I try to stay in the middle somewhere - tho, it is easier to be "successful" if you are ALL one way or the other ...!

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Apr 9, 2018 09:12:22   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
gvarner wrote:
The highest quality, highest priced lens can produce sharp glass when dropped on the ground. With poor technique and limited artistic vision, you're figuratively dropping it on the ground. The highest price and highest quality lens will not automatically produce the highest quality photos. (Now that's a "well, duh".) My output quality is decent enough for me so I look for decent quality lenses at a decent price. End of rant.


With respect, your first and second sentences are not necessary at all. I think most people already know what you are saying in the third sentence. Basically your rant, is that you look for decent quality lenses at a decent price. Don't we all?

Why the rant at all. Did you drop an expensive lens and wanted us to know about it? Did you experience a bad lens at a high price? Sorry, I don't see the need for your post. You could have done just as well by posting one sentence, Buy the best lens you can at the best price you can find.

Dennis

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Apr 9, 2018 09:15:12   #
sathca Loc: Narragansett Rhode Island
 
Outstanding photos are made with mediocre lenses by skilled photographers. But that same photographer with a sharp lens is the icing on the cake! Many consumer lenses make great images but the difference when a pro lens is used is obvious. If an outstanding subject and composition is a little soft it may not matter, depending on the subject and composition. Some subjects, wildlife in my opinion, demand tack sharp images in MOST cases. There are, of course, exceptions!

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Apr 9, 2018 09:35:27   #
leftj Loc: Texas
 
BlueMorel wrote:
Cheap to some is expensive to others. Buy what you can afford and perfect the technique. Not all of us aspire to be Andal Adams.


Who is he?

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Apr 9, 2018 09:51:27   #
Steamboat
 
Brucej67 wrote:
Generally speaking cheap glass will not produce as creamy looking bokeh as the more expensive glass due to several reasons in the manufacture of the lens. While I agree the glass might be overpriced it would make no sense for photographers to spend that kind of money if there was not a difference, and you as an individual would have to decide if that was worth it to you. Expensive lenses are not necessary to make a good photograph just like an expensive camera will not guarantee that it will make you a better photographer, but with experience, practice and knowledge it helps.
Generally speaking cheap glass will not produce as... (show quote)


+1

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Apr 9, 2018 10:10:09   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
OddJobber wrote:
Plastic Diana camera.



Yes.

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Apr 9, 2018 10:48:05   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
Steamboat wrote:
You don't need expensive equipment to make nice photos.
A Plastic Diane is a wonderful tool in the hands of a creative, inquisitive person.

Is that what your saying with your dropping analogy ? Or are you referring to the cameras IQ?
A great camera set by the instruction book will produce high IQ of what ever its pointed at.

You are correct the Craft and Art of photography has to do with the person using to the camera and less to do with one tools.

I see you have nice tools ...Whats your point? ......too many cell phone "photographers" out there?
You don't need expensive equipment to make nice ph... (show quote)


No I think his point may have more to do with all the comments about how no-one should ever put a filter on a lens because it degrades the image quality, and that one should use low element primes so as to have the best image quality. I am always left wondering whether the subject matter of those images warrants all that attention to image quality or whether they are just very sharp photos of the backyard birdies and the camera owners fat wife.

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Apr 9, 2018 11:29:33   #
Kuzano
 
gvarner wrote:
The highest quality, highest priced lens can produce sharp glass when dropped on the ground. With poor technique and limited artistic vision, you're figuratively dropping it on the ground. The highest price and highest quality lens will not automatically produce the highest quality photos. (Now that's a "well, duh".) My output quality is decent enough for me so I look for decent quality lenses at a decent price. End of rant.


One of the sharpest lenses in the Nikon stable is the cheap Nikon Nikkor 28-80mm 3.3-5.6 G (Gelded) AF zoom made well over a million on cheap Nikon Film cameras, with a few variants.

Found in large numbers on eBay, selling from $50 to $100. I buy them all the time and put them on Nikon and Fujifilm S-Pro cameras (Nikon base body). I have a Fuji S2Pro coming in the mail (excellent dynamic range, skin tones-portraits and high key shots) and one of the above lenses purchase for $30 WITH an N55 film body. I've owned and sold about a dozen of these.

Whoever told you sharp lenses have to be expensive lied to you. This lens isn't the only sharp lens I have paid huge bucks for many other very shapr lenses.

eBay is your friend.

Ken Rockwell on the lens above:

https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/28-80mm-g.htm

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Apr 9, 2018 11:39:35   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
True, and so is the 70-300mm F4.5-5.6 a sharp lens at a cheap price, however they are also slow lenses.

Kuzano wrote:
One of the sharpest lenses in the Nikon stable is the cheap Nikon Nikkor 28-80mm 3.3-5.6 G (Gelded) AF zoom made well over a million on cheap Nikon Film cameras, with a few variants.

Found in large numbers on eBay, selling from $50 to $100. I buy them all the time and put them on Nikon and Fujifilm S-Pro cameras (Nikon base body). I have a Fuji S2Pro coming in the mail (excellent dynamic range, skin tones-portraits and high key shots) and one of the above lenses purchase for $30 WITH an N55 film body. I've owned and sold about a dozen of these.

Whoever told you sharp lenses have to be expensive lied to you. This lens isn't the only sharp lens I have paid huge bucks for many other very shapr lenses.

eBay is your friend.

Ken Rockwell on the lens above:

https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/28-80mm-g.htm
One of the sharpest lenses in the Nikon stable is ... (show quote)

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Apr 9, 2018 11:57:51   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
pithydoug wrote:
About 80% is repeated. We get new people with new questions for them, and some older members that do not read every day. It's a fact of life in any forum. Feel free to point them to prior discussion or just hit the ignore key.

From the same guy. Don't care about the rest.

Feel free to ignore me too.

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Apr 9, 2018 12:04:05   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
I guess you don't like repeating yourself on every one of these repeated questions.

Rongnongno wrote:
From the same guy. Don't care about the rest.

Feel free to ignore me too.

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Apr 9, 2018 14:05:56   #
Dutzie Loc: I'd like to know
 
Image quality and $ are in direct proportion, get over it....

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Apr 9, 2018 14:24:15   #
canon Lee
 
gvarner wrote:
The highest quality, highest priced lens can produce sharp glass when dropped on the ground. With poor technique and limited artistic vision, you're figuratively dropping it on the ground. The highest price and highest quality lens will not automatically produce the highest quality photos. (Now that's a "well, duh".) My output quality is decent enough for me so I look for decent quality lenses at a decent price. End of rant.


Choosing Lens quality, depends on what you are using your images for.... IE: the net, low resolution, small prints, pets, family shots, vacation, or large high quality prints, like commercial photography, real-estate interiors, product, portfolios, sales... As a full time photographer that is in the business of photography, I have lenses that fit the needs... High quality lenses, in the hands of an experienced photographer, will indeed produce stunningly good images....
If I am getting paid, then I have no choice but to pay for excellent lenses... For all other shots using an iPHONE makes sense....

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