Shooting B&W! Image OTC or PP?
Apr 3, 2018 08:43:35 #
Quick question, if I want to shoot B&W, is there any dif in doing it PP vs. shooting it with the camera setting. Don't know enough to know if you loose anything if you do if PP. Thx
Apr 3, 2018 08:53:53 #
RWR
Loc: La Mesa, CA
Bolton wrote:
Quick question, if I want to shoot B&W, is there any dif in doing it PP vs. shooting it with the camera setting. Don't know enough to know if you loose anything if you do if PP. Thx
Take a shot each way and compare the results.
Apr 3, 2018 08:59:49 #
RWR wrote:
Take a shot each way and compare the results.
I have tried both and cant tell which was which. So I shoot color and convert.
Apr 3, 2018 09:05:05 #
Bolton wrote:
Quick question, if I want to shoot B&W, is there any dif in doing it PP vs. shooting it with the camera setting. Don't know enough to know if you loose anything if you do if PP. Thx
You can only do B&W in camera if you are shooting JPGs. RAW is RAW is Color! I have a lot of control with B&W conversions using ACR and Ps. I think perhaps two fully and only B&W digital cameras have ever been manufactured. One a long gone Nikon and there is still I believe a crazy B&W Leica digital camera for some crazy high price!
Apr 3, 2018 09:05:45 #
boberic wrote:
I have tried both and cant tell which was which. So I shoot color and convert.
Both with JPG right?
Apr 3, 2018 09:07:32 #
RWR
Loc: La Mesa, CA
boberic wrote:
I have tried both and cant tell which was which. So I shoot color and convert.
Same here. Shooting RAW is the only way I know to get a 16-bit TIF.
Apr 3, 2018 09:10:15 #
Due to the fact that, in most cases, hoping to obtain a black and white image SOOC means shooting in jpg format. The better method is to shoot RAW and convert during processing. Now, there are several ways to do that, some methods produce far better results than others.
--Bob
--Bob
Bolton wrote:
Quick question, if I want to shoot B&W, is there any dif in doing it PP vs. shooting it with the camera setting. Don't know enough to know if you loose anything if you do if PP. Thx
Apr 3, 2018 09:18:43 #
Bolton wrote:
Quick question, if I want to shoot B&W, is there any dif in doing it PP vs. shooting it with the camera setting. Don't know enough to know if you loose anything if you do if PP. Thx
While I shoot in RAW, I was educated in finding the full texture and tone while taking monochrome pictures, so I still tend to initiate, plan (light, location, accessories, and train, train, train!), and execute with at least one of my bodies set for monochrome review. I find this helps me to quickly ensure that I’m capturing my Concept, while I’m working.
I must stress that this works well for me (I have some examples of my monochrome work out on this forum), but I am NOT suggesting it’s the only way, best way, or even an OK way for anyone else.
I continue to learn new ways to make different mistakes daily, and I’m generally feeling I’m making steady progress... in another 150 years or so I believe I might get to be OK at this?
Apr 3, 2018 09:20:25 #
The camera sensor captures in color, always. If you specify B&W in the camera, the camera performs a conversion from color to B&W and you get the camera's decisions and the camera's results, including getting only a B&W JPEG. Processing the conversion on your computer provides a lot more control and possibility, whether working from a color JPEG or preferably a RAW file.
Apr 3, 2018 09:28:24 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
The camera sensor captures in color, always. If you specify B&W in the camera, the camera performs a conversion from color to B&W and you get the camera's decisions and the camera's results, including getting only a B&W JPEG. Processing the conversion on your computer provides a lot more control and possibility, whether working from a color JPEG or preferably a RAW file.
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Monochrome review in-camera can help (if you know what you are looking for) you quickly determine if you are “in the ballpark” of the concept you are trying to execute. The Execute phase of your work still includes that processing of RAW to your result (be it JPEG, TIFF, or anything else, including a printed image). Shoot in RAW, then you have options. 😉
Apr 3, 2018 09:40:12 #
Look to Photo Shop-You can convert a raw or any color image to B&W, but the best method for me is using the desaturate category, it retains all of the color values with out a conversion to all gray scale, that is my preference.
Apr 3, 2018 09:41:11 #
Bolton wrote:
Quick question, if I want to shoot B&W, is there any dif in doing it PP vs. shooting it with the camera setting. Don't know enough to know if you loose anything if you do if PP. Thx
To add to some other comments, you have MUCH more control if you shoot in RAW and convert in PP. Just as an example, you can take the blues in a photo (e.g., the sky) and control them separately as you convert (perhaps making them darker and more dramatic) without affecting the greens, reds, yellows and so on. Once it's B&W, that's much more difficult. A huge advantage, at least for me. Have fun!
Apr 3, 2018 09:42:37 #
SuperFly48
Loc: NE ILLINOIS
I have been told by the lab that prints my images that software like Lightroom does a better job "decolorizing" and converting to monochrome than the camera. I sometimes shoot in monochrome just to preview the shot knowing I also have it in RAW if I want to process it for printing.
Apr 3, 2018 09:47:30 #
cabunit wrote:
To add to some other comments, you have MUCH more control if you shoot in RAW and convert in PP. Just as an example, you can take the blues in a photo (e.g., the sky) and control them separately as you convert (perhaps making them darker and more dramatic) without affecting the greens, reds, yellows and so on. Once it's B&W, that's much more difficult. A huge advantage, at least for me. Have fun!
with that ability you can emulate film photography where you used colored filters to get the look you wanted. But, you can control the degree of filtering in PS much more than you ever could with film
Apr 3, 2018 10:22:48 #
Bolton wrote:
Quick question, if I want to shoot B&W, is there any dif in doing it PP vs. shooting it with the camera setting. Don't know enough to know if you loose anything if you do if PP. Thx
There have been lots of comments on this subject. Here's one thread you might find interesting:
"Black and white photography" - http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-509826-1.html
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