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Apr 2, 2018 01:05:15   #
coj Loc: NJ, USA
 
OddJobber wrote:
Sounds like you're still somewhere south of age 70.


That's really funny!!

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Apr 2, 2018 02:35:50   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
JPL wrote:
A drivers license for camera users, compatible to a drivers license for car drivers.


In the US, to get a driver’s license is a joke. Not too many Americans would pass a driving test in Europe.

On the other hand, worrying about other photographers is a waste of time. The only thing that matters is if you are happy with your photos. Like with everything else in life, most people lack talent and will never be good at photography. Taking a bad picture won’t kill you.

Eating the wrong foods on the other hand WILL ahead of time.

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Apr 2, 2018 05:16:55   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
my take on things, is that most people are over cameraed today. looking at my manuals, and reading the thoughts of may members here I conclude.

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Apr 2, 2018 05:16:55   #
bull drink water Loc: pontiac mi.
 
my take on things, is that most people are over cameraed today. looking at my manuals, and reading the thoughts of may members here I conclude.
1 most manuals will take months to read and understand.
2 it would take years of shooting, manual in hand, to get all the potential from the camera.
3 that that new camera had no more than 7 new features or upgrades from you present one.
1 have a sony a-200 and a a-550 that with my premium lenses would serve me well if all my other cameras were lost.

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Apr 2, 2018 05:55:15   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
OddJobber wrote:
Sounds like you're still somewhere south of age 70.


By 8 years, and I had no intent to belittle anyone with a physical impairment as that obviously changes everything.

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Apr 2, 2018 06:40:25   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
JPL wrote:
There is a lot of topics here where people are asking how to upgrade their gear to be able to take better pictures. So there is truly a need for good source of info on how to get the results people are hoping for. UHH is one of the places to look for answers. Youtube is another place. Unfortunately the trend is more in the direction of helping people spend money on new gear rather than helping them learn how to use the gear they already have. And the newbees do not know what to believe, if they need a new gear or not.

Many popular Youtube cannels about photography are run by camera gear salesman with strange hair. Either it is a lot of hair, like they have never cut their hair or they are completly bold or they have boudoir white hair despite not being very old. But most of those strangely haired guys have one in common, they are telling people what gear to buy to take better photos, which in my mind is a kind of strange advice for photographers who do not know what they are doing.

I recently came across a youtube channel that is full of common sense and really good advice about how to use a digital camera and how to compose etc. and they are not focused on selling camera gear or websites, but only helping people get the good results all modern dslr and mirrorless cameras can deliver. The guy behind this youtube channel is Mike Browne. He has a "common" looking hair and that seems to go in line with common sense advice on his channel.

Would it be a good idea to collect in one topic some more of this kind of info to help people to use their gear better and use as reference for those who want to upgrade their gear because they think that is the key to improve their photograpy. The info on Mikes Browne channel alone could probably save UHH members more than million dollars a year in useless gear upgrades.

What do you think about this idea??
There is a lot of topics here where people are ask... (show quote)


And lose the ability to be snarky? Are you kidding, what is the fun in that.

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Apr 2, 2018 06:40:37   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
tbpmusic wrote:
It's the way our up and coming generation thinks - more expensive gear means they'll take better pictures, right?
Can't actually play the guitar? No problem, this video game can let you pretend to play.
Can't really play baseball? No sweat, this other video game lets you pretend to play.
Can't really take a decent photo ? Technology to the rescue - big bucks for gear and PP will cure that, right??

NOT !! All photographers should be required to start with a 4x5 full-movement view camera, and learn the damned basics.

And speaking of Browns, I'm waiting for our own Ed Brown (Old Hippy) to do some instructionals.........
It's the way our up and coming generation thinks -... (show quote)


Good points!

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Apr 2, 2018 06:45:09   #
Votrepear Loc: Sparta MI
 
I put together a program for a local camera club on the subject of improving your photography without spending any money on gear. I'm not anti gear buying but we all see people who spend lots of cash because of the new equipment equals better photographs mentality.
Two things I push in my program, are practice and education.
If you would take the amount you were going to spend on a new lens for instance, on a workshop or even a photographic trip I think you're a lot farther ahead. The cost of some equipment can buy you a lot educational opportunities.

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Apr 2, 2018 06:46:59   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
LWW wrote:
New gear can marginally help someone take better photos if they know how to take great photos in the first place. This is due to a new body having a step of two better light sensitivity or higher shutter speed or VR. The improvements will only come in situations that require the added ability at the fringes.

OTOH if you can’t get great photos at all then new gear won’t help you.

Since the first EXAKTA 35mm DLR people have been taking great photos.

I see people post here routinely that have never learned to shoot off of full auto, never bothered to learn good hand holding skills etcetera.

Technology can be a great tool, but usually is a poor crutch.
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I think people should learn to use (master) the equipment they have before moving on to new or different cameras and lenses. I mainly leave my cameras at ISO 200 and to perhaps 400 - 1600 in low light. The tripod and a light meter are your friends. I learned to use film 6x6cm and 4x5" cameras long ago. Digital has been more of a learning curve.

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Apr 2, 2018 06:59:27   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
JPL wrote:
Oh, I forgot. Here is the link to Mike Browne on youtube. I highly recommend this guy. He is one of the best in regards to photography advice on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/user/photoexposed


I thought you had saved the link on purpose. Putting it in the first post will get the thread moved to Links.

I'll have to watch some of his videos, although he should comb his hair.

He resembles Michael Caine, but he doesn't sound like him.

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Apr 2, 2018 07:28:40   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Steve Perry wrote:
As many of you know, I have a YouTube photo channel as well and I can tell you why you see so many gear vids.

The thing is, I don't get a single dime from Nikon or anyone else - the exchange of money only goes one way, from my wallet to their bank account. However, I do the gear reviews because that's what people want. Those video ALWAYS get more views than the technique ones - and I do a bit of both. And even when I do technique videos, I seldom get questions or followup on the techniques described, but "what lens was that" or what tripod was that" type of questions.

The truth is, people will give lip service to how much more important technique is than gear, but when the rubber meets the road, most of them will hit the gear videos before the technique ones. IMO, that's a pity too. Not only do I firmly believe that technique is 80%+ of a good image, but I prefer to make those kinds of videos as well. However, the constant screams for reviews and gear questions make it nearly mandatory that I do gear videos as well. Interestingly, and to further prove my point, I get next to zero requests for specific technique videos.
As many of you know, I have a YouTube photo channe... (show quote)


The reason that gear videos are probably more popular is that there is always something new on the gear side. Good technique can be tweaked, but how much is new?

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Apr 2, 2018 07:50:13   #
Largobob
 
Steve Perry wrote:
As many of you know, I have a YouTube photo channel as well and I can tell you why you see so many gear vids.

The thing is, I don't get a single dime from Nikon or anyone else - the exchange of money only goes one way, from my wallet to their bank account. However, I do the gear reviews because that's what people want. Those video ALWAYS get more views than the technique ones - and I do a bit of both. And even when I do technique videos, I seldom get questions or followup on the techniques described, but "what lens was that" or what tripod was that" type of questions.

The truth is, people will give lip service to how much more important technique is than gear, but when the rubber meets the road, most of them will hit the gear videos before the technique ones. IMO, that's a pity too. Not only do I firmly believe that technique is 80%+ of a good image, but I prefer to make those kinds of videos as well. However, the constant screams for reviews and gear questions make it nearly mandatory that I do gear videos as well. Interestingly, and to further prove my point, I get next to zero requests for specific technique videos.
As many of you know, I have a YouTube photo channe... (show quote)


Hi Steve,

I don't believe anyone on this site would think anything other than positive things about you and your many contributions.

Personally, the advice you gave me, helped immensely. You are a "trusted source." Your videos present fact-based, measurable, observable, techniques and equipment...In a very articulate and coherent fashion. I hope you continue making videos. Thanks for all you do for us.

And for one, I like your hair. <big grin>

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Apr 2, 2018 07:57:54   #
JPL
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I thought you had saved the link on purpose. Putting it in the first post will get the thread moved to Links.

I'll have to watch some of his videos, although he should comb his hair.

He resembles Michael Caine, but he doesn't sound like him.


This guy not only has a lot of simple and useful info in his videos but he is excellent in transfering that info to the viewers. I really like this guy.

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Apr 2, 2018 08:07:44   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
LWW wrote:
I took it as a slam on FRO KNOWS FOE-TOE who I believe is quite knowledgeable but sometimes obnoxious. My guess is that his hair is that way because he likes his hair that way.


Jared Poulin (For Knows Photo) is an excellent marketer and merchandiser. That’s all you need to know about his expertise and his hair. And if you find him obnoxious, watch Tony Northrop who is also knowledgeable but a very syrupy way.

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Apr 2, 2018 08:18:16   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
N
rwilson1942 wrote:
I ran across a quote a while back but didn't write it down or bookmark it so I'm not sure of the exact wording but it went something like this:

"Expertise in photography is achieved by practice not purchase."



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