Hi All, I'm New Here and Hoping for Some Gear Advice (Page 2): I see no reasons in this world for you not to be able to do good real state photography with an Olympus camera. Cameras...

camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.

I see no reasons in this world for you not to be able to do good real state photography with an Olympus camera. Cameras and lenses are only tools.
A D810 or D750 are not entry level cameras, they are advanced bodies in common use by professional photographers. It is your skills what will determine the quality of your images, not the camera or lens.

chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon

I know great photographers who use Olympus cameras. Images made with m43 cameras that I have seen are good and can show what you desire. I have seen noiseless images in the 24"-36" range made with m43 cameras.

I would suggest for you to learn about all your camera settings. Learn more about light and how to get light into your images. Make your camera settings according to the light you want to capture. Learn how each of your lenses sees the light (experiment and learn from that experience).

I say this as someone who always recomend that people get Sony. However, you have a good camera and there is a not reason for you to upgrade now. Save your money to invest in better lenses for your camera.

JPL

Pat F 4119 wrote:

Hi, I'd like to first say that I'm very new to this forum, but am very happy to have found this site, and have already learned a great deal from the posts I've read. Ok, I'll get right to the point...Like many, I've been interested in photography for a long time, but it wasn't until recently that I've taken it seriously enough to attend classes and read everything I can get my hands on. It seems the more I learn, the more I want to learn, so I'm looking forward to improving my skills as much as possible as things progress. My interest began with taking images of the real estate projects I flip (I'm a real estate broker and an investor), but I'm now interested in landscapes, portraits, and possibly street photography as well. On the recommendation of a salesperson I've gotten to know through the years at a local camera store, I recently purchased an Olympus EM1 MII, with two pro lenses...7-14 f/2.8 and 12-100 f/4. While at first I was very excited to own this new camera, I realized, after seeing some of the images taken by other students in one of my classes, that my photos lacked something, which I now believe to be dynamic range, because mine looked flat, while some of theirs seemed almost three-dimensional. Also, since this camera has a M43 sensor, there's noticeably more noise at higher ISO's. I'm sure some of the blame lies with the person behind the lens, but from what I've read, the issue could also stem from the limitations of a small sensor.

While I love the size of my Olympus, I've concluded that I need to upgrade to full frame in order to obtain the results I'm seeking, which is why I'm asking for advice from what clearly seems to be a very experienced group of photographers.

Since I've grown accustomed to the mirrorless world, I first considered the Sony A7RIII, but it's a bit price-prohibitive, especially when the G Master lenses are considered. I even tried one for a day, and felt as though I wasn't ready for such an advanced piece of engineering, especially at my skill level. So, my latest plan is to purchase a used Nikon D750, as a first step into the full frame world, while keeping my Olympus for now as a travel camera, and see how things go. I also looked at the D810 (online, not it person) and since it appears to be about the same size as the D850, which I do have some experience with, I feel the body is a bit too large, and since I shoot high and low regularly, the tilt screen on the D750 is a bonus.

So, my question is, does my latest plan make sense, or is there another option I should consider? I guess I could always take another look at the Sony, and if I skip a few meals and don't date for a while, the economics could work, but there's something appealing about not having the very best while I'm still learning. Features are great, but at the moment, image quality is my primary focus. (pun intended!)

Thanks in advance for your help!!

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Before doing anything about switching camera you should look at the settings in your camera. You can make the pictures sharper and the colors more vivid and add more contrast by simple going into your camera menu and change those settings. You could ask the other students how they go about to make their pics look so good.
And most importantly you need to look into processing software for your pictures. That is a very important factor and if you shoot raw and use post processing I am pretty sure you can get the same results you like so much from your fellow students. You could also go to flickr.com and search for pics taken with the same camera and lens you are using and ask the photographers there how they get good results with this gear.

I know from my own experiece that I can get excellent pictures from 10+ years old cameras. The main difference in a 10 year old camera and a new one is the pixel count and how good it is in low light. You have a relatively new camera that can give you excellent results.

Pat F 4119 Loc: Branford, CT

Thanks Skiextreme2, That’s good advice, I’m going to try that today. And yes, I am definitely having fun with this process!

Kuzano

Pat F 4119 wrote:

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One of the best camera's you can buy, and two of the lenses are already in your bag, and I assume paid for already. All the camera's you are considering are complex. I also presume that those photos you rave about from all those classes and meetings have the crap PP'd out of them. Doubtful if many of those photos came directly from the owners camera's to those meetings where you are seeing them.

I suspect you are selling your Em1 MkII way short. Learn to use it. Take the time you are spending on the "my next camera myth........" and catering to your GearGas problems and put that olympus to work. Clearly you are not doing the camera justice.

PS, and you'll miss the eating and the dating. You can't get nourishment and/or sex from any camera.

If I had 50 cents for every camera that was going to improve my photography over the years, I'd have enough right now to buy a dozen Nikon 850's. (And still be searching).

It's not the camera's, it's the commitment and motivation of the photographers who make it.

tdekany Loc: Oregon

http://www.sulasula.com/en/olympus-for-nature-and-wildlife-photography-reasons-to-switch/

https://www.diyphotography.net/photographer-switched-olympus-shooting-nikon-42-years/

http://www.intufisuri.ro/2017/07/olympus-om-d-e-m-1-mk-ii-review-or-how.html

Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)

Pat F 4119 wrote:

Thank you everyone for your input, this is very he... (show quote)

Your Oly is capable of better image quality than my Sony - there is no reason to change. No struggle with any decision, other than how soon you will get some image processing software, which one(s) and whether or not the lenses you have will serve your needs.

I would suggest you postpone any new hardware for now.

And though you are feeling like the source of a problem, truth be told, it is more accurate to say you are the solution to this problem. . .

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LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field

Stay the course.... learn to optimize what you now have. If you “need” to buy something, consider buying the last tripod you’ll ever need....

shelty Loc: Medford, OR

All you need is a Nikon D7200 an a 18-400 mm lens on the front of it. And that, my friend, will work for 98% of the pictures you will take.

sirlensalot Loc: Arizona

In my opinion, FF is a good choice. Although I use Canon and Sony (FF and APS-C), the D750 is a much admired camera choice, especially for sports and low-light photography without being a budget killer. M4/3 and APS-C can provide excellent images within the niche of what they are designed and engineered to do. Noise at high ISO from a M4/3 is to be expected compared to a FF camera in low lighting conditions due to sensor size. If shooting in low light with high ISO is more your style, Then I think your plan to purchase a D750 and use the Oly for travel is the way to go. The other option would be to add lighting, education, and experience using current gear.
I have used FF and APS-C for real estate. I choose FF for real estate and architecture now. It was an easy choice to make. More obvious, is another element to consider, which is a commitment to a particular format and / or system. Not saying you have or have not done this, as it seems you have made great strides, but only you can decide.
Bottom line for me - can / will you become a better photographer using one system? Yes, if it fits your style and goal(s). If not, time to change. It's fun to use both though! lol

DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area

Are you shooting RAW, by doing so, you'll capture a greater dynamic range, and, combined with some basic post-processing, you may be surprised by what you get from that EM1!

Hbuk66 Loc: Oswego, NY

If I had the money I would get the Sony a7R11, 42mp and a back illuminated sensor, I can't imagine what the photos look like...

Bobspez Loc: Southern NJ, USA

Just about every picture can benefit from post processing. Do you post process? Also there are benefits to shooting raw and to setting your iso, aperture and shutter speed manually. Do you shoot raw and in manual mode? Mastering those skills should make a bigger impact on your photography than changing cameras without those skills would.

orrie smith Loc: Kansas

Pat F 4119 wrote:

Hi, I'd like to first say that I'm very new to this forum, but am very happy to have found this site, and have already learned a great deal from the posts I've read. Ok, I'll get right to the point...Like many, I've been interested in photography for a long time, but it wasn't until recently that I've taken it seriously enough to attend classes and read everything I can get my hands on. It seems the more I learn, the more I want to learn, so I'm looking forward to improving my skills as much as possible as things progress. My interest began with taking images of the real estate projects I flip (I'm a real estate broker and an investor), but I'm now interested in landscapes, portraits, and possibly street photography as well. On the recommendation of a salesperson I've gotten to know through the years at a local camera store, I recently purchased an Olympus EM1 MII, with two pro lenses...7-14 f/2.8 and 12-100 f/4. While at first I was very excited to own this new camera, I realized, after seeing some of the images taken by other students in one of my classes, that my photos lacked something, which I now believe to be dynamic range, because mine looked flat, while some of theirs seemed almost three-dimensional. Also, since this camera has a M43 sensor, there's noticeably more noise at higher ISO's. I'm sure some of the blame lies with the person behind the lens, but from what I've read, the issue could also stem from the limitations of a small sensor.

While I love the size of my Olympus, I've concluded that I need to upgrade to full frame in order to obtain the results I'm seeking, which is why I'm asking for advice from what clearly seems to be a very experienced group of photographers.

Since I've grown accustomed to the mirrorless world, I first considered the Sony A7RIII, but it's a bit price-prohibitive, especially when the G Master lenses are considered. I even tried one for a day, and felt as though I wasn't ready for such an advanced piece of engineering, especially at my skill level. So, my latest plan is to purchase a used Nikon D750, as a first step into the full frame world, while keeping my Olympus for now as a travel camera, and see how things go. I also looked at the D810 (online, not it person) and since it appears to be about the same size as the D850, which I do have some experience with, I feel the body is a bit too large, and since I shoot high and low regularly, the tilt screen on the D750 is a bonus.

So, my question is, does my latest plan make sense, or is there another option I should consider? I guess I could always take another look at the Sony, and if I skip a few meals and don't date for a while, the economics could work, but there's something appealing about not having the very best while I'm still learning. Features are great, but at the moment, image quality is my primary focus. (pun intended!)

Thanks in advance for your help!!

Hi, I'd like to first say that I'm very new to thi... (show quote)

I have the d750 and think it is a great camera. I pined over upgrading to the d810 or d850 for a long time (still do from time to time), but decided the only real advantage for me was that i like the eye piece and controls better on the d8xx, not a good enough reason to invest $3000+. I recently took the d750 and a d500 to Alaska. I dropped (short drops) the d750 several times climbing, broke a lens cover and the eyepiece, but the camera overall survived very well, with no major repairs needing to be done. I was very happy with the sturdiness of this camera.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Pat F 4119 wrote:

Yes, which is why I like the idea of having so many more lens options with the Nikon F mount.

The Sony will use all the Nikon legacy glass.