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Mar 18, 2018 07:18:55   #
bhaessler
 
I am paid to shoot baseball. I use a 100-400 for daylight games with a 1.4 extender, and at night I use a 300mm 2.8 lens. If you are trying to shoot the outfield you will be very unhappy with a lens that’s top zoom is 200. Most high school teams won’t let you in the fencing unless you are their team photographer, so plan accordingly. Shooting through the fence is not a problem with a long zoom. I shoot Canon, so I am not familiar with Nikon lenses, but I would look into the Tamron or Sigma lenses, 150-600. Until you get use to the weight, use a monopod. All of these were taken with the 100-400.









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Mar 18, 2018 08:11:57   #
Kozan Loc: Trenton Tennessee
 
bdub8 wrote:
Hi all

I’m looking for recommendations. I’m getting back into photography and want to start photographing my son’s H.S. Baseball games. I’m considering buying the Nikon D500, not sure what lens I need (he pitches and plays outfield) or if I should be getting a full frame camera and not the D500.

Any help, recommendations and (of course) pictures are welcome.

Thanks


Stick with the D500. For daytime baseball, the Tamron 18-400mm f/3.5-6.3 or even the kit 55-300mm f/4.5-5.6 should work great! For nighttime, a fast lens like the Tamron 70-200mm f/2.8 may be needed. I'm not sure they would allow flash at night. If they do, go for it. I plan on doing a 5 P.M. H.S. game next Tuesday. Good luck.

Kozan

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Mar 18, 2018 08:26:14   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
My initial advice would be to watch a lot of baseball. Learn the game and learn to anticipate the action. And don’t ignore the “off stage action”. Be observant.

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Mar 18, 2018 08:51:45   #
wewilly
 
I shoot high school sporting events for baseball, track and basketball. I have a Nikon D7200 and a full frame D750. I'm a move you feet type photographer for better composition. After much use of prime lenses I finally bought Nikkors 80-400 and absolutely love it. On the DX I get the crop factor to extend to 600mm for telephoto needs. I like using it on the FX because I get a little more field of view. I always take my nifty fifty 1.8 along for normal views. Inside I use my 85mm on my FX and I haven't had the opportunity to try my 80-400 yet. I always shoot in RAW mode in both cameras. I personally like my d750 for making higher quality shots.

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Mar 18, 2018 09:03:27   #
bwilliams
 
I stand between 1 base and home to start and when someone is on base between home and 3rd. It maybe a hold over from the manual focus days but you can quickly get each base.

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Mar 18, 2018 09:12:56   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
I've shot a few day games with my D7000 and the 18-200 zoom. You can crop to zoom for those close-in results and not lose much quality. Anticipating the action is the hardest part.

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Mar 18, 2018 09:59:36   #
clemente21
 
I have shot my kids baseball from little league through college. Also, take my camera to our local AAA minor games. You have been given good responses. Here are some tips I would like to add.

I shoot with a D500 and a 70-300mm, I do use an Optech sling strap https://optechusa.com/utility-strap-sling.html to rest the camera between innings. Use a manfrotto quick release plate for the camera and attach the strap to it. That way the strap won't be in your way.

I used to shoot from the foul lines (ask the umpire first!), but I find much better to carry a two-step ladder and shoot from over the fence and get better angles. Shooting from the dugout (ask the coach too!) is nice to get home plate photos, but I find the players and umpires get in the way of other plays and miss the shot.

ALWAYS keep an eye where is the ball. Especially, when you are close to first base. Foul balls and warm up throws between innings can also get you if you are exposed.

If there is a net between you and the game, pressing the lens against the net will make the net less visible. Again, watch for balls coming your way.

Always include the ball in your pictures. Makes the shot much more interesting.

if you are in the field, you can get good pitcher shots when warming up between innings.

Look out for players expressions and emotions.

Happy shooting, it's a lot of fun.

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Mar 18, 2018 10:06:38   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
clemente21 wrote:
I have shot my kids baseball from little league through college. Also, take my camera to our local AAA minor games. You have been given good responses. Here are some tips I would like to add.

I shoot with a D500 and a 70-300mm, I do use an Optech sling strap https://optechusa.com/utility-strap-sling.html to rest the camera between innings. Use a manfrotto quick release plate for the camera and attach the strap to it. That way the strap won't be in your way.

I used to shoot from the foul lines (ask the umpire first!), but I find much better to carry a two-step ladder and shoot from over the fence and get better angles. Shooting from the dugout (ask the coach too!) is nice to get home plate photos, but I find the players and umpires get in the way of other plays and miss the shot.

ALWAYS keep an eye where is the ball. Especially, when you are close to first base. Foul balls and warm up throws between innings can also get you if you are exposed.

If there is a net between you and the game, pressing the lens against the net will make the net less visible. Again, watch for balls coming your way.

Always include the ball in your pictures. Makes the shot much more interesting.

if you are in the field, you can get good pitcher shots when warming up between innings.

Look out for players expressions and emotions.

Happy shooting, it's a lot of fun.
I have shot my kids baseball from little league th... (show quote)

Happy to see you are honoring the great Clemente. Still the best right fielder I’ve seen in 54 years of following the game. Oh the arm! What people forget is how much territory he covered: Old Forbes field was something like 454’ to right center. Most fields today are less than 400’.

Retire #21.

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Mar 18, 2018 10:26:52   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
bdub8 wrote:
Hi all

I’m looking for recommendations. I’m getting back into photography and want to start photographing my son’s H.S. Baseball games. I’m considering buying the Nikon D500, not sure what lens I need (he pitches and plays outfield) or if I should be getting a full frame camera and not the D500.

Any help, recommendations and (of course) pictures are welcome.

Thanks


Hi Club Member:
I see here a lot of shooters are recommending a 70-200 for baseball. I don't agree at all and why not enough reach. Especially if your shooting through a fence or even in the dugout. From 1st base dugout you will be able to capture plays at 1st base, second base and maybe home. That's it. I strongly recommend a lens with bigger reach like a 80-400 5.6-6.3. You can find one used for around $1000. I use this lens on my D500 and it's great. Plays in the outfield are a bit iffy, but for the entire field it's great.
Try to get permission from the coach to shoot from the dugouts to get you closer and stay out of the way. The kids are usually great about this.
If you have to shoot through the fence put your lens right in the middle between the links.
Here are a few shots using this lens combo and good luck.


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Mar 18, 2018 10:58:34   #
CO
 
Jules Karney wrote:
Hi Club Member:
I see here a lot of shooters are recommending a 70-200 for baseball. I don't agree at all and why not enough reach. Especially if your shooting through a fence or even in the dugout. From 1st base dugout you will be able to capture plays at 1st base, second base and maybe home. That's it. I strongly recommend a lens with bigger reach like a 80-400 5.6-6.3. You can find one used for around $1000. I use this lens on my D500 and it's great. Plays in the outfield are a bit iffy, but for the entire field it's great.
Try to get permission from the coach to shoot from the dugouts to get you closer and stay out of the way. The kids are usually great about this.
If you have to shoot through the fence put your lens right in the middle between the links.
Here are a few shots using this lens combo and good luck.
Hi Club Member: br I see here a lot of shooters ar... (show quote)


Really good shots. You captured lots of great action. Is that the Nikon 80-400mm AF-S you're using? You may have typed the aperture wrong. It's actually an f/4.5-5.6 lens. I have one. It's an excellent lens.

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Mar 18, 2018 11:05:21   #
saintsrest44
 
You've gotten some great advice in the posts above! My own 2 cents follows: Your budget may not allow it, but I use two D7000's - I bought one brand new and the other was bought new after the release of the D7500 for a considerable discount. I keep the 18-200 on one body and the 200-500 on the other (I do disagree with those who say the 200-500 isn't a good choice; most of my better shots were taken with that lens and I've never had any problem with pitching speed and capturing the ball even though a good HS softball pitcher can hit speeds over 70 mph). I keep the body with the shorter zoom on a neck strap or on a peak design belt clip, and the other on a Manfrotto monopod. Here in Iowa about half of the HS softball fences are at about 5ft. That's perfect for the 200-500. The rest of the fences can be pretty damned tough to work with as they range as high as 8 - 10 ft. Many fields have outfield platforms that you can ask to use. I found a 4 step foldable ladder with rails and large steps from Tri-Arc and now haul that to games where the fences are tall and there are no platforms. I ALWAYS ask permission to shoot, especially if I plan to use a ladder/platform in the outfield or on a side fence. Some coaches feel cameras peering over the fence are a distraction, and that can limit what you do. Yeah, that's getting to be a lot of gear, but it certainly makes for some fantastic shots.

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Mar 18, 2018 11:22:30   #
bdub8
 
Thanks everyone for your responses, I appreciate all of the help and recommendations. I'm looking to have fun with this and plan purchase my new equipment in the next few weeks (as soon as I finish my taxes).

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Mar 18, 2018 11:41:11   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
CO wrote:
Really good shots. You captured lots of great action. Is that the Nikon 80-400mm AF-S you're using? You may have typed the aperture wrong. It's actually an f/4.5-5.6 lens. I have one. It's an excellent lens.


Your right, my bad. Yes this is the lens that I use.

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Mar 18, 2018 12:28:36   #
SAVH Loc: La Jolla, CA
 
LWW wrote:
At a local HS game you can get so close that a 200-500 would be overkill to shoot primarily a pitcher IMHO, plus it is plenty fast for wildlife but a bit slow for baseball as well as expensive and bulky.

A D7XXX and a used but not abused 80-200 f2.8 AFD will do the job quite well.

If used scares you a D7200/7500 and an 18-200 will do the job in day games, but again slow for night games. The 70-200 2.8 AFS replaced the AFD version, but its pricey.

If you use high speed continuous shutter at 1/1000 second or higher it will be able to stop a pitch pretty much dead in flight. At 1/4000 or 1/8000 ... probably need the 2.8, or a used NIKKOR 70-210 f4 lens which is much lighter ... you can see the stitches on a 90 MPH+ pitch.

NIKKOR pro/serious amateur lenses are pretty bulletproof if taken even reasonable care of ... but you need to be sure you buy a body with an internal focus motor for the lenses I have described, other than the 18-200 which is an AFS and will work well on a 3XXX series body.

If you have any questions about technique or additional lenses feel free to ask.

I have shot a ton of free lance sports from high school to the Dayton Dragon A league baseball pros to the Cincinnati Reds MLB team as well as vintage baseball leagues and would be glad to help.

Its not difficult but you do need to know the right techniques.

If you shoot day games and are inexperienced the 18-200 with VR might be the best choice. I have all the lenses mentioned and the 18-200 is my go to walking around jack of all trades lens.

The 70-210 is primarily my zoo lens where all day walking is going on and the animals don't move 90 MPH.

An 80-200 2.8 and 300 f4 are my go to sports lenses.

I hope this helps.
At a local HS game you can get so close that a 200... (show quote)


This is the type of Hog answer that makes the whole site worthwhile. A very thoughtful, comprehensive set of suggestions along with an offer to assist personally. You don't get any better than this. Thank you LWW.

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Mar 18, 2018 12:34:27   #
Jules Karney Loc: Las Vegas, Nevada
 
saintsrest44 wrote:
You've gotten some great advice in the posts above! My own 2 cents follows: Your budget may not allow it, but I use two D7000's - I bought one brand new and the other was bought new after the release of the D7500 for a considerable discount. I keep the 18-200 on one body and the 200-500 on the other (I do disagree with those who say the 200-500 isn't a good choice; most of my better shots were taken with that lens and I've never had any problem with pitching speed and capturing the ball even though a good HS softball pitcher can hit speeds over 70 mph). I keep the body with the shorter zoom on a neck strap or on a peak design belt clip, and the other on a Manfrotto monopod. Here in Iowa about half of the HS softball fences are at about 5ft. That's perfect for the 200-500. The rest of the fences can be pretty damned tough to work with as they range as high as 8 - 10 ft. Many fields have outfield platforms that you can ask to use. I found a 4 step foldable ladder with rails and large steps from Tri-Arc and now haul that to games where the fences are tall and there are no platforms. I ALWAYS ask permission to shoot, especially if I plan to use a ladder/platform in the outfield or on a side fence. Some coaches feel cameras peering over the fence are a distraction, and that can limit what you do. Yeah, that's getting to be a lot of gear, but it certainly makes for some fantastic shots.
You've gotten some great advice in the posts above... (show quote)


I see fellow photogs. on the tops of the dugouts. I say to myself nope to old for that stuff. The angles would be different for sure. Darn

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