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Mar 17, 2018 05:39:02   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
SharpShooter wrote:
As I see the parade of post on UHH, most are about TECH, cameras, lenses or how they work or what we need?!
Does anybody have to know or even care how the duel pixel focusing system in their camera even works?
Who cares what the light meter is doing, the camera can do that all by itself!
Most of the pics shot on Manual are worse than the ones shot on Auto, at least that’s what many come on here saying.
I’ve said here many times that composition is KING! So if we compose well, why do we need to know any technical BS at all?!?! Gone are the days of full manual cameras with no meters and flying by the seat of your pants.
The cameras are way smarter than we are anyway.
With only a few exceptions, do we need to know any tech at all??? Do we?
Do you, other than to sound impressive???
I say no, what do you say?!
Feel free to post some pics to show your position. How you feel knowledge of tech helped your image!
SS
As I see the parade of post on UHH, most are about... (show quote)


Perhaps you need both the technical and the natural creative vision to be truly good.
Ansel Adams had this combination.
As an Architect one must have an excellent grasp of the technical including Structural Engineering, Mechanical, Electrical and Plumbing engineering as well as civil Engineering among dozens of other technical things along with creativity.
Having a knowledge of what the camera is doing technically is of value. One might not need to be able to build one but understand what is going on and why.
Oh well.

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Mar 17, 2018 06:09:11   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
SharpShooter wrote:
As I see the parade of post on UHH, most are about TECH, cameras, lenses or how they work or what we need?!
Does anybody have to know or even care how the duel pixel focusing system in their camera even works?
Who cares what the light meter is doing, the camera can do that all by itself!
Most of the pics shot on Manual are worse than the ones shot on Auto, at least that’s what many come on here saying.
I’ve said here many times that composition is KING! So if we compose well, why do we need to know any technical BS at all?!?! Gone are the days of full manual cameras with no meters and flying by the seat of your pants.
The cameras are way smarter than we are anyway.
With only a few exceptions, do we need to know any tech at all??? Do we?
Do you, other than to sound impressive???
I say no, what do you say?!
Feel free to post some pics to show your position. How you feel knowledge of tech helped your image!
SS
As I see the parade of post on UHH, most are about... (show quote)


It's a substitute for going out and making pictures. Gear talk.

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Mar 17, 2018 06:19:05   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
dar_clicks wrote:
Many decades ago I began my interest in photography using a Kodak Brownie Hawkeye 620, then 15 years later spent some years with a Kodak Instamatic 104 — all the while concentrating on composition. That effort was far from being wasted but there frequently were limits to some situations that had me puzzled and wondering what was needed to get better results. The switch to 35mm, and later adding digital, really opened up creative possibilities, but I regret spending so many past years where I was not doing a better job of learning how to work with light, or having light work for me, however you might want to express that. My equipment had been too simple! We now live in a gadget lover’s paradise — so many tools that work so well. . . . and boy, oh boy, I’m not complaining!
Many decades ago I began my interest in photograph... (show quote)


This is an interesting post, so my question is, is light control outside of the camera part of technical control or composition? Your Brownie Hawkeye and Instamatic had no f/stop or shutter speed controls that could control the amount of light coming into the camera so it would seem to me that any light control with those cameras would have to be with composition. Your thoughts?

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Mar 17, 2018 06:23:03   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
Mac wrote:
I had never given that any thought, but need to know? Not really. How many people understand what allows an airplane to fly or an 80,000 ton steel ship to float? Yet they still get on airplanes or go to sea. That applies to most things, including photography. Knowing and understanding the Tech is interesting, but not necessary.


Exactly. Or even drive a car or use a computer.

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Mar 17, 2018 06:36:40   #
mikedidi46 Loc: WINTER SPRINGS, FLORIDA
 
I use Tv or Av settings, and then set my ISO, I take multiple shots of an area, looking at composition, then decide which one is what I want. I tried the tech stuff, but when walking around, you have little time.

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Mar 17, 2018 06:46:36   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Steve Perry wrote:
The technical and artistic side of photography are two halves that come together to create a successful image. If I had a dime for every beautifully composed image I've seen that was ruined by not understanding a technical aspect of the camera (how your meter works, how your AF system works, etc), I could retire to a multimillion dollar mansion in the Bahamas. At the same time, a photographer who understands how everything works and can leverage the technical aspects, but lacks vision, will only produce snapshots.

Having an understanding of both gives the best results. In the end, you don't want a lack of technical understanding to make you lose a once-in-a-lifetime image.
The technical and artistic side of photography are... (show quote)


Steve's post could succinctly and fully end the discussion; but it won't.
That is good.

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Mar 17, 2018 06:47:10   #
mudduck
 
Maybe that's what he means, with the new super, doper cameras you don't need to learn the new tricks because Nikon, canon, sony, etc have learned them and put them in the camera for you.

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Mar 17, 2018 06:48:30   #
Largobob
 
srt101fan wrote:
Good question. Looking forward to a lively debate.

I tend to agree that you don't need a lot of the technical stuff. But I disagree with you that composition is King. I would put subject/content first, composition second.


I personally put lighting as #1. Without proper/compelling lighting, the best subject/composition/technical aspects mean little.

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Mar 17, 2018 07:08:03   #
drbilly
 
I am an amateur who simply enjoys the hobby. The more I get into the post processing, the more I see the benefits but the more I realize that I don’t enjoy it nearly as much as I enjoy taking photographs. Of course professionals need to understand tech, just like an airline pilot need to understand why and how a plane flies, amateurs need to understand how to have fun found whatever they choose.

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Mar 17, 2018 07:13:55   #
LFingar Loc: Claverack, NY
 
SharpShooter wrote:
As I see the parade of post on UHH, most are about TECH, cameras, lenses or how they work or what we need?!
Does anybody have to know or even care how the duel pixel focusing system in their camera even works?
Who cares what the light meter is doing, the camera can do that all by itself!
Most of the pics shot on Manual are worse than the ones shot on Auto, at least that’s what many come on here saying.
I’ve said here many times that composition is KING! So if we compose well, why do we need to know any technical BS at all?!?! Gone are the days of full manual cameras with no meters and flying by the seat of your pants.
The cameras are way smarter than we are anyway.
With only a few exceptions, do we need to know any tech at all??? Do we?
Do you, other than to sound impressive???
I say no, what do you say?!
Feel free to post some pics to show your position. How you feel knowledge of tech helped your image!
SS
As I see the parade of post on UHH, most are about... (show quote)


Good point. There are only two things I feel I really need to know about any camera: What is it capable of and how can I best use that capability. I don't really need to know, for example, how a USM focus motor works in comparison to an STM so long as I know what to expect from each. I don't care how my exposure meter arrives at its conclusions so long as I know its accuracy and what results to expect from the various exposure modes. My wife wouldn't know an f stop from a bus stop, yet, those times when she borrows one of my cameras, on Auto of course, she produces some excellent results. She has a natural eye for composition that I envy.

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Mar 17, 2018 07:45:34   #
BlueMorel Loc: Southwest Michigan
 
I'm a techie at heart and enjoy the tech discussions. On my limited budget I can't buy all the cool stuff you all discuss, but I still pick up tecniques and tips from time to time to use with my own setup. Keep on teaching!

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Mar 17, 2018 07:50:13   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
SharpShooter wrote:
As I see the parade of post on UHH, most are about TECH, cameras, lenses or how they work or what we need?!
Does anybody have to know or even care how the duel pixel focusing system in their camera even works?
Who cares what the light meter is doing, the camera can do that all by itself!
Most of the pics shot on Manual are worse than the ones shot on Auto, at least that’s what many come on here saying.
I’ve said here many times that composition is KING! So if we compose well, why do we need to know any technical BS at all?!?! Gone are the days of full manual cameras with no meters and flying by the seat of your pants.
The cameras are way smarter than we are anyway.
With only a few exceptions, do we need to know any tech at all??? Do we?
Do you, other than to sound impressive???
I say no, what do you say?!
Feel free to post some pics to show your position. How you feel knowledge of tech helped your image!
SS
As I see the parade of post on UHH, most are about... (show quote)


A practiced eye, a painters eye, an artist's eye is a basic requirement. A professional golfer can use the cheapest clubs out there and get great results, why? cause when they were little they took lessons.
Most professional photographers I knew when had mentor's who brought them along. Many took course work, many worked as a stringer for pro's. Many who learned on their own LEARNED THE BASICS OF EXPOSURE, RULES OF COMPOSITION, LIGHTING BASICS.
My sister in law is an artist, when she does pick up a camera her results are superb. She applies her background to her image making.

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Mar 17, 2018 07:51:02   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
BlueMorel wrote:
I'm a techie at heart and enjoy the tech discussions. On my limited budget I can't buy all the cool stuff you all discuss, but I still pick up tecniques and tips from time to time to use with my own setup. Keep on teaching!



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Mar 17, 2018 08:12:55   #
SonyBug
 
I don't comment on so many pictures I see here, not because the photographer does not try to do something, but they are not artistic at all. Not to say that all of mine are art either, but come-on, a picture of a field and the comment is "what do you think". I think that cameras bring joy to many people. Just getting the exposure right is an achievement for many people. I want to produce "art" and that is what I hang on my walls. About 30 blowups if you are interested. So, to each his own. I comment when I see great exposure, composition, artistic achievement. And for the rest, I just think to myself. No Trophy Here!

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Mar 17, 2018 08:17:26   #
BebuLamar
 
Haydon wrote:
Funny when Art Wolfe holds his lectures/workshops he specifically avoids technical questions/settings and openly admits that it's his eye that makes images and not the guts inside the camera with the latest features/gimmicks.


That's not admitting, That's bragging.

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