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Mar 13, 2018 12:28:59   #
DanielB Loc: San Diego, Ca
 
Simple answer is JPEG Fine/large for a beginner just learning. That being said - how familiar are you with editing software like Lightroom and Photoshop? If your using a decent editor you should start learning workflow for editing RAW files as you have much more ability to do fine editing without degrading your image. Also note; unedited RAW files may appear to be less brilliant than a JPEG right out of the camera but the magic happens after in post processing. Learn the difference between JPEG (compressed file format or Lossy) and RAW (Uncompressed /lossless). There are great tutorial video's on YouTube on these subjects. Pick one aspect of photography at a time and practice it. Start with basics - Shutter speed, Aperture and ISO (The triangle of settings) and basic post processing editing and have fun.

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Mar 13, 2018 12:55:09   #
2CWorld
 
Read the reply I made on my own topic. It's funny that I posted it here. do you think anyone will read it. ha ha

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Mar 13, 2018 13:17:28   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
2CWorld wrote:
As a beginner photographer, what setting should you suggest I use, fine, raw or jpeg.


You can always make jpegs from raw files. You can never make raw files from jpegs.

Mike

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Mar 13, 2018 13:20:40   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
DanielB wrote:
Simple answer is JPEG Fine/large for a beginner just learning. That being said - how familiar are you with editing software like Lightroom and Photoshop? If your using a decent editor you should start learning workflow for editing RAW files as you have much more ability to do fine editing without degrading your image. Also note; unedited RAW files may appear to be less brilliant than a JPEG right out of the camera but the magic happens after in post processing. Learn the difference between JPEG (compressed file format or Lossy) and RAW (Uncompressed /lossless). There are great tutorial video's on YouTube on these subjects. Pick one aspect of photography at a time and practice it. Start with basics - Shutter speed, Aperture and ISO (The triangle of settings) and basic post processing editing and have fun.
Simple answer is JPEG Fine/large for a beginner ju... (show quote)


If the person is using the Canon system there is absolutely no need for them to learn or buy editing software like Lightroom and Photoshop. Nor will raw files appear to be less brilliant than a JPEG.

Mike

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Mar 13, 2018 13:22:23   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
steve49 wrote:
this is the holy grail of arguments here.
it depends on what you are looking to do w the photos as well as how much
time you wish to spend in the "darkroom" that is your computer..


This is not necessarily true. Using the Canon system, working with raw files is not more time consuming or difficult than working with jpegs.

Mike

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Mar 13, 2018 13:38:30   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
ctsteps5 wrote:
I have read all the posts, yep snowing out bad, so I have the time. Not newbie. but willing to learn. So based on all the reply's, shooting raw/jpeg is the best option. But, I need to use a specific software program too edit raw. Its a too bit too complicated for my simple mind. What online program do u suggest to edit raw pictures that can make is almost as easy as editing a Jpeg.


The raw files are proprietary with each camera manufacturer. Canon has its own program for editing Canon raw files that comes with the camera. Others here can suggest options for the other camera manufacturers.

The question you asked is notorious for drawing out the worst misinformation. I only worked with jpegs for 3 years based on advice I got on line. That was a big mistake, because after I understood what working with raw files could do there was no way to go back and write those images as raw files. I say "work with" and "write" raw files because the camera always "shoots in raw" it is simply a matter of how much of the information the camera gathers that you want to write to the card and in what format.

By the way, there is an "ask the pros" section here:

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/s-129-1.html

There are quite a few specialty sections here that are not obvious. At the bottom of the home page there is a link called "All Sections" that reveals all of the forums.

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/all-section-list

Mike

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Mar 13, 2018 14:09:14   #
2CWorld
 
I like your answer because I think I'm in over my head again. I with stick with fine for now, and will practice taking pictures on manual using my knowledge of Shutter Speed, ISO, and Aperture which I think I have a good understanding of. My only worry is that I might regret not using Jpeg or Raw for future use. I don't have Photo Shop, so that will be new for me also. Isn't Photo Shop expensive? Anyway I love my Sony Alpha SLT A57K camera, and will continue to take a lot of pictures, which I'm really enjoying now. I will always have this information for future use. I'm really happy that I've gotten as far as I have. I do seem to find myself asking to many questions though. I do appreciate all the input you all have given me. Enjoy hearing your input and conversations. Read the past post I wrote here to explain what I've been doing since my membership in 2012. Thanks again for input. Love this site. Linda

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Mar 13, 2018 15:44:39   #
gwilliams6
 
2CWorld wrote:
I like your answer because I think I'm in over my head again. I with stick with fine for now, and will practice taking pictures on manual using my knowledge of Shutter Speed, ISO, and Aperture which I think I have a good understanding of. My only worry is that I might regret not using Jpeg or Raw for future use. I don't have Photo Shop, so that will be new for me also. Isn't Photo Shop expensive? Anyway I love my Sony Alpha SLT A57K camera, and will continue to take a lot of pictures, which I'm really enjoying now. I will always have this information for future use. I'm really happy that I've gotten as far as I have. I do seem to find myself asking to many questions though. I do appreciate all the input you all have given me. Enjoy hearing your input and conversations. Read the past post I wrote here to explain what I've been doing since my membership in 2012. Thanks again for input. Love this site. Linda
I like your answer because I think I'm in over my ... (show quote)


2CWorld, you ARE making jpegs if your camera is set to FINE. Fine just means the quality of your jpeg. On most cameras the FINE or Extrafine setting is the highest quality jpeg setting. Cheers

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Mar 13, 2018 18:49:30   #
2CWorld
 
Staying with the jpeg setting. I don't feel the need to go with RAW right now. I just want to have fun taking pictures. and if I like one of my shots I'll just print it out, that simple. Simple is good for me now. Thanks for your response about what the fine setting is. Helpful. Thank you!

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Mar 13, 2018 18:52:17   #
gwilliams6
 
2CWorld wrote:
Staying with the jpeg setting. I don't feel the need to go with RAW right now. I just want to have fun taking pictures. and if I like one of my shots I'll just print it out, that simple. Simple is good for me now. Thanks for your response about what the fine setting is. Helpful. Thank you!


Just enjoy it your way. You are most welcome. Cheers and happy snapping !

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Mar 13, 2018 19:01:23   #
Hbuk66 Loc: Oswego, NY
 
i shoot jpeg because I don't do post processing.

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Mar 13, 2018 19:12:33   #
gwilliams6
 
Hbuk66 wrote:
i shoot jpeg because I don't do post processing.


Hbuk66 there is nothing WRONG with shooting jpegs for convenience and ease. I just hope one day you have an opportunity to shoot the same scene raw+jpeg and have the raw processed and see the full quality your camera and lens can produce. You deserve to, at least once ,see what you are missing. Cheers

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Mar 13, 2018 19:45:54   #
Charles P Loc: Southern Central NY State
 
ctsteps5 wrote:
I have read all the posts, yep snowing out bad, so I have the time. Not newbie. but willing to learn. So based on all the reply's, shooting raw/jpeg is the best option. But, I need to use a specific software program too edit raw. Its a too bit too complicated for my simple mind. What online program do u suggest to edit raw pictures that can make is almost as easy as editing a Jpeg.


I like Fast Stone Image Viewer for minor editing of raw and it works on jpegs too. It's easy to use, and probably all you'll need at first.
http://www.faststone.org/FSViewerDownload.htm Download the tutorial as well in case you need a little help learning it.

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Mar 13, 2018 23:13:02   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Easier to go with JPEG files at first. Know, however, that when you process the JPEG image and save over it, then you will lose the original version of the JPEG file.

Remedy: When saving the file, give it a slightly different name. Then it will save under that name, and not overwrite the original JPEG file.

If you feel you are dedicating yourself to photography, then consider the option of saving your images in both JPEG and RAW file formats. You can set your camera to save this way automatically.

As a rule, the RAW files will give you more latitude later when processing them.

As to results, I strongly suggest learning composition as the best way to produce better photographs.

Good luck.
2CWorld wrote:
As a beginner photographer, what setting should you suggest I use, fine, raw or jpeg.

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Mar 14, 2018 06:27:27   #
2CWorld
 
I'll check it out. Thanks!

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