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Feb 28, 2018 01:38:49   #
Quantus5
 
JimH123 wrote:
In watching how Sony has raised the bar with the A7iii, it makes me wonder what the yet to be announced A6700 (or whatever they decide to call it) is going to be able to do? I suspect that they are going to raise the APS-C bar also. Thus I am guessing that just a small improvement over the A6500 is not in their plans.

And I also suspect that the not yet announced A7siii is going to be something also.


On the A6700, my guess is improved autofocus, improved dynamic range, improvements in video capabilities, and some ergonomic improvements over the A6500. The A6700 or whatever they decide to call it will probably come out later this year. There has even been talk about a A5300, but I doubt that, why not just come out with the A6700 and then lower the price on the A6300 and make the A6300 the low end model.

The A7sIII will probably be a lot like the A7III just a sensor with less megapixels, and incredible low light performance. This should also come out later this year.

Personally, I'd much rather have the A7III than the A6700 though.

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Feb 28, 2018 01:47:16   #
gwilliams6
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QW02xNZDmo&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=9WaEWmTKUlnDIk5T-6

Sony Artisans and Collective photogs talk about the new A7III.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn5FxCK2eFU

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Feb 28, 2018 01:53:49   #
Quantus5
 
btw: Sigma just announced 7 of their ART lenses for the Sony!! 14mm to 135mm primes. Native glass for the Sony Full Frame E-Mount. Sweet!!

I just remember all the Canon fans saying -- well we still have the glass... Well I have news for those folks -- Sony is moving fast. They completed their "Holy Trinity" line-up in native GM glass last year, and now have a lot of glass -- and lots of non-Sony affordable glass coming out, from Sigma, Rokinon, Zeiss, Tamron, Voigtländer, etc...

In a few months their 400mm Gold Master (GM) lens should be released for the Sony E-Mount. It was being tested at the Winter Olympics. The native glass reason for staying with Canon if you are an "indoor" sports photographer will be gone.

In the next two years, they should also have released fast 500mm and 600mm primes in GM models. So no more native glass advantage for "outdoor" sports photographers and wildlife shooters. Glass advantage for Canon will be gone by 2020. Yes, folks -- just two more years.

Yeah -- you'll still want to stay with Canon if you own a ton of glass --- but new photographers -- and those that do not have large investments in glass...

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Feb 28, 2018 02:01:56   #
Quantus5
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QW02xNZDmo&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=9WaEWmTKUlnDIk5T-6

Sony Artisans and Collective photogs talk about the new A7III.


Tons of info and initial hands-on videos on YouTube now. Just watched about 10 YouTube videos on the A7III today. For the $2K price point this camera has no equal.

And I don't think I even heard one negative thing about it -- everyone just praises how Sony has listened to the customer and satisfied almost every major shortcoming.

Ok -- actually I did hear one complaint that one reviewer made that they didn't use the better EVF that they used in the A7RIII and the A9. It's still a great EVF but not the one used in the A9/A7RIII.

This camera is going to take the world by storm! It is the perfect -- wedding and event photographer's camera, which is the largest professional photographer market segment. Sony is clearly going after the wedding/event photographers like gangbusters.

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Feb 28, 2018 02:10:10   #
Quantus5
 
CatMarley wrote:
I wish I needed a heavyweight machine. But the shooting I do does not justify it. The specs are pretty impressive.


You're probably using a Fuji or a Panasonic of an Olympus which are all great cameras. Everyone is a winner these days!

Just so you are aware the A7III is actually a pretty light camera, so heavier yes -- but heavyweight no. It clocks in at 650 grams. It's lighter than many APC-C cameras.

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Feb 28, 2018 03:57:18   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
rfmaude41 wrote:
Sounds just like a commercial, nothing more, eh ?


https://news.google.com/news/story/dmftOIbJx0kG3aMaPQp2_nsM7yL_M?hl=en&ned=us&gl=US

Gives 40 different articles, ok largely saying the same thing. There is an Adorama video up now too.

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Feb 28, 2018 04:20:52   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Your APS-C 24megapixel sensor is not the same as a full-frame 24 megapixel sensor. The full -frame sensor will have bigger pixels and will have more resolution, better dynamic range, better low light performance with less noise. Physics is Physics folks.

I have the A6500 APS-C with 24 megapixels, and will add this full-frame 24 megapixel A7III for even better image quality. especially in low light. Look at these videos by Jason Lanier. He had the A7III from Sony for three weeks before the announcement, and Jason has the first real-world testing videos here to show you, stills and video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Lz0_uxpDc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQhDnqoi9K8
Your APS-C 24megapixel sensor is not the same as a... (show quote)


Videos are quite impressive. Great low light IQ. But you kinda ignored my first two sentences, "24MP is kinda slim for a Full Frame these days. What with 36, 46, 56 MP FF out there." Of course FF sensors have larger pixels and more surface area. Are you saying the the Nikon D810A and D850 are noisy crap? Why couldn't Sony come up with a 36 MP low light Mirrorless? True the D810 is a general use FF. Not everyone shoots in the dark to begin with. Personally I don't really see needing more than 24MP for an APS-C due to diffraction limitations.

https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm

https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography-2.htm

Physics!

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Feb 28, 2018 09:24:30   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
JimH123 wrote:
In watching how Sony has raised the bar with the A7iii, it makes me wonder what the yet to be announced A6700 (or whatever they decide to call it) is going to be able to do? I suspect that they are going to raise the APS-C bar also. Thus I am guessing that just a small improvement over the A6500 is not in their plans.

And I also suspect that the not yet announced A7siii is going to be something also.


Yes, Sony is the King of model roll outs.

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Feb 28, 2018 09:59:44   #
JimH123 Loc: Morgan Hill, CA
 
Quantus5 wrote:
On the A6700, my guess is improved autofocus, improved dynamic range, improvements in video capabilities, and some ergonomic improvements over the A6500. The A6700 or whatever they decide to call it will probably come out later this year. There has even been talk about a A5300, but I doubt that, why not just come out with the A6700 and then lower the price on the A6300 and make the A6300 the low end model.

The A7sIII will probably be a lot like the A7III just a sensor with less megapixels, and incredible low light performance. This should also come out later this year.

Personally, I'd much rather have the A7III than the A6700 though.
On the A6700, my guess is improved autofocus, impr... (show quote)


Personally, I would rather have the A7III too. But it would leave me with a problem. I have the A6300, and all my e-mount lenses are for APS-C only. I have the Sony A99 full frame camera, and all the lenses I have for it are a-mount.

The new A7III could use the a-mount lenses with the LA-EA4 adapter, but the performance will not match what native e-mount lenses would be able to do.

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Feb 28, 2018 11:40:40   #
Desert Gecko Loc: desert southwest, USA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Bill De, there are still many pros shooting Nikon and Canon DSLRs for three reasons. First, the photographers and/or their media organizations have invested many 10s of thousands of dollars in Nikon and Canon gear, and they will take a real hit trading that all and switching. Second many pros are hesitant to go outside their comfort zone of many years and change to a new system. Thirdly some are waiting for the bigger long and fast prime lenses like the upcoming (spotted in testing at the winter Olympics) 400mm f2.8mm lens to be released. (BTW that will cost around $10,000)

The reality is that many top and award-winning pro shooters, including top pro sports shooters are making the switch to Sony Mirrorless cameras, and that group is getting larger every day. This new A7III release will hasten this for sure. I was one of those folks, a high-end pro Canon shooter for 40 years and I switched to Sony mirrorless in January 2017, and will never go back to any DSLR ever . Mirrorless sales are up, DSLR sales while still there, are going down. Cheers.
Bill De, there are still many pros shooting Nikon ... (show quote)



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Feb 28, 2018 11:57:32   #
HOT Texas Loc: From the Heart of Texas
 
Desert Gecko wrote:



I agree all 5 of them!!!!

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Feb 28, 2018 12:27:30   #
MikeMc
 
Looking at the side by side comparison, a7III vs a7RII (which I was considering and a Fuji XT-2) seems like the only significant difference is 24 vs 42mp. Correct?
What does the “R” mean as in a7RII?
Would the a7III be just as good for landscape, Street scenes, family photos?
BP has a a7III kit with a 24-70mm lens, 3.4 as I recall. Good lens? Adds about $200.

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Feb 28, 2018 12:57:00   #
Quantus5
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Videos are quite impressive. Great low light IQ. But you kinda ignored my first two sentences, "24MP is kinda slim for a Full Frame these days. What with 36, 46, 56 MP FF out there." Of course FF sensors have larger pixels and more surface area. Are you saying the the Nikon D810A and D850 are noisy crap? Why couldn't Sony come up with a 36 MP low light Mirrorless? True the D810 is a general use FF. Not everyone shoots in the dark to begin with. Personally I don't really see needing more than 24MP for an APS-C due to diffraction limitations.

https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography.htm

https://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/diffraction-photography-2.htm

Physics!
Videos are quite impressive. Great low light IQ. ... (show quote)


The reason for 24MP is because it is considered the primary mega pixel "standard" for Wedding/Event photography these days. The Sony A7III is aimed squarely at the professional wedding/event photographer market. Sony's answer to the Nikon D850 is the Sony ARIII which has a full frame 42.4MP sensor.

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Feb 28, 2018 13:02:58   #
Quantus5
 
JimH123 wrote:
Personally, I would rather have the A7III too. But it would leave me with a problem. I have the A6300, and all my e-mount lenses are for APS-C only. I have the Sony A99 full frame camera, and all the lenses I have for it are a-mount.

The new A7III could use the a-mount lenses with the LA-EA4 adapter, but the performance will not match what native e-mount lenses would be able to do.


I have an a6000 with only two inexpensive kit lenses, the 16-50mm and the 55-200mm kit zoom . So never made a big investment in Sony APS-C E-Mount lenses. If you only have a couple lenses the switch should be very easy, if not I completely understand your dilemma. In your favor, Sony should be releasing the a6700 (or whatever they decide to call it) sometime later this year.

I feel for you. The Sony A99 is an incredible camera, but Sony is not going to put much in A mount moving forward. :-(

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Feb 28, 2018 13:08:50   #
HOT Texas Loc: From the Heart of Texas
 
MikeMc wrote:
Looking at the side by side comparison, a7III vs a7RII (which I was considering and a Fuji XT-2) seems like the only significant difference is 24 vs 42mp. Correct?
What does the “R” mean as in a7RII?
Would the a7III be just as good for landscape, Street scenes, family photos?
BP has a a7III kit with a 24-70mm lens, 3.4 as I recall. Good lens? Adds about $200.


Mike I have the a7rII, the a7III is a faster camera and will track auto focus faster, ether one is a outstanding camera for landscape, Street scenes and family photos, and yes the only only significant difference is 24 vs 42mp.

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