Amazing.....you and the quotes.....why don't you quote where I believe that anybody will be overthrowing the government...please do not attribute things to me I never said. I just don't believe that anyone is going to try and overthrow the government...where did that come from. as your buddy says...I guess I take the high road...I choose not to insult and call names...now for your history..since you are still stuck in the 60's...why is it that no country has invaded us?..Tried to come to our soil? Pearl Harbor...thats it...never the mainland...why is that? Because there is a gun behind every blade of grass. It does intimidate other countries. Why is it you cannot answer one question I put froward? Just hurl insults and lies? Why do you confound things I have said and not deal with the truth. So to make things crystal clear...I do not believe anyone is going to try and overthorow the government...mute point, I do believe in more restrictions on weapons, I believe by the way you talk and your friend there backing you, that you want a war, for the government to put down those you disagree with...I never said you stated those things, that would be a lie, sort of like you lying about me believing that someone would be able to overthrow the government..but I feel you are implying those things because you refuse to answer a simple question..do you want the government to put down those that disagree with you?..Do you want a war? A civil war? Lack of compromise is what will lead to that..you have shown you have zero compromise..my wishing you luck was not sarcastic as in yeah right..good luck...in was honest...if it comes to that we are all going to need luck...let me know when you want me to come down to your level..I don't want to insult you by taking the high road

Amazing.....you and the quotes.....why don't you quote where I believe that anybody will be overthrowing the government...please do not attribute things to me I never said. I just don't believe that anyone is going to try and overthrow the government...where did that come from. as your buddy says...I guess I take the high road...I choose not to insult and call names...now for your history..since you are still stuck in the 60's...why is it that no country has invaded us?..Tried to come to our soil? Pearl Harbor...thats it...never the mainland...why is that? Because there is a gun behind every blade of grass. It does intimidate other countries. Why is it you cannot answer one question I put froward? Just hurl insults and lies? Why do you confound things I have said and not deal with the truth. So to make things crystal clear...I do not believe anyone is going to try and overthorow the government...mute point, I do believe in more restrictions on weapons, I believe by the way you talk and your friend there backing you, that you want a war, for the government to put down those you disagree with...I never said you stated those things, that would be a lie, sort of like you lying about me believing that someone would be able to overthrow the government..but I feel you are implying those things because you refuse to answer a simple question..do you want the government to put down those that disagree with you?..Do you want a war? A civil war? Lack of compromise is what will lead to that..you have shown you have zero compromise..my wishing you luck was not sarcastic as in yeah right..good luck...in was honest...if it comes to that we are all going to need luck...let me know when you want me to come down to your level..I don't want to insult you by taking the high road

Let me help you there a little bit. I don't call anything an "assault weapon."

The only rifle (I'm guessing you're talking about rifles) that I can remember using a clip is the M1 Garand with its enbloc clip of 8 rounds, that ejected from the rifle when it was empty.

But now we're getting somewhere. I think you are trying to conflate magazine fed semi-automatic rifles with "assault rifles," the one that have full automatic capability. Is that correct?

The gist of this thread is contained in the OP. Let's review it.

- Assault weapons kill
Yes they do. Since the dawn of time humans have used all sorts of objects to assault each other.

- Assault weapons are just that.

Just what? Weapons? or Assault?

- They are not hunting rifles.
I'm guessing here that we are talking about the semi-automatic magazine fed rifle the design of which dates back to the 19th century. I will reply that semi-automatic rifles are used in hunting game all the time and have been used for that for over a 100 years. However, the second amendment has nothing to do with hunting, so the fitness of a certain type of rifle to hunting is irrelevant. On the other hand there is a large number of competitions using these semi-automatic magazine fed rifles and they are used for target shooting, plinking and yes even self-defense. There are 10s of millions of these rifles and similar in private hands in the USA.

- No self-respecting sportsman would use an assault rifle to hunt..."
Wow, se how we jumped from Assault Weapon to Assault Rifle in that sentence? Why is that?
The statement is probably correct as an assault RIFLE is capable of fully automatic firing, whereas the assault weapon you talked about is not. I do not know all the game laws of the various states, but I am fairly confident that each and every state prohibits hunting with a fully automatic assault rifle, if you could even get your hands on one as they are rare, very expensive and highly controlled. I seriously doubt that an assault rifle owner would risk it and his freedom by taking it hunting.

- Assault weapon were designed for the military to kill...
Using your definition, that statement is incorrect. The semi-automatic rifle predates its use by the military by several decades. The round what is commonly used by the assault rifles, the 5.56 NATO comes from the civilian round .222 Remington Magnum and latter supplanted that one in civilian guise as the .223 Remington. The reason the military went to a 22 caliber bullet from a 30 caliber bullet was manifold; the soldier could carry more ammo, didn't have the recoil of the 30 caliber and it wasn't nearly as devastating as the 7.62X51 that it replaced. (Yes, the choice of this round by the military has been a controversial subject since it came out 60 years ago.)

- Imposing restrictions on assault weapons is not more a limit on ...
The difference between a semi-automatic magazine fed rifle and a "surface-to-air "missle" (what's a missle?) or land mines or hand grenades is that the former is a commonly used rifle covered under the second amendment and the others are weapons of mass destruction or explosives.

The Clinton-era AWB proved that the magazine capacity restrictions had no effect. If it had, 0bama could have brought it back and pushed it through when he had the majority in both houses of Congress and even a filibuster proof senate. You would need to outlaw pockets and bags if you really wanted to make a point. When you're in a game preserve, reloading a rifle does not take very long and makes no difference.

Would someone be so kind as to explain to me what an "assault weapon" is?

I'm fairly knowledgeable about firearms, (unlike most of you here,) and I know what an assault RIFLE is. I also know new ones are not available for sale in the USA since 1986 and whatever existed before that date are very expensive and highly controlled.

But I haven't the foggiest what an assault weapon is. I would think that would be something you use to assault somebody. A rock, a stick, a knife, a car, a truck, etc.

Take your time, I'll wait.