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Feb 4, 2018 10:13:19   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Grace98 wrote:
I recently returned from a 2-week holiday of a lifetime. I took about 5000 pictures, although, sifting through them, am already down to 4220. I was determined to take the perfect pics and put my camera straight on Aperture priority. On the first morning tour, there I was fiddling with aperture, exposure etc and didn't have a clue what the guide was talking about as was so engrossed with the camera. I even had to run to catch up with the group. After a couple of hours, I realised I was missing out on all the beautiful scenery and the history of the place so I suddenly said "sod it" and put my camera on Programme mode with ISO100. Because in the first week I was in the desert, my lens had trouble autofocusing sometimes so I put it on Auto and was fine. Have some good photos (and many bad ones) but as "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", I'm happy with them and have a lovely record of the places visited. I'm also saving up to buy a bridge camera (probably the P900 as I don't shoot Raw). There were a couple of people on the tour with this Camera and were taking really good pictures and they didn't have 3 kgs hanging round their neck (I'm only 5'2" and with a backpack on my back as well, it was very tiring walking in the dry heat). Also you miss out a lot when you spend your time behind a viewfinder. I think I will leave playing with camera modes when I'm out for the day solely to take photos. Am I wrong in this thinking?
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Good thought process.
I use P most of the time unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise and I make that determination upon observing the scene to be photographed. On the Canon you just spin the wheel then to adjust the aperture or shutter as desired for the decision. Still in P and quick and easy.

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Feb 4, 2018 11:01:08   #
RolandDieter
 
When it comes to gear to take and settings to use I believe strongly in the KISS principle (Keep It Simple, Stupid). Simplicity to me is a high-quality bridge camera with a 1" sensor (not changing lenses is part of KISS). When shooting I usually use Auto, sometimes Aperture Priority (using just one or two settings is part of KISS). However, to give me more control I use cameras where exposure compensation, when needed, is on a dial or a lens ring rather than in the menu (ready access to compensation also being part of KISS). As Grace98 said above, when fiddling with things like lenses and settings you can easily miss more than you get.

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Feb 4, 2018 11:21:58   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
Actually Walt, all the tours I went on during this trip were either semi-private (max 8 people) or private (just me and my friend) so there was no rushing. However, I didn't expect them to wait for me whilst I fiddle with the camera. They involved long walking and there was so much to see and absorb that I just pointed and shot the scene. I'm still going through my pictures. OK they aren't going to win me any competitions but have got some decent shots. (sometimes zoomed)
Whuff wrote:
That’s the thing I dislike about group tours - everything is os rushed that there’s just no time to enjoy the scenery, take decent photos and enjoy. Nope, it’s come this way, look quick, back on the bus, rush to the next spot, off the bus, look quick, back on the bus, etc. My wife loves them though, and I love her, so I put up with it.

Walt

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Feb 4, 2018 11:23:33   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
BebuLamar wrote:
My wife is the same and she drags me along (I much rather stay home) just for the purpose of taking pictures for her. So while not getting paid I think I am a pro on those trips.



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Feb 4, 2018 11:28:21   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
LFingar, it is also a question of weight. After walking all day in temperatures of 35 degrees with 3 kilos hanging around your neck and a kg backpack on your back, I felt like the hunchback of Notre Dame by end of day. I was taking scenery pics both with my DSLR and my mobile. To be honest the mobile pics are much better and sharper. Also what I found in the glaring sunlight (and no shade), I could hardly see the screen...
LFingar wrote:
Until you get more accustomed to your camera Program mode works just fine quite often. About 6 years ago I put my bridge camera on the shelf and bought my first DSLR. We then left for a vacation in Bora Bora shortly thereafter. I used Program mode for almost all my shots and I got some great shots. More a testament to the photographic qualities of the place then to my skill as a photographer, I can assure you. Now, I use Manual or Aperture modes and have enough experience to shoot without a lot of searching for the proper settings. In short, familiarity with your camera counts for a lot in your ability to shoot and still be able to experience your surroundings. There is also a lot to be said for bridge cameras. Lighter, no need to carry extra lenses, and so forth. They have some limitations compared to a DSLR, but for vacation shooting I think they are the way to go.
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Feb 4, 2018 11:30:42   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
Clever friend. I should start quoting her. I always say I'm only 5'2" as if it was a crime!!!!!!!
jerryc41 wrote:
Excellent observations!

I have a friend who is 5' 2" (and yes, "eyes of blue" ). Just the other day she said, "I'm not short. I'm 5' 2". That's my height."

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Feb 4, 2018 11:33:24   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
Bebu, perhaps wives are obliging but friends aren't and don't have a husband. From all my friends, the only one I have who is interested in photography is the one who came with me. And my other friends only take a handful of pics with their mobile....
BebuLamar wrote:
That is why I recommend the OP to find a companion that can take pictures for her. My wife did just that. She enjoys the trip and had me doing all the pictures. I had to work under her directions and yet having to figure out how to do it myself. For example, take a picture of me half length and include that building in the background. Then I do it.



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Feb 4, 2018 11:34:10   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
Oops meant husbands are obliging!!
Grace98 wrote:
Bebu, perhaps wives are obliging but friends aren't and don't have a husband. From all my friends, the only one I have who is interested in photography is the one who came with me. And my other friends only take a handful of pics with their mobile....

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Feb 4, 2018 11:35:16   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
RolandDieter wrote:
When it comes to gear to take and settings to use I believe strongly in the KISS principle (Keep It Simple, Stupid). Simplicity to me is a high-quality bridge camera with a 1" sensor (not changing lenses is part of KISS). When shooting I usually use Auto, sometimes Aperture Priority (using just one or two settings is part of KISS). However, to give me more control I use cameras where exposure compensation, when needed, is on a dial or a lens ring rather than in the menu (ready access to compensation also being part of KISS). As Grace98 said above, when fiddling with things like lenses and settings you can easily miss more than you get.
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Feb 4, 2018 12:10:14   #
Rick Fox
 
I'm sure the purists will froth at the mouth, but there is NOTHING wrong with using an automatic setting! The folks at Canon, Nikon, etc. have spent millions of dollars creating the algorithms for P or A. Specialty settings are to be used for specific needs at specific times. Anyone who thinks they can out think a computer all the time is delusional. That being said: If you are a serious photographer, it IS worth the weight around your neck to have a camera that will give you all the options.

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Feb 4, 2018 13:31:51   #
barbie.lewis Loc: Livingston, Texas
 
Grace98 wrote:
Bebu, perhaps wives are obliging but friends aren't and don't have a husband.


I sometimes get "You should have a husband to do that for you" as I set up camp.

But one of my role models is a lady named Mary Kingsley. She was a Victorian age exploreress. While the men were going on expeditions with a thousand native bearers and portable bathtubs, Mary explored West Africa alone, travelling with just her backpack.

One day a British administrator would not issue her a travel permit because it would be too dangerous for her to travel in that region "without a husband."

Mary drew herself up to her full height (I think she was about 5"1'), looked him straight in the eye and said, "Sir, I am thoroughly acquainted with all the travel recommendations of The Royal Geographic Society and quite aware of their list of what to bring, and not one of those listed items is a husband!"

She got her permit.

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Feb 4, 2018 13:45:17   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
Grace98 wrote:
I recently returned from a 2-week holiday of a lifetime. I took about 5000 pictures, although, sifting through them, am already down to 4220. I was determined to take the perfect pics and put my camera straight on Aperture priority. On the first morning tour, there I was fiddling with aperture, exposure etc and didn't have a clue what the guide was talking about as was so engrossed with the camera. I even had to run to catch up with the group. After a couple of hours, I realised I was missing out on all the beautiful scenery and the history of the place so I suddenly said "sod it" and put my camera on Programme mode with ISO100. Because in the first week I was in the desert, my lens had trouble autofocusing sometimes so I put it on Auto and was fine. Have some good photos (and many bad ones) but as "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", I'm happy with them and have a lovely record of the places visited. I'm also saving up to buy a bridge camera (probably the P900 as I don't shoot Raw). There were a couple of people on the tour with this Camera and were taking really good pictures and they didn't have 3 kgs hanging round their neck (I'm only 5'2" and with a backpack on my back as well, it was very tiring walking in the dry heat). Also you miss out a lot when you spend your time behind a viewfinder. I think I will leave playing with camera modes when I'm out for the day solely to take photos. Am I wrong in this thinking?
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You go girl...
Get the picture, with out wasting time when time is valuable.
If I have the time then and only then do I go to another mode.
I'm going to get a lot of feed back because of this, but what comes out a little off, you can maybe adjust when home.

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Feb 5, 2018 04:16:16   #
wesm Loc: Los Altos CA
 
Grace98 wrote:
Bebu I was with a female friend who's also into photography. She persevered more than me with aperture/shutter priority/bracketing/exposure compensation....and her photos weren't any better than mine. In the end, she too gave up and went to Programme and Auto. I was in San Pedro De Atacama (North Chile) and Easter Island. Places which have been on my bucket list for many years and I know will never go again so wanted to soak up all the scenery and history. When I sort all my pics, might put some on the Photo Section of this site if I think they're decent....
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Oh, my. Did you get any good night shots in Atacama?

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Feb 5, 2018 05:45:06   #
BebuLamar
 
Actually I would strongly recommend beginners to learn with manual mode. However, that is for when you're learning and having lots of time to make the pictures. When you are really have to get the pictures quick you should do whatever that give you the result the fastest. The vacation isn't when you practice or learn. It's when you apply what you learned.

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Feb 5, 2018 14:34:41   #
Grace98 Loc: Waterlooville, Hampshire - United Kingdom
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Good thought process.
I use P most of the time unless there is a specific reason to do otherwise and I make that determination upon observing the scene to be photographed. On the Canon you just spin the wheel then to adjust the aperture or shutter as desired for the decision. Still in P and quick and easy.



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