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f8 and be there? ... or f2 and be there? ... or - why not f1.4 and be there? ... or, why not f1.2, even?
Jan 28, 2018 03:28:14 #
It's been said max DOF, in all cases. It's also been said - the best pictures are had with the fastest lenses, stopped open, all the way, so, exactly what is one to believe?
Jan 28, 2018 04:08:30 #
Jan 28, 2018 04:26:37 #
JPringle wrote:
Believe what you want, but try everything first maybe?
Oh, I have, J ... in fact, I have one lens, in each category ....
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Jan 28, 2018 04:29:31 #
Chris T wrote:
Oh, I have, J ... in fact, I have one lens, in each category ....
Well, then you tell us the answer
Jan 28, 2018 04:30:36 #
[quote=Chris T]It's been said max DOF, in all cases. It's also been said - the best pictures are had with the fastest lenses, stopped open, all the way, so, exactly what is one to believe?[/quote
Yeah, believe what you want, but do what works for you. WeeGee did not change his settings offer. He was almost always able to choose his distance and composition. He was a nighttime reporter and didn't have to play around with shutter speeds, f/stops or focusing. He concentrated on moving and changing holders. He found that f/8 gave him the best combination of light and depth of field. By the way, the "and be there" was a sarcastic response to a reporter who got in his was. In addition to everything else, WeeGee knew the cops, drank at their favorite watering holes, attended their family funerals, etc. He got away with a lot of stuff that caused other photographers to get irate.
Yeah, believe what you want, but do what works for you. WeeGee did not change his settings offer. He was almost always able to choose his distance and composition. He was a nighttime reporter and didn't have to play around with shutter speeds, f/stops or focusing. He concentrated on moving and changing holders. He found that f/8 gave him the best combination of light and depth of field. By the way, the "and be there" was a sarcastic response to a reporter who got in his was. In addition to everything else, WeeGee knew the cops, drank at their favorite watering holes, attended their family funerals, etc. He got away with a lot of stuff that caused other photographers to get irate.
Jan 28, 2018 04:50:37 #
JPL wrote:
Well, then you tell us the answer
It's pretty straight-forward, JPL ... when you need the speed, shoot wide open ... if you don't, stop down ...
But if you close in to where you need be, to get a good composition, then, with that - you either have to open up, or add in flash ....
So, the answer is - there's NO - ONE - answer ....
But, when it all comes down to it ... f8 - is a pretty good place to be ....
They should name a Photo-journalists' coffee shop - that ... I'm sure they'd get a roaring business ....
Jan 28, 2018 04:52:35 #
[quote=BHC][quote=Chris T]It's been said max DOF, in all cases. It's also been said - the best pictures are had with the fastest lenses, stopped open, all the way, so, exactly what is one to believe?[/quote
Yeah, believe what you want, but do what works for you. WeeGee did not change his settings offer. He was almost always able to choose his distance and composition. He was a nighttime reporter and didn't have to play around with shutter speeds, f/stops or focusing. He concentrated on moving and changing holders. He found that f/8 gave him the best combination of light and depth of field. By the way, the "and be there" was a sarcastic response to a reporter who got in his was. In addition to everything else, WeeGee knew the cops, drank at their favorite watering holes, attended their family funerals, etc. He got away with a lot of stuff that caused other photographers to get irate.[/quote]
I'll bet he did, Bill ....
Yeah, believe what you want, but do what works for you. WeeGee did not change his settings offer. He was almost always able to choose his distance and composition. He was a nighttime reporter and didn't have to play around with shutter speeds, f/stops or focusing. He concentrated on moving and changing holders. He found that f/8 gave him the best combination of light and depth of field. By the way, the "and be there" was a sarcastic response to a reporter who got in his was. In addition to everything else, WeeGee knew the cops, drank at their favorite watering holes, attended their family funerals, etc. He got away with a lot of stuff that caused other photographers to get irate.[/quote]
I'll bet he did, Bill ....
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Jan 28, 2018 12:01:44 #
Chris T wrote:
It's been said max DOF, in all cases. It's also been said - the best pictures are had with the fastest lenses, stopped open, all the way, so, exactly what is one to believe?
I disagree - use the aperture you want to achieve the image you want - light levels permitting.
Do you want to isolate the subject then a fast (wide) aperture may help.
If you want a lot more DOF the use a smaller aperture.
For me as a general purpose aperture f8-f11 is fine.
All of the above is lens dependant.
Jan 28, 2018 12:13:02 #
RichardTaylor wrote:
I disagree - use the aperture you want to achieve the image you want - light levels permitting.
Do you want to isolate the subject then a fast (wide) aperture may help.
If you want a lot more DOF the use a smaller aperture.
For me as a general purpose aperture f8-f11 is fine.
All of the above is lens dependant.
Do you want to isolate the subject then a fast (wide) aperture may help.
If you want a lot more DOF the use a smaller aperture.
For me as a general purpose aperture f8-f11 is fine.
All of the above is lens dependant.
And lens dependency seems to rely pretty heavily on the mid-range f5.6 - f8 - f-11 - for optimum results, Richard ...
But, Auto Modes always seem to seek something higher ....
Which misses the boat when you want shallow DOF ... so - a f1.2 lens would only really help, if you use it on Manual ... (when the extra light is needed) ....
Jan 28, 2018 12:39:04 #
Chris T wrote:
And lens dependency seems to rely pretty heavily on the mid-range f5.6 - f8 - f-11 - for optimum results, Richard ...
But, Auto Modes always seem to seek something higher ....
Which misses the boat when you want shallow DOF ... so - a f1.2 lens would only really help, if you use it on Manual ... (when the extra light is needed) ....
But, Auto Modes always seem to seek something higher ....
Which misses the boat when you want shallow DOF ... so - a f1.2 lens would only really help, if you use it on Manual ... (when the extra light is needed) ....
Some lenses do not stop down to f11, f8 is the minimum aperture on one of my camera.
My auto modes, specifically aperture priority, gives me the aperture I want. No need to use manual exposure unless the lighting conditions are fooling the in-camera exposure meter and exposure compensation is not enough to obtain correct exposure. I do not shoot at ISO 12800 in reasonable light levels
I don't own a f1.2 lens however I do own a f1.4 lens and a f1.8 and a couple of f2 lenses.
You don't neeed a f1.2 lens for shallow dof - see example #2
Jan 28, 2018 12:48:36 #
RichardTaylor wrote:
Some lenses do not stop down to f11, f8 is the min... (show quote)
Not many can afford that EF 50 f1.2L, Richard ... OR justify it ....
Your missus seems very happy in that one, Richard ... just f1.4, eh?
That bird is cool .... member of the parrot/parakeet family, I presume ....
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Jan 28, 2018 13:00:30 #
Chris T wrote:
Not many can afford that EF 50 f1.2L, Richard ... OR justify it ....
Your missus seems very happy in that one, Richard ... just f1.4, eh?
That bird is cool .... member of the parrot/parakeet family, I presume ....
Your missus seems very happy in that one, Richard ... just f1.4, eh?
That bird is cool .... member of the parrot/parakeet family, I presume ....
That's a rainbow lorikeet (a member of the parrot family) and was photographed in our back yard.
Very common around here - depending on the season.
Jan 28, 2018 13:12:42 #
RichardTaylor wrote:
That's a rainbow lorikeet (a member of the parrot family) and was photographed in our back yard.
Very common around here - depending on the season.
Very common around here - depending on the season.
Richard ... you are very lucky to live in a place where there are all these pretty birds just passing by ....
Jan 28, 2018 13:18:40 #
It has yet to be mentioned that Weegee used a press camera. Most of the lenses used with press cameras have a max aperture of f/4.7. They were usually 127mm, 135mm or 152mm lenses. Focus is achieved either by a rangefinder or distance scales. An aperture of f/8 would guarantee that most of the scene or the important parts are in focus. There is a fair amount of difference between f/8 on a 35mm camera and f/8 on a 4x5 camera
Jan 28, 2018 13:18:46 #
Chris T wrote:
Richard ... you are very lucky to live in a place where there are all these pretty birds just passing by ....
We had never seen these guys before we travelled overseas.
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