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Jan 25, 2018 15:51:58   #
Vince68 Loc: Wappingers Falls, NY
 
canon Lee wrote:
Take me for an example.... Ive been shooting professionally, ( I have clients that pay me. Its my PROfession), for a very long time, that being said, I don't know it all, and run across situations that are new to me and it forces me to update my understanding of photography. There are those here that seem to know everything, and yet from their comments its apparent that there is yet more room for learning.


I learn new stuff all the time, or at least I try to. I certainly don't know everything. Its one of the reasons I joined UHH, and subscribe to a number of other websites and receive free training videos, tutorial and tips on an almost daily basis.

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Jan 25, 2018 15:57:16   #
nauticalmike
 
It is impossible to know it all because even if you did manage to learn everything yesterday there is something new today that will be a secret until tomorrow.In this digital age you can do things that were impossible with film and with each new camera or lens or photo manipulating software there is something new to know...I'll bet that even some of the best on here do not know how to use even half of the many features in photoshop including all of the plugins that are available.

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Jan 25, 2018 16:17:56   #
brucebc Loc: Tooele, Utah
 
My Grandpa had a saying about people that claimed to know everything about anything, "Educated Idiot."

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Jan 25, 2018 17:20:43   #
canon Lee
 
brucebc wrote:
My Grandpa had a saying about people that claimed to know everything about anything, "Educated Idiot."



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Jan 25, 2018 17:51:39   #
Bootneck Loc: Perth Western Australia
 
I think this thread shows some people think they know more than others maybe because they are professionals.

As quoted

"There are those here that seem to know everything, and yet from their comments its apparent that there is yet more room for learning and the labelling of some fellow Hoggers as know-it-alls".

My observations are that such wide statements are to put it mildly, rude. The general advice freely given is advice as the contributer believes. If it may be incorrect, I have noticed many times that the wrong advice is corrected. If response and advice were only given by qualified professionals (what necessarily does a professional photographer photo, Real Estate), we snapshotters may as well give photography away

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Jan 25, 2018 18:04:12   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
I know everything about photography. I am enclosing this photo as evidence of my mastery of the craft.



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Jan 25, 2018 18:19:06   #
timcc Loc: Virginia
 
boberic wrote:
I know everything about photography. I am enclosing this photo as evidence of my mastery of the craft.


Looks perfect to me. I think you've successfully drained the photography swamp!

Time to move on to a new hobby??

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Jan 25, 2018 18:19:20   #
Blenheim Orange Loc: Michigan
 
boberic wrote:
I know everything about photography. I am enclosing this photo as evidence of my mastery of the craft.


You need to check "store original" if you expect to get any meaningful criticism around here, bub. I would crop it in a little from the right hand edge, and that bright spot in the lower left is pretty distracting. The subject seems to be well within the circle of confusion, but I don't think she is able to focus very well anymore. Of course, you may be out of your depth in this field, and you might be taking too many histograms for those allergies, which can cause tremors and motion blur. Boost your ISO and up the meds on the subject would be my advice.




Mike

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Jan 25, 2018 18:32:11   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
canon Lee wrote:
Take me for an example.... Ive been shooting professionally, ( I have clients that pay me. Its my PROfession), for a very long time, that being said, I don't know it all, and run across situations that are new to me and it forces me to update my understanding of photography. There are those here that seem to know everything, and yet from their comments its apparent that there is yet more room for learning.


I describe it as would-be "experts" trying to prove they are more expert than all the other would-be "experts."
At the risk of stating the obvious, there is (happily) always more to learn for all of us. >Alan

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Jan 25, 2018 19:13:22   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
Bootneck wrote:
I think this thread shows some people think they know more than others maybe because they are professionals...

I do respect any pro, especially free-lancers who are thriving or even surviving on his own merits and hard work. I respect those whose market is shrinking due to the flood of automatic cameras and what seems to be a lower bar for what constitutes acceptable work in those markets. What really impresses me, and will never get stale, is the aspect of photography that indicates tremendous effort to be present in dangerous or hard-to-reach places and also possess the skill to be ready when moving scenes take place. That aspect of photography is rarely discussed here but occasionally we are glad when we see it.

How much someone knows matters to me when they are willing to teach. How skilled they are matters to me when I get to see their work. It's great when they offer both. I respect Ansel Adams as much for his teaching as for his great eye. (And to think, I found my copy of The Zone System in a fortune cookie!) That's why I like this site. Some members are excellent at explaining and have much to offer from experience. Others share photos that provide inspiration to learn and practice just from seeing their work. It's all good. Not addressing Bootneck or anyone in particular, I suggest refraining from the temptation to look down on others because they happen to be better teachers than practitioners. There might even be some working pros out there who owe their careers in part to a fine teacher who was maybe not so good in the field.

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Jan 25, 2018 19:13:39   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
I have met several very knowledgeable photographers. Some of them forgot more about photography than I know. I am a "know it all concerning photography", not by a very looooooong shot.

Don

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Jan 25, 2018 20:01:03   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
Ill very soon be 88. Im still learning every day. The truth is you don't know a lot more than you do know.

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Jan 25, 2018 20:16:35   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Still plenty to learn,
It's good to take a chance to be wrong.
It's a great way to learn :)

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Jan 25, 2018 20:50:02   #
carl hervol Loc: jacksonville florida
 
same here!

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Jan 25, 2018 21:49:52   #
gener202002
 
Retina wrote:
I do respect any pro, especially free-lancers who are thriving or even surviving on his own merits and hard work. I respect those whose market is shrinking due to the flood of automatic cameras and what seems to be a lower bar for what constitutes acceptable work in those markets. What really impresses me, and will never get stale, is the aspect of photography that indicates tremendous effort to be present in dangerous or hard-to-reach places and also possess the skill to be ready when moving scenes take place. That aspect of photography is rarely discussed here but occasionally we are glad when we see it.

How much someone knows matters to me when they are willing to teach. How skilled they are matters to me when I get to see their work. It's great when they offer both. I respect Ansel Adams as much for his teaching as for his great eye. (And to think, I found my copy of The Zone System in a fortune cookie!) That's why I like this site. Some members are excellent at explaining and have much to offer from experience. Others share photos that provide inspiration to learn and practice just from seeing their work. It's all good. Not addressing Bootneck or anyone in particular, I suggest refraining from the temptation to look down on others because they happen to be better teachers than practitioners. There might even be some working pros out there who owe their careers in part to a fine teacher who was maybe not so good in the field.
I do respect any pro, especially free-lancers who ... (show quote)



Yeap.

I like to think there are two very important aspects to being a great photography, some have one, some have the other, a few have both.

But the first is having a great eye for a great picture, and the other is having the technical knowledge to make a great picture out of an average picture. Put the two together and you have a great photographer and great photography. I would say I have more of the first than the latter, but I could improve in both aspects by quite a bit. Great photographers have a great eye for that which is not obvious, and yet in a way is. They see something everyone else sees but in a different way. I tear my hair out trying to think of an angle or a type of picture no one has thought of before. But when I do think of something I find some one else has already done that and done a very good job of it.

Dreamstime.com as I understand it has over 70,000,000 pictures out there for sale. How do you compete with that? Well, some people do find ways to sell their pictures because they have something great. Some idea that makes their pictures stand out. I think the best photographers have both the imagination to conceive of a beautiful picture, and the technical knowledge to make it come alive. Oh, to be more like that!

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