What should be my first 4/3 Mirrorless Camera
Jan 24, 2018 17:22:17 #
For either one you may want to consider an after market grip. The em10iii grip wise is better than the 10ii. Keep in mind these cameras are small...smaller than most people realize.
Jan 24, 2018 19:57:54 #
davyboy
Loc: Anoka Mn.
THe G85 is cheaper than gx8 and has the low pass filter removed for better image quality. The front is made from magnesium.
Jan 24, 2018 21:15:01 #
Cdouthitt wrote:
For either one you may want to consider an after market grip. The em10iii grip wise is better than the 10ii. Keep in mind these cameras are small...smaller than most people realize.
...and so cuddly!
Jan 25, 2018 03:42:08 #
wdross
Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
Big-Koi wrote:
I am thinking about what should be my first 4/3 mi... (show quote)
Olympus camera's present approximate cost:
E-M10 mrII - $500
E-M10 mrIII - $550
E-M5 mrII - $850
PEN-F - $1200
E-M1 mrII - $1850
Panasonic camera's present approximate cost:
GH4 - $1000
G9 - $1700
GH5 - $2000
Based off you budgeted $1200, the better options for you would be the E-M5 mrII, the GH4, and the PEN-F, not the E-M10 mrII or E-M10 mrIII. And if if you can spare $500 or $650 more, both the brand new G9 and E-M1 mrII are within reach (there is no suggestion that you should go beyond your budget, just what you could get with more money). My choice would be for the E-M5 mrII even though the PEN-F has a 20mp sensor.
Jan 25, 2018 05:49:53 #
I have an Olympus EM10 and a Panasonic G3, they are both very good cameras and produce high-quality images. Their lenses are compatible so the range is comprehensive, I prefer my Olympus slightly but that is because I have got used to it.
So I suggest you compare these M43 cameras with other mirrorless models, you can't really go wrong with any model.
So I suggest you compare these M43 cameras with other mirrorless models, you can't really go wrong with any model.
Jan 25, 2018 05:55:21 #
Jan 25, 2018 06:23:29 #
scokie
Loc: Edmond, Oklahoma
I recently had the same dilemma. I decided that weather was not a concern so I didn't need weather sealing. I wanted compactness (kind of my reason for 4/3) so I was debating the em-10ii vs gx85. I went with the Olympus and love it.
The price from B&H with 2 lenses 12-42 and 40-150 was same as Panasonic with single 12-42 lense.
Since I am not somewhere that I could actually handle both I had to roll the dice with that and I tend to be comfortable with both SLR and Rangefinder format.
Some have said the menus can be cumbersome, but I have found them easier than Sony ( not as easy as Fuji).
When I am in front of computer I'll try and upload a picture.
I primarily shoot street type photos and mostly rely on straight out of camera jpeg. Also I usually shoot various old film cameras from a trip 35 to SLR so I do not make a ton of adjustments other than aperture and shutter speed.
Mike
The price from B&H with 2 lenses 12-42 and 40-150 was same as Panasonic with single 12-42 lense.
Since I am not somewhere that I could actually handle both I had to roll the dice with that and I tend to be comfortable with both SLR and Rangefinder format.
Some have said the menus can be cumbersome, but I have found them easier than Sony ( not as easy as Fuji).
When I am in front of computer I'll try and upload a picture.
I primarily shoot street type photos and mostly rely on straight out of camera jpeg. Also I usually shoot various old film cameras from a trip 35 to SLR so I do not make a ton of adjustments other than aperture and shutter speed.
Mike
Jan 25, 2018 07:01:06 #
Jeffcs
Loc: Myrtle Beach South Carolina
I love my PenF it has some nice effects built in it’s my “walk-around” but for more serious shooting I take my OMDem1mk2
Jan 25, 2018 08:59:19 #
The best mirrorless camera in its price class. Look at the Omar Gonzales YouTube tutorials. And this review: https://www.cameralabs.com/fujifilm-xt20-review/
Jan 25, 2018 09:00:11 #
Jan 25, 2018 09:07:59 #
aphelps
Loc: Central Ohio
Given your budget figure, you might also consider a factory referb em-1. Great camera. With latest firmware will even do in-camera focus stacking among other things. Olympus has them available from time to time.
Jan 25, 2018 09:14:02 #
If weight and size are the primary issues for you, look at the Panny GX8 and GX85. But handle these as well as others in the store before you buy. Myself, I went with the Panny GX bodies (have GX7 and GX8) for travel convenience.
Jan 25, 2018 09:17:12 #
aphelps wrote:
Given your budget figure, you might also consider a factory referb em-1. Great camera. With latest firmware will even do in-camera focus stacking among other things. Olympus has them available from time to time.
yup you can find them for less than 500 now. It's still a great camera.
Jan 25, 2018 10:23:56 #
Big-Koi wrote:
I am thinking about what should be my first 4/3 mi... (show quote)
Between those two, I'd probably pick the E-M10 Mark II. The Pen-F has had focus issues.
HOWEVER, I'd rather have a Panasonic G85. That camera is extremely well-rounded, with Dual IS II, no anti-aliasing filter over the sensor, easy-to-use menus and physical controls, and more.
https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-g85-g80 <— DPReview gave the G85 their Gold Award. The Pen F and the E-M10 Mark II each got a Silver. (The newer E-M10 Mark III got a silver as well.)
You might want to search through this list and find a lens or two to go on your new body:
http://hazeghi.org/mft-lenses.html
Jan 25, 2018 10:38:47 #
wdross wrote:
Olympus camera's present approximate cost: br E-M1... (show quote)
The GH4 was my pick... I've had one for quite a while. It has stood me well as both a stills camera and a video camera. Actually, I got it for that BALANCE of pro video and high-end stills quality. I will replace it with a GH5 or the (as yet unannounced, probably coming for the 2020 Olympics) GH6.
The Lumix GX8 competes directly with the Pen F, as both have a similar form factor and 20MP sensors. The Pen F looks cooler, the GX8 performs a little better (AF Speed).
The Lumix G85 is a better buy with kit lens than the OM-D E-M5 Mark II.
All that said, this is a good list, and all these cameras are worth considering. When it comes down to spending your money, I'd simply recommend you try the two or three you will consider buying. While Oly and Panny share the same lens mount, and both make some fantastic lenses, their cameras have very different ergonomics, menus, grips, button placements... Feel in hand is important, as is the ability to adjust the camera quickly when using it.
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