Shutter count (Page 3): If you do a Google Search for "Shutter Count Nikon", you will get a variety of sources of information to fit your circumstances. If you use a "Mac" computer...

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rayclay wrote:

Except for this site I would have never know of "shutter count". I have a D5600 Nikon and I have looked at every feature on it, took shots and looked at any place showing it, I have two books on D5600 one by Busch and one for Dummies, neither mentions a shutter count nor how to achieve it. Is it available on Nikon D5600? and If so how to access it?

If you do a Google Search for "Shutter Count Nikon", you will get a variety of sources of information to fit your circumstances.

If you use a "Mac" computer, the process is very easy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hct9KbYvu04

Hope this helps.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

rayclay wrote:

Except for this site I would have never know of "shutter count". I have a D5600 Nikon and I have looked at every feature on it, took shots and looked at any place showing it, I have two books on D5600 one by Busch and one for Dummies, neither mentions a shutter count nor how to achieve it. Is it available on Nikon D5600? and If so how to access it?

I see we're up to three pages, so you already have good answers. I'll add a bunch more. Different resources supply different information with varying degrees of ease.

http://www.camerashuttercount.com/
http://kentweakley.com/blog/photo-tip-photos-camera/
http://regex.info/exif.cgi
Get Irfanview (free) and also get the plug-ins for it. Start the program, open a photo, click on Image > Information > Exif info. Or you can just press I and/or E to get lots of info.
Get ExifInfo - also free. Unzip and get the icon onto the Desktop. Find a photo and drag it onto the icon. A window will open with loads of info. Look down the list for Shutter Count (or whatever they call it).
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com
http://drchung.new21.net/previewextractor/
http://www.astrojargon.net/EOSInfo.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1
http://www.nikonshuttercount.com/
http://myshuttercount.com/
http://www.picmeta.com/products/picture-information-extractor.htm

tshift Loc: Overland Park, KS.

swartfort wrote:

The fastest and easiest way to get this is to put the camera on a jpeg setting, take a picture and look at the information on the picture when you look at it on the back viewfinder. It will look like this 3234/3234
That mean it is the 3234th picture of the 3234 shutter releases on that body.... hope that helps

Not sure what information you are talking about, what camera? Are you sure you are not talking about pixel size?

Tom

Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY

rayclay wrote:

None of that works, I take a pic, it reads 1/1, I take another one and it reads 2/2?????

That is because 103/532 means the 103rd picture of 532 stored on the currently active memory card. It does mean the shutter count is at least 532. Not a particularly useful observation.

Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.

swartfort wrote:

The fastest and easiest way to get this is to put the camera on a jpeg setting, take a picture and look at the information on the picture when you look at it on the back viewfinder. It will look like this 3234/3234
That mean it is the 3234th picture of the 3234 shutter releases on that body.... hope that helps

Wrong, what is displayed is not shutter count, but a counter of total pictures on the card and what picture you are looking at of that group.

The counter there has NOTHING to do with shutter count at all.

On a NIKON camera every image has the actual shutter count embedded within the EXIF info the camera writes into every image it takes, on most Canon cameras you will need an app to read the shutter count.

mas24 Loc: Southern CA

Wow. That was some back and forth debating. Hopefully, the OP knows now, how to get the shutter count on his Nikon D5600.

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

rayclay wrote:

Except for this site I would have never know of "shutter count". I have a D5600 Nikon and I have looked at every feature on it, took shots and looked at any place showing it, I have two books on D5600 one by Busch and one for Dummies, neither mentions a shutter count nor how to achieve it. Is it available on Nikon D5600? and If so how to access it?

nikonshuttercount.com

Howie1a Loc: st pete fl

I use opanda it's a free program that works fine Howie

mbashor

I have a couple but mainly use the 7D Mark II for sports. That is the one with many the shutter drops that I was wondering how to determine how many. Thanks guys. Great response.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

mbashor wrote:

I have a couple but mainly use the 7D Mark II for sports. That is the one with many the shutter drops that I was wondering how to determine how many. Thanks guys. Great response.

For Canon - who for some reason does not embed shutter count data in EXIF data I recommend EOSmsg: http://www.eosmsg.com/
There is a small fee to pay per camera - less than $10 - and it can be used for as many readings as you wish. I would recommend downloading from the site above rather than any alternative sites. I have found it to be malware free, at least from the main site.

Good luck

amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA

martinfisherphoto wrote:

Up to 9,999 and then roles pack to 1. How do you find the true count?????

You are confusing the file numbering system with shutter count. Those are two very different things.

File numbering is sequential up to 9999, as you say... then it rolls over and restarts at 1 again. (Some older cameras only went to 999... and some cameras allow the user to choose whether file number remains consecutive or resets each time a new memory card is installed or some other options).

Shutter count is a continuous sequence of actuations or "clicks" throughout the lifetime of the camera. It is sort of like car mileage.

Shutter count may or may not tell you very much. Early on (late 1990s), it was a big issue because many manufacturers were using shutter (and other) mechanisms the simply adapted from their film cameras. It turned out that digital users shots 4X, 5X... even 10X more images than film shooters! After all, "digital is free"! (Which is not really true... although there isn't the ongoing cost of buying film and paying to get each roll processed reminding and constraining the user, the way there was with film cameras.)

Shutters in some early digital were only good for 15,000 or 20,000 actuations. Olympus was making some great cameras that appealed to pro users who were just starting to get their feet wet with digital... but were wearing out shutters (and other mechanisms) in 6 months or less! Oly ended up having to replace a lot of worn out parts under warranty... sometimes twice! That HAD to be expensive! All manufacturers took heed and redesigned their shutters (and other mechanisms) for increased durability... so that the cameras might be expected to live for 4 or 5 years (or at least until the warranty expires!

)

Canon's more entry level Rebel series (xxxD and xxxxD models outside N. America) are typically rated for 75,000 actuations. Their mid-grade models like 80D and 6D are rated for 100,000 clicks. And their more upscale models like 5DIII/IV, original 7D might be expected to achieve a 150,000 shutter count, while higher speed models like older 1D series and 7DII are rated for 200K, and ultra high end models for 300K to 450K.

In truth these are mere estimates that were calculated in advance by engineers designing the components. I know of some 5D-serises that have exceeded a million clicks and are still going.

Shutter count is a "mean time between failure" figure... an estimated average life expectancy that's related to the shutter, but actually might apply to all components of the camera much the way mileage is used for automobiles. There is no warranty directly associated with shutter count, though, the way there often is with cars. You might buy a Ford Focus with a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty (whichever comes first)... but you get a 1 year or two year or whatever with cameras... there's no mention of "clicks" at all.

Plus, not all clicks are equal. What I mean by that is a camera with very low shutter count that's been used for a lot of video might actually have far more hours of use on its components, compared to a camera that's been used exclusively to make still images. Videos might average 30 seconds of continuous power-on status for the camera... while a shutter actuation might average 1/250 of a second. If those averages were accurate, in some ways TWO videos would be equal to 7500 stills! In other words, the camera's "power on" status would be the same with 20 videos versus 75000 still images!

This is a little like wear and tear on an automobile not being fully explained by mileage either... A car that's driven in town, for shorter trips in stop and go traffic will wear out in fewer miles than a car that's mostly used for highway cruising.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

amfoto1 wrote:

You are confusing the file numbering system with shutter count. Those are two very different things.

File numbering is sequential up to 9999, as you say... then it rolls over and restarts at 1 again. (Some older cameras only went to 999... and some cameras allow the user to choose whether file number remains consecutive or resets each time a new memory card is installed or some other options).

Shutter count is a continuous sequence of actuations or "clicks" throughout the lifetime of the camera. It is sort of like car mileage.

Shutter count may or may not tell you very much. Early on (late 1990s), it was a big issue because many manufacturers were using shutter (and other) mechanisms the simply adapted from their film cameras. It turned out that digital users shots 4X, 5X... even 10X more images than film shooters! After all, "digital is free"! (Which is not really true... although there isn't the ongoing cost of buying film and paying to get each roll processed reminding and constraining the user, the way there was with film cameras.)

Shutters in some early digital were only good for 15,000 or 20,000 actuations. Olympus was making some great cameras that appealed to pro users who were just starting to get their feet wet with digital... but were wearing out shutters (and other mechanisms) in 6 months or less! Oly ended up having to replace a lot of worn out parts under warranty... sometimes twice! That HAD to be expensive! All manufacturers took heed and redesigned their shutters (and other mechanisms) for increased durability... so that the cameras might be expected to live for 4 or 5 years (or at least until the warranty expires!

)

Canon's more entry level Rebel series (xxxD and xxxxD models outside N. America) are typically rated for 75,000 actuations. Their mid-grade models like 80D and 6D are rated for 100,000 clicks. And their more upscale models like 5DIII/IV, original 7D might be expected to achieve a 150,000 shutter count, while higher speed models like older 1D series and 7DII are rated for 200K, and ultra high end models for 300K to 450K.

In truth these are mere estimates that were calculated in advance by engineers designing the components. I know of some 5D-serises that have exceeded a million clicks and are still going.

Shutter count is a "mean time between failure" figure... an estimated average life expectancy that's related to the shutter, but actually might apply to all components of the camera much the way mileage is used for automobiles. There is no warranty directly associated with shutter count, though, the way there often is with cars. You might buy a Ford Focus with a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty (whichever comes first)... but you get a 1 year or two year or whatever with cameras... there's no mention of "clicks" at all.

Plus, not all clicks are equal. What I mean by that is a camera with very low shutter count that's been used for a lot of video might actually have far more hours of use on its components, compared to a camera that's been used exclusively to make still images. Videos might average 30 seconds of continuous power-on status for the camera... while a shutter actuation might average 1/250 of a second. If those averages were accurate, in some ways TWO videos would be equal to 7500 stills! In other words, the camera's "power on" status would be the same with 20 videos versus 75000 still images!

This is a little like wear and tear on an automobile not being fully explained by mileage either... A car that's driven in town, for shorter trips in stop and go traffic will wear out in fewer miles than a car that's mostly used for highway cruising.

You are confusing the file numbering system with s... (show quote)

Yep.

Alan makes a very good observation about shutter actuation readings not revealing wear and tear on other components. This can be significant if there is extensive video use. One of the reasons that I like EOSmsg is that it counts "mirror up" events separately from "shutter clicks", and it works for many brands in addition to Canon. As Alan says these things are only a guide to camera longevity, which depends upon each person's usage style will cause different wear and tear effects, but it is still possible to estimate usage from sequential file numbers even if they do reset without additional tools.

If we assume that most modern cameras have between 100,000 and 200,000 actuations, just as an example, all you have to do is work out how many images or videos you make in a normal week/month/year. If, for example, it is 10,000 then your camera should last you around 10 years.

At the end of the day, it is a crap shoot as with any product, regardless of MTBF estimates.

martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida

No confusing here as stated in my question, How do you Find the True Shutter Count.. What's confusing is that not All photo software reveals the shutter count when viewing the Exif data, only the sequence file number. I ended up using "Photos" on my mac computer. Through this software you can find the shutter count.

amfoto1 wrote:

You are confusing the file numbering system with shutter count. Those are two very different things.

File numbering is sequential up to 9999, as you say... then it rolls over and restarts at 1 again. (Some older cameras only went to 999... and some cameras allow the user to choose whether file number remains consecutive or resets each time a new memory card is installed or some other options).

Shutter count is a continuous sequence of actuations or "clicks" throughout the lifetime of the camera. It is sort of like car mileage.

Shutter count may or may not tell you very much. Early on (late 1990s), it was a big issue because many manufacturers were using shutter (and other) mechanisms the simply adapted from their film cameras. It turned out that digital users shots 4X, 5X... even 10X more images than film shooters! After all, "digital is free"! (Which is not really true... although there isn't the ongoing cost of buying film and paying to get each roll processed reminding and constraining the user, the way there was with film cameras.)

Shutters in some early digital were only good for 15,000 or 20,000 actuations. Olympus was making some great cameras that appealed to pro users who were just starting to get their feet wet with digital... but were wearing out shutters (and other mechanisms) in 6 months or less! Oly ended up having to replace a lot of worn out parts under warranty... sometimes twice! That HAD to be expensive! All manufacturers took heed and redesigned their shutters (and other mechanisms) for increased durability... so that the cameras might be expected to live for 4 or 5 years (or at least until the warranty expires!

)

Canon's more entry level Rebel series (xxxD and xxxxD models outside N. America) are typically rated for 75,000 actuations. Their mid-grade models like 80D and 6D are rated for 100,000 clicks. And their more upscale models like 5DIII/IV, original 7D might be expected to achieve a 150,000 shutter count, while higher speed models like older 1D series and 7DII are rated for 200K, and ultra high end models for 300K to 450K.

In truth these are mere estimates that were calculated in advance by engineers designing the components. I know of some 5D-serises that have exceeded a million clicks and are still going.

Shutter count is a "mean time between failure" figure... an estimated average life expectancy that's related to the shutter, but actually might apply to all components of the camera much the way mileage is used for automobiles. There is no warranty directly associated with shutter count, though, the way there often is with cars. You might buy a Ford Focus with a 3 year, 36,000 mile warranty (whichever comes first)... but you get a 1 year or two year or whatever with cameras... there's no mention of "clicks" at all.

Plus, not all clicks are equal. What I mean by that is a camera with very low shutter count that's been used for a lot of video might actually have far more hours of use on its components, compared to a camera that's been used exclusively to make still images. Videos might average 30 seconds of continuous power-on status for the camera... while a shutter actuation might average 1/250 of a second. If those averages were accurate, in some ways TWO videos would be equal to 7500 stills! In other words, the camera's "power on" status would be the same with 20 videos versus 75000 still images!

This is a little like wear and tear on an automobile not being fully explained by mileage either... A car that's driven in town, for shorter trips in stop and go traffic will wear out in fewer miles than a car that's mostly used for highway cruising.

You are confusing the file numbering system with s... (show quote)

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

martinfisherphoto wrote:

No confusing here as stated in my question, How do you Find the True Shutter Count.. What's confusing is that not All photo software reveals the shutter count when viewing the Exif data, only the sequence file number. I ended up using "Photos" on my mac computer. Through this software you can find the shutter count.

It does all depend on the software. I checked an image of yours from photo gallery - nice image - I can tell you the serial number of your camera, but the shutter count info appears to have been stripped out by whatever software you used, or the software that I am using to examine the EXIF data. Perhaps if there is a straight SOOC .jpg we could run a test. So that means not going anywhere near an Adobe product I suspect. Can you post an image that shows the shutter count information in Photos?

Lostlenscap

Recorded in the EXIF data by the camera, but not a viewable in camera atleast for Nikons. I am not sure about Canon, but in truth- I buy my bodies new and don't worry about it until something fails. It might be worth checking if buying used, but remember the manufacture's rating is probably lower than the mean time between failure as they don't want to do warranty work and would rather you move to a new body under thier brand. A mechanical failure is more than likely going to have you considering another brand and they know that.