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Jan 15, 2018 22:17:25   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
pmackd wrote:
You didn't say why you think you need a 24 - 70 or whether you intend to stick with DX. You do seem willing to spend close to or more than $1000.
If you are going to stick with DX the Nikon 16-80 VR may make more sense. Do you really need the increment of sharpness a smaller range high quality zoom provides? Do you really need f2.8 across the whole focal length range? In 2018 do you really want to walk around with a non VR lens? Or a lens that omits the wide angle range (DX) 16 -24 mm?

Personally I would not be interested in a 24 - 70 unless or until I had a high Mp full frame camera like D810 or D850.
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The Nikon 24-70mm f2.8. One of the Nikon's Holy Trinity Of Lenses, works just fine on the 21.3 megapixels sensor on a D5. A $6500 pro camera. Also Canon's 24-70mm f2.8 L lens, does well on the Canon 1DX Mark 2. About the same megapixels as the Nikon D5. Both full frame cameras.

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Jan 15, 2018 22:49:49   #
btbg
 
Boris Ekner wrote:
Looking for advice.

Im thinking of replacing the 18-55mm kittens with the Nikon or Tokina 24-70mm f/2.8.

Both lenses are FF, but I intend to use it on my Nikon D5300 DX body.

According to my research:
1. The Nikon 24-70 has a sharpness issue at f2.8 but with an accurate autofocus. Tests made by lenstip.com showed only 1% of pictures out of focus.

2. The Tokina 24-70 is very sharp at f2.8 but suffers a higher amount of pictures out of focus, ~17%.

1st conclusion
From my current point of view this favors the Nikon over the Tokina as I probably won’t shoot that much at 2.8 due to the narrow Depth Of Field at that aperture.

2nd conclusion
Furthermore, test results show that the Nikon only has ~1% out of focus, which means less failed photos due to equipment performance.

3rd conclusion
Price is ~$850 for a used Nikon 24-70, but for a similar amount one get a brand new Tokina.

I’m leaning towards a used Nikon 24-70. Would you do the same using it on a DX body, or would you chose the Tokina?
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The Nikon all the way. That's what I purchased and mine is a great lens.

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Jan 16, 2018 07:44:31   #
Jim Bob
 
btbg wrote:
The Nikon all the way. That's what I purchased and mine is a great lens.


Oh, I see. You bought Nikon and therefore, it's the best. Many on this site will love and adopt your flawed logic.

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Jan 16, 2018 09:29:02   #
sigpaw
 
Boris Ekner wrote:
I saw that too. However, as reviews states the old one, without the electronic aperture, is preferable I'm rather aiming for that one as one of my options.


Actually, many of the early reviews were "skewed". Some of the early reviews only tested the new Nikkor in the center, at close range. The new Nikon 24-70 is a bit softer there. But EVERYWHERE else, it is a monster. Corners and mid frame are much sharper. So if you are doing studio portrait work, the old one is better. But for wildlife, nature, sports the new one is a big improvement.

Overall my go-to reviewer gave it 4.5 stars with dings for Bokeh and Handling.

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Jan 16, 2018 21:00:11   #
hangman45 Loc: Hueytown Alabama
 
billnikon wrote:
Well, by my pen name you know which one I would go with. Better quality parts, all produced by Nikon and not produced by the lowest bidder. Nikon produces their lenses to work specifically on Nikon camera's and not to work on a variety of camera's. Nikon lenses are made to BETTER tolerances than 3rd party glass, tight tolerances are expensive to manufacture, there is just no way around it. Sure, third party glass is cheaper to start out with, but over time, not only will the Nikon lenses delivery better IQ, but they will be worth MUCH more when you sale it. Yes, you probably will make up the difference in price when you sell it. Third party glass loses a lot in resale. Those tolerances are really telling under extreme use over time. Yes, you do get what you pay for. Especially for that particular lens.
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I see you spouting how Nikon is always the best option even when it is often that the Nikon does not perform as well but have never seen you post any proof of your claims most of the time sounds like you are reading a sales manual.

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Jan 16, 2018 21:03:25   #
hangman45 Loc: Hueytown Alabama
 
Largobob wrote:
Rubbish. Nikon has been making lenses for their 35mm film cameras for decades. Yes, those were full frame. You never mentioned digital cameras.


You need to learn how to read the lens that was mentioned was the 17-55 2.8 which was a design made for DX and yes it was before a Full Frame digital was offered so the only rubbish is your reply

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Jan 16, 2018 21:07:47   #
hangman45 Loc: Hueytown Alabama
 
dpfoto wrote:
I may be old fashioned, but I only use NIKON glass on my Nikon cameras. If I had Canon cameras, I'd only use CANON glass. I won't take a chance with off-brand glass.


What are you actually taking a chance with it is not like a third party lens is going to damage you camera

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Jan 16, 2018 21:17:47   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
I have a bag full of Nikkor glass. Except for a Sigma lens I used many years ago with my D70s, I have not paid any attention to non-Nikon lenses. The lenses are part of a photographic system and designed to work with the bodies. I buy used if possible and have never been disappointed. No, I am not getting paid for this. PS - Nikkor lenses hold their value better than the knock-off versions.

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Jan 16, 2018 21:25:36   #
hangman45 Loc: Hueytown Alabama
 
Fotomacher wrote:
I have a bag full of Nikkor glass. Except for a Sigma lens I used many years ago with my D70s, I have not paid any attention to non-Nikon lenses. The lenses are part of a photographic system and designed to work with the bodies. I buy used if possible and have never been disappointed. No, I am not getting paid for this. PS - Nikkor lenses hold their value better than the knock-off versions.


Some of the best lens ever made were third party Vivitar Series1 Macro is just one example and the resale has stayed high on them if you never try others you only assume that Nikkor glass is better all the lens made by Tamron and Sigma now days are manufactured to work with in a system the days of one lens being made with many mounts are over.

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