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Jan 15, 2018 09:56:46   #
Nikonman44
 
Peterff wrote:
Sorry, that's not an accurate perspective. Tulip hoods are related to how wide angle the lens is and the sensor aspect ratio, not zoom or prime.



Not to get into a tinklin contest here but photocat was correct in many ways. The Tulips are usually supplied with the zoom lens. The purpose is to reduce possible vignetting at the variable lengths.

Is that the only reason NO. It is most assuredly one reason. You do find the more solid barrel hoods on Prime lens too. So you are both correct I have the barrel lens hood type and sits on a 500 mm lens.

My 55 - 200 and other Nikon lens that are zooms all came with tulip type hoods HB32 HB 16 and such.

I think the original question had more to do with which one or do I even need one (hoods) to use on my lens and why.

The requester has obviously gotten a world full of ideas and suggestions. Now he will feel good to go outside and not use anyone of them.

Have a fantastic day and may the Hoods be with you.

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Jan 15, 2018 10:14:41   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
“Vented hoods” and “tulip hoods” are not the same thing. The tulip design minimizes vignetting in the corners while providing optimal shading for the rest of the image. Vented hoods have circular slots around the circumference of the hood near the bayonet.

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Jan 15, 2018 10:37:33   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
Nikonman44 wrote:
It is really very simple. The solid version tends to cause some vignetting depending on your shot and the use of certain flashes. Inside especially problematic .. The vented hood gives you a little relief in that matter but still can cause the vignette when using on camera flash unit.

Outside, either of the hoods is a good idea because it will keep extraneous lights out of your lens and therefore the foto.

Its not the same as a polarizing filter but makes for better shots by blocking those pesky lights and aborrations from just outside your field of view.

Hope that helps. YES use them outside for sure.
It is really very simple. The solid version tends ... (show quote)


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Seems to me. that you are mixing up a (Leica) vented hood, with a DSLR (Type) Tulip hood. Perhaps you do not know what a Leica Vented hood looks like, or you would NOT have related the hood in the context of vignetting. Misinformation sets a nasty snowballing action.
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Jan 15, 2018 10:45:19   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
photocat wrote:
The tulip hood is made ususally for zoom type lens (not always) so that a various focal lengths there will be no vingetting

Prime lens tend to have a straight barrel look


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A Leica Vented hood , is completely different to the Tulip lens hood. Why would you bring a different kind of Hood into the discussion? Misinformation creates a bad snowball effect.

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Jan 15, 2018 10:47:26   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
“Vented hoods” and “tulip hoods” are not the same thing. The tulip design minimizes vignetting in the corners while providing optimal shading for the rest of the image. Vented hoods have circular slots around the circumference of the hood near the bayonet.


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I'll second those comments. You are not alone ...LoneRangefinder.

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Jan 15, 2018 11:04:40   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
The vented lens hoods obstruct your view less. You can see through the vents in them. I use them on my rangefinders. The are intended to be used with rangefinder cameras. The vents will serve no purpose on an SLR or DSLR.

SVP



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Jan 15, 2018 11:12:43   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Kiron Kid wrote:
The vented lens hoods obstruct your view less. You can see through the vents in them. I use them on my rangefinders. The are intended to be used with rangefinder cameras. The vents will serve no purpose on an SLR or DSLR.

SVP



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Jan 15, 2018 11:14:39   #
Pizza Day
 
I find it interesting. Pablo8 responded to my initial post with a snarky reply suggesting that I’m lame for owning an M3 and 50MM Summicron without knowing the intricacies of lens hoods. Yet, it seems that there’s more to the issue than Pablo8 initially contemplated. Multiple posts, civilized debate and good faith disagreements on the more subtle points of the subject. Pablo? I hope you learned something here, not just about lens hoods, but about misplaced sarcasm and the value of our collective consciousness in the HH community.

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Jan 15, 2018 14:17:55   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Nikonman44 wrote:
Not to get into a tinklin contest here but photocat was correct in many ways. The Tulips are usually supplied with the zoom lens. The purpose is to reduce possible vignetting at the variable lengths.

Is that the only reason NO. It is most assuredly one reason. You do find the more solid barrel hoods on Prime lens too. So you are both correct I have the barrel lens hood type and sits on a 500 mm lens.

My 55 - 200 and other Nikon lens that are zooms all came with tulip type hoods HB32 HB 16 and such.

I think the original question had more to do with which one or do I even need one (hoods) to use on my lens and why.

The requester has obviously gotten a world full of ideas and suggestions. Now he will feel good to go outside and not use anyone of them.

Have a fantastic day and may the Hoods be with you.
Not to get into a tinklin contest here but photoca... (show quote)


The OP was seeking information about lens hoods. Part of the response to that is providing factually accurate information. It is not correct that tulip hoods are exclusively for zoom lenses. Tulips are mostly needed for wide angle lenses, which can be zooms at the wide end, so thus they frequently have tulip shaped hoods. It is related to the aspect ratio of many films or sensors, but many primes of 35mm or less today have tulip shaped hoods. I also suspect that modern manufacturing techniques have enabled the production of tulip lens hoods economically.

Let's try to provide the best and most accurate information that we can. Disinformation is not helpful.

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Jan 15, 2018 20:01:29   #
Nikonman44
 
Pizza Day wrote:
I find it interesting. Pablo8 responded to my initial post with a snarky reply suggesting that I’m lame for owning an M3 and 50MM Summicron without knowing the intricacies of lens hoods. Yet, it seems that there’s more to the issue than Pablo8 initially contemplated. Multiple posts, civilized debate and good faith disagreements on the more subtle points of the subject. Pablo? I hope you learned something here, not just about lens hoods, but about misplaced sarcasm and the value of our collective consciousness in the HH community.
I find it interesting. Pablo8 responded to my init... (show quote)


Hey take what you feel is relevant and helpful and dont take what concerns you to heart.

Most post' have something good in each.

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Jan 16, 2018 04:15:42   #
Pablo8 Loc: Nottingham UK.
 
Pizza Day wrote:
I find it interesting. Pablo8 responded to my initial post with a snarky reply suggesting that I’m lame for owning an M3 and 50MM Summicron without knowing the intricacies of lens hoods. Yet, it seems that there’s more to the issue than Pablo8 initially contemplated. Multiple posts, civilized debate and good faith disagreements on the more subtle points of the subject. Pablo? I hope you learned something here, not just about lens hoods, but about misplaced sarcasm and the value of our collective consciousness in the HH community.
I find it interesting. Pablo8 responded to my init... (show quote)


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"I speak, as I find". At least I didn't bring Tulip Hoods into the discussion, to cause a wealth of mis-information. I know the difference between Slot vented, and Tulip hoods.

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Jan 16, 2018 06:09:56   #
Dan Mc Loc: NM
 
"Vented" hoods are specifically built for aerodynamics and speed. They cause less drag and when used in combination with Air Jordan foot wear v leather Oxfords and such, make getting in there for a close shot better. Hope that explains it. ;-^)

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Jan 16, 2018 06:40:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Pizza Day wrote:
Some say the vented is intended to limit interference when looking through the viewfinder.


That's what I've found.

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/136-pentax-q/208336-question-about-01-vented-lens-hood.html
https://www.photo.net/discuss/threads/why-vents-on-lens-hoods-such-as-leica-12585-h.160277/

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Jan 16, 2018 06:45:50   #
burgold2 Loc: Cheshire. U.K.
 
Hi Pizza Day, if you intend the hood to be used mainly or solely on the M3 you need the vented hood in order to not obscure VF/Rangefinder. Wish i'd never parted with mine.Enjoy !
ian

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Jan 16, 2018 06:55:46   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Pizza Day wrote:
I am buying a lens hood for my Leica M3 with Summicron 50MM f/2 lens. Trying to understand the functional difference between the vented vs. solid versions. Can someone possibly explain? Also, do I even need a lens hood for everyday out door (or indoor) shooting? Thanks for your help.


If it is a rangefinder only you need the hood. You cannot pick up stray light that is coming into your lens through the viewfinder, so, leave it in place.

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