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Jan 13, 2018 15:13:14   #
craggycrossers Loc: Robin Hood Country, UK
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Olympus has a really restricted lens line. Most of the 3r party vendors, Sigma most noticeably, are bringing our Fuji compatible lenses.


Not sure where you're getting your info from !

A valued UHH contributor (burkphoto) is a micro 4/3 specialist and has long extolled the virtue of the available lens line from both Olympus and Panasonic.

Furthermore ...... this is the third time I've seen you posting information about Sigma producing (or going to) lenses for Fuji X-Series cameras. I (Fuji user since 2013) have cordially asked you twice for "credible sources" for this info ...... maybe you've not seen it. But there are host of people now being attracted to Fuji for the first time, many from existing makes, with little knowledge of Fuji cameras and lenses, who will also be listening/watching remarks such as yours.

However, from my own position some 8 time zones ahead of you, I have tried to get a handle on "Sigma lenses for Fuji" and find nothing but lots of reasons why Sigma AREN'T particularly interested in producing such lenses. This particular post from 2016 gives the two major reasons why not ......

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4000593

....... and a simple Google search "Sigma lenses for Fuji X mount" reveals nothing along the lines of your info ...... https://www.google.co.uk/search?biw=1920&bih=949&ei=BmZaWqaMHujUgAa4xIzIDw&q=sigma+lenses+for+fuji+x+mount&oq=sigma+lenses+for+&gs_l=psy-ab.1.9.0l10.33954.65904.0.69535.53.46.2.5.5.0.174.3948.27j15.42.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..4.41.3396...0i13k1j0i7i10i30k1j0i13i30k1j0i7i30k1j0i22i30k1j0i67k1j0i10k1j0i131i67k1j0i131k1.0.wazlc_BFZBs

I have also gone back 6 months on Sigma Corporation of America's website (their Sigma Lounge / News) ..... https://www.sigmaphoto.com/sigma-lounge/news ........ and find nothing. That's EXACTLY the place one would expect to find info such as yours ....... the "horse's mouth" so-to-speak !

What do you know that seems to be unavailable to others? I'm interested, as, I'm sure, are other UHH Fuji X users.

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Jan 13, 2018 15:24:01   #
OKPhotog Loc: Oklahoma
 
I have shot Canon for over 20 years, currently a 5D III and until recently, a 7DII. I had been interested in acquiring a mirrorless system for travel for sometime before finally acquiring a Fuji XT-2. The professional reviews and the APS-C sensor lead me to go to the local camera store and look at it. I had downloaded and read the manual in advance so I would have some familiarity with the controls before getting my hands on it, since Fujis are very different. I left the store with it and have been very pleased with my purchase. The Fuji glass is fantastic. It compares very favorably with the Canon L glass I am accustomed to using. With other smaller cameras that I had used for travel, I always felt that I had compromised quality. Not so with the Fuji. I have been so happy with it, I recently sold my 7D II and the lens I used for wildlife, not feeling the need for two crop frame cameras, and purchased the 100-400mm Fuji lens. So....though I bought it for travel....it has moved well beyond that purpose. I kept the kit lens (which is a very nice lightweight lens), but also acquired a 16-55 2.8 that I feel compares very well to the Canon 24-70 2.8 II that I am accustomed to using on my 5D III. When I need to keep it light, I use the kit lens, a XF 55-200, and a small prime, which makes a very lightweight compact system.

The Fuji system does have a learning curve, as does most anything new. The focusing system is fast and accurate when you have taken the time to learn the proper settings (I was testing it on a bees on flowers on a windy day and got sharp shots to my surprise!) And, if you shoot RAW and use Lightroom, you will have to adjust your settings for the Fuji files. Plus, the camera is so customizable that figuring that out can take some time, too. But it is worth it!!

So....that is my two cents worth. Here is a one of those test shots. Remember the flower and the bee were definitely moving in the wind. Not perfect, but pretty good given the situation and my inexperience with the camera at the time.


(Download)

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Jan 13, 2018 16:19:04   #
tuthdoc
 
Thanks everybody for all the helpful info!

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Jan 13, 2018 19:01:52   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Curious for those Fuji shooters...what’s the widest lens for the system?

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Jan 13, 2018 19:32:34   #
OKPhotog Loc: Oklahoma
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Curious for those Fuji shooters...what’s the widest lens for the system?


Currently, the widest is the 10-24mm f4 image stabilized, but the 2018 lens roadmap shows an 8-16mm 2.8 is coming. There is also a 14mm prime. These are just the Fuji lenses. There are a couple of other brands, too, but I don’t have that info.

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Jan 13, 2018 22:29:21   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Curious for those Fuji shooters...what’s the widest lens for the system?

The Fujinon 14mm suggested by OKPhotog is very sharp.

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Jan 14, 2018 01:59:55   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
Curious for those Fuji shooters...what’s the widest lens for the system?


The widest prime would be the 14mm. As per UHHer, GoofyNewfy, it is very sharp. As a recent “convert”, I have an 18-55 “kit”, which, from my experience is significantly better that the kit lenses from the “big three”. I also have the 60 mm 2:1 “not quite macro.” Fuji has something like 27 totally new lenses in the last four years. Very impressive. There’s a lot to like about Fuji—easy to use. I’ve not tried the Oly 4/3. I did use an Olympus film camera—but cannot recall which model it was.

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Jan 14, 2018 03:18:08   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
tuthdoc wrote:
Planning to begin buying into one of the systems soon. Your thoughts are welcome! I do all kinds of photography however my first love is landscape photography. I have developed neck and back problems so a lighter system is a must for me.


Fuji, Olympus, or Panasonic: I suspect you will be happy with any of them. If or as you get lenses for which ever system, you probably produce a slightly smaller, lighter, and less costly system with the Olympus or Panasonic systems. I have the Olympus E-M1 mrII now and admit the menu was more intimidating than my former E-M5. But it is not impossible to learn the logic behind it and it will provide the most picture control over any other camera I have held. If you do any video, the Panasonic demands a good looking over. And I know of no really serious complaints about the Fuji X-T2 and only glowing compliments from users. I think your work is cut out for you deciding - but you will be happy with what you choose from the present three best mirrorless systems out there.

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Jan 14, 2018 07:34:10   #
craggycrossers Loc: Robin Hood Country, UK
 
OKPhotog wrote:
Currently, the widest is the 10-24mm f4 image stabilized, but the 2018 lens roadmap shows an 8-16mm 2.8 is coming. There is also a 14mm prime. These are just the Fuji lenses. There are a couple of other brands, too, but I don’t have that info.


For info - the other wide angle lens which has attracted may Fuji users is the Samyang (Rokinon) 12mm f2 NCS CS which can be bought with an X mount. Just Google its reviews and you'll find lots of praise. One thing to remember ...... it's manual focus only but, as many users of really wide angle lenses (not me !) tell me, manual focus isn't a bad thing on these lenses as depth of field tends to be huge. I've seen reviews saying "just set focus to infinity and exposure to f5.6 to f11 and forget it"). Currently it's probably the cheapest ultra-wide you can get for X-Series. The XF 10-24 isn't cheap and, going by recent rises in new XF lens costs in the UK, my guess is that the 8-16 f2.8 R LM WR (coming in Spring?) won't be either.

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Jan 14, 2018 07:48:51   #
kivis
 
I have tried all of these brands. For me a small carry daily rig is the Fuji X-E2s with a Fuji 35/2 WR lens. Photos are magic. Love the controls.

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Jan 14, 2018 07:55:11   #
jackpi Loc: Southwest Ohio
 
tuthdoc wrote:
Planning to begin buying into one of the systems soon. Your thoughts are welcome! I do all kinds of photography however my first love is landscape photography. I have developed neck and back problems so a lighter system is a must for me.

Both cameras have great lenses available for both landscapes and wildlife/sports. A complete Fuji landscape kit (~15mm to 200mm) with three pro-quality lenses will weigh about 5.7 lb, vs 5,2 lb for Olympus and 8.6 lb for Nikon. Fuji has better image quality at high ISO (6400), but most landscapes are shot from a tripod at low ISO. Although I own a Fuji system, I think I would have been just as happy with an Olympus system for landscape photography.

For birds in flight/wildlife/sports, I would favor the Olympus system because you can get a 840mm efov at f/5.6 for 4.5 lb vs f/8 for 5.3 lb with the Fuji system. The difference between f/5.6 and f/8 is significant with respect to AF speed.

The Fuji has 24Mp vs 20Mp for the Olympus. You can print 13x19 at 300dpi with the Olympus; 10% larger at 300dpi with the Fuji. Not a significant difference.

Tough choice. Good luck.

As for neck pain, I highly recommend a shoulder strap that goes across the body. Black Rapid makes good ones.

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Jan 14, 2018 09:10:13   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
"Why did you choose fujifilm over Olympus?"

Selecting a camera or a lens is a very personal matter. I use Olympus cameras and I am very satisfied with their performance.
Olympus has a great selection of lenses and if more are needed Panasonic lenses can be used. Lets be practical, nobody needs more than three lenses for the majority of the assignments we could have ahead of us.
Handle the cameras you have in mind if you have a near by store that sells them. You are the only one that can take the decision of buying the body that has the features and ergonomics that make you feel comfortable with your shooting and subjects.

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Jan 14, 2018 10:16:39   #
CanonTom Loc: Birmingham
 
burkphoto wrote:
Have you looked at the link I posted above? It's actually 7 months old, and there are now about 100 Micro 4/3 lenses available.

Also, if you add a MetaBones Smart Adapter or SpeedBooster, you can put most Canon EF lenses on Micro 4/3 bodies and retain full automation.


Regarding your comment of an adapter to use Canon EF lenses on a Micro 4/3 body, would that also apply to Canon EF-S lenses? (Now that I think about it, I think it would take a different adapter for that to work than the EF?? But not sure so please tell me if you can.)

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Jan 14, 2018 11:02:01   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
If lightest is the goal, then m4/3 is the one you want.


On the other hand, APS-C sensors (like the Fuji) generally have better high ISO/low noise performance and dynamic range. It’s all about trade-offs and compromises.

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Jan 14, 2018 11:12:41   #
RoadRunner65
 
Check out this article posted by a professional who is giving up his Nikon gear and going to the Fuji system because of neck and back problems!
https://photographylife.com/landscapes/how-to-photograph-moon

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