Kiron Kid wrote:
Very true.
Hi, Kiron kid,
IMO more neg. space would help at the top, giving the gradual convergence of the ladder more space into which to allow virtual continuation of the ladder’s perceived convergence... perhaps analogous to providing more space for a person to gaze into or a moving thing to move into. In your image, the wall supporting the ladder is a solid horizontal; it is the ladder that gives the feeling of “going somewhere”.
Dave
Linda From Maine wrote:
I believe it's been a year since there was a discussion topic on this subject
Just as a discussion of bokeh should be about the
quality of the out-of-focus background (how it supports the subject), the
effective use of negative space is much more than just "empty space."
A few definitions:
- "It's about the the edges of the objects or the light/dark, and the shapes they make."
- "Meaningful negative space adds to the story that the picture is telling, or it adds to the feelings that the picture is trying to evoke."
- "Negative space can be used to denote scale, or even to draw attention into that space.
- "Negative space defines and emphasizes the main subject of a photo, drawing your eye to it."
Please offer your opinions and to help further the discussion, post examples or provide links to photos you feel use negative space in a powerful way, and tell us why you feel that way.Many thanks.
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Linda, when I displayed a print of a "resting tree" in a farmer's field, one gentleman, (a retired magazine editor), commented that it would never be accepted in most magazines because of the negative space (NS). I mentioned that several magazines I contacted years ago either refused the photo or cropped the heck out of it. They never explained why.
Being retired he told me that publications were in it for the money. Neg Space meant less room for advertisers. If any photo had lots of dark or black colors, they often got canned too. Those being the most expensive to print in magazines.
Many of my photos showed creativity. Creativity seems to be expensive back then.
GENorkus wrote:
Linda, when I displayed a print of a "resting tree" in a farmer's field, one gentleman, (a retired magazine editor), commented that it would never be accepted in most magazines because of the negative space (NS). I mentioned that several magazines I contacted years ago either refused the photo or cropped the heck out of it. They never explained why.
Being retired he told me that publications were in it for the money. Neg Space meant less room for advertisers. If any photo had lots of dark or black colors, they often got canned too. Those being the most expensive to print in magazines.
Many of my photos showed creativity. Creativity seems to be expensive back then.
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I suppose from the magazines point of view that would make sense...larger images, less room for ads. Pretty sad though
OK, I'm confused. Negative space means Less room for ads? Does that mean positive space leaves more room for ads? Please explain. Definitions would seem to be in order.
GENorkus wrote:
Linda, when I displayed a print of a "resting tree" in a farmer's field, one gentleman, (a retired magazine editor), commented that it would never be accepted in most magazines because of the negative space (NS). I mentioned that several magazines I contacted years ago either refused the photo or cropped the heck out of it. They never explained why.
Being retired he told me that publications were in it for the money. Neg Space meant less room for advertisers. If any photo had lots of dark or black colors, they often got canned too. Those being the most expensive to print in magazines.
Many of my photos showed creativity. Creativity seems to be expensive back then.
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I think these two examples qualify for negative space.
(#1 is similar to Linda's deer photograph)
Fotoartist wrote:
OK, What's the difference between negative space and positive space?
Negative space, in art, is the space around and between the subject(s) of an image. Negative space may be most evident when the space around a subject, not the subject itself, forms an interesting or artistically relevant shape, and such space occasionally is used to artistic effect as the "real" subject of an image.
Some examples:
http://www.creativebloq.com/art/art-negative-space-8133765/2
Does black space constitute "negative" space?
artBob wrote:
Negative space, in art, is the space around and between the subject(s) of an image. Negative space may be most evident when the space around a subject, not the subject itself, forms an interesting or artistically relevant shape, and such space occasionally is used to artistic effect as the "real" subject of an image.
Some examples:
http://www.creativebloq.com/art/art-negative-space-8133765/2hmmm, I seem to remember reading those exact words before...
autofocus wrote:
hmmm, I seem to remember reading those exact words before...
The google search for that phrase is fun, it's been reused a lot :)
Fotoartist wrote:
OK, I'm confused. Negative space means Less room for ads? Does that mean positive space leaves more room for ads? Please explain. Definitions would seem to be in order.
I suppose you could say that negative, or excess space that resides on an image could mostly be trimmed and eliminated for the sake of gaining more ad space room. But, what you are left with is an image that often doesn't have any breathing room, artistically, that probably sucks, but it's all about money, and not art
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