A bit naughty: This is a bit unethical and cheating their customers https://m.dpreview.com/news/2421465939/apple-admits-to-slowing-down-older-iphones-as-the-battery-gets-weaker...

Bob Smith Loc: Banjarmasin

This is a bit unethical and cheating their customers

https://m.dpreview.com/news/2421465939/apple-admits-to-slowing-down-older-iphones-as-the-battery-gets-weaker

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Bob Smith wrote:

This is a bit unethical and cheating their customers

https://m.dpreview.com/news/2421465939/apple-admits-to-slowing-down-older-iphones-as-the-battery-gets-weaker

Would you rather have longer battery life, or your phone shut down unexpectedly?

Pick one. You can’t have both.

If your iPhone battery is 18 to 24 months old, you can benefit from a new one. Apple can do it in store, as can many mall kiosks and phone repair centers. Or, iFixIt.com has kits of tools and a battery for careful do-it-your-selfers.

stevetl Loc: Muskegon, MI / Central Florida

burkphoto wrote:

Would you rather have longer battery life, or your phone shut down unexpectedly?

Pick one. You can’t have both.

If your iPhone battery is 18 to 24 months old, you can benefit from a new one. Apple can do it in store, as can many mall kiosks and phone repair centers. Or, iFixIt.com has kits of tools and a battery for careful do-it-your-selfers.

Or Apple could design phones with replacement batteries instead of the planned obsolescence that drives a new phone every 1-2 years. The consumer is at their mercy if they keep purchasing these new products every year.

Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV

Apple wants you to be dependent on them - product does not matter. That is way I never purchase Apple anymore - been there done that!

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Country Boy wrote:

Apple wants you to be dependent on them - product does not matter. That is way I never purchase Apple anymore - been there done that!

I don’t feel dependent. I just like the fact that their stuff works!

I’ve used Macs since 1985, PCs since ‘86, had an Apple IIe from ‘84 to ‘87, and had a PC and Mac on my desk from ‘91 to 2008. Since then I’ve run Windows on my Mac, using Parallels Desktop.

80% or so of my problems with computers have been with PCs or Windows. Macs are far more transparent to tasks.

Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV

I would never dispute the works of Apple equipment they do what they were designed to do. However, I have had 3 battery related problems and the fact that they don't like to provide external port access. I have found it easier to deal with Windows based services over the years.

bedouin Loc: Big Bend area, Texas

I have refused to buy any Apple product since they declined to help the FBI break into the phones used by 2 terrorists who murdered handicapped children in CA.

Bob Smith Loc: Banjarmasin

I think the point of my comment is it ethical for a company to deliberately slow down a product to increase the likelihood of the customer buying a new one. If you bought a car and the manufacturer came along and without your knowledge altered the engine management system so it performs badly just so you buy a new car would you think it was ok?

dcampbell52 Loc: Clearwater Fl

burkphoto wrote:

I don’t feel dependent. I just like the fact that their stuff works!

I’ve used Macs since 1985, PCs since ‘86, had an Apple IIe from ‘84 to ‘87, and had a PC and Mac on my desk from ‘91 to 2008. Since then I’ve run Windows on my Mac, using Parallels Desktop.

80% or so of my problems with computers have been with PCs or Windows. Macs are far more transparent to tasks.

Wow!!! I was one of the first Lisa trained Techs and have worked on Apples since the early 1980's. ALL of my computers are either PC based or Unix. Apple has ALWAYS been less than good. Now, don't get me wrong, the Apple II was a great machine, the Apple III was junk. Lisa was interesting but was stolen from Xerox. I still remember the Apple / Microsoft wars. I even have an Apple II in the garage.. Of course I have a Compaq, a Commander, and probably a Timex out there too.

I don't do Apple anything anymore. The Kids have Apple phones, a Galaxy pad, and an Ipad. I have LG phones and Galaxy notebooks. Their Ipad is ONLY used as a baby monitor. They use their Galaxy Pad for everything else.
They used to have a Mac but it died and went to the electrics recycle.

NJFrank Loc: New Jersey

I guess the alternative is but a non Apple phone. But the likelihood of that happening is slim. People are hooked on their Iphones.

fourlocks Loc: Londonderry, NH

burkphoto wrote:

Would you rather have longer battery life, or your phone shut down unexpectedly?

Pick one. You can’t have both.

If your iPhone battery is 18 to 24 months old, you can benefit from a new one. Apple can do it in store, as can many mall kiosks and phone repair centers. Or, iFixIt.com has kits of tools and a battery for careful do-it-your-selfers.

Everyone wants a battery that can recharge in 20 minutes...and then run for 20 hours. After years of PCs and Microsoft, I switched to an iMac and iPhone and overall, I find the Apple products work as promised, without any problems. Each day I turn them on and they run perfectly. Couldn't say that for Windows. I will admit my Kindle Paperwhite runs for a week or more on a charge but all it does is display book pages and takes 4 to 6 hours to recharge.

Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV

To the original question, if I purchase something because it performs as I desire and the company providing it decides that that they can improve some portion of that machine by making it slower I want the option of saying no. I have a sports car and if the manufacturer decides they can make the tires last longer by reducing my speed to a max of 50 mph I would be really upset!

Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI

A basic question on replacing batteries: Do other major smartphone brands also make it difficult to replace batteries? I understood that this feature, seen in laptops as well, is mainly done to save space inside the devices.

andesbill

Bob Smith wrote:

This is a bit unethical and cheating their customers

https://m.dpreview.com/news/2421465939/apple-admits-to-slowing-down-older-iphones-as-the-battery-gets-weaker

The problem is not with Apple, but with the current LI ion battery technology. Apple produces batteries specifically designed for their equipment. They look for high efficiency with safety paramount. When the battery reaches the point where not slowing it down might result in either a fire or a shut down, they slow the clockwork down. If you get a battery app for free, it will keep you informed as to the efficiency of your battery.
The question not asked, is what do the other companies do when their toys reach that point in their battery life?
BTW I have an iphone 6, 3 years old, with a cracked window (beneath a protective cover) that works perfectly.
What Apple should do is notify us of an impending slowdown, and suggest replacing the battery.

shelty Loc: Medford, OR

Who cares? I use a simple clasp phone. Now the reason for that is: If I need to call 911 I can simply unclasp the phone and hit the 911 numbers. When I broke my leg in the kitchen some years ago, I got out my smart phone and tried to dial 911. Because of the way I was laying, every time I tried to dial 911 my left hand would touch the screen and I had to start all over again, and that happened a over a half a dozen times before I finally got through. Also I only make or receive about one call a month, and none of us believes in messaging which I believe is antisocial and a waist of time. Why don't you just call the other person and get it over with. I get a kick of all the young people walking around with their head down looking at their phone.