What makes a christian?
Dec 21, 2017 19:49:00 #
Rongnongno wrote:
Ok, it seems I did not ask the right question because I am starting to feel I just get a 'mantra'...
You had ask for someone's basic belief... what is it that you truly want to know?
Dec 21, 2017 19:56:20 #
Bangee5 wrote:
You had ask for someone's basic belief... what is it that you truly want to know?
Not basic beliefs, they are the same.
I created another thread that maybe more specific.
Dec 22, 2017 08:17:44 #
Yankeepapa6
Loc: New York City
Rongnongno wrote:
Ok, it seems I did not ask the right question because I am starting to feel I just get a 'mantra'...
Ok. It's bedtime.
Dec 22, 2017 11:06:27 #
Rongnongno wrote:
Ok, it seems I did not ask the right question because I am starting to feel I just get a 'mantra'...
I would advise those who replied to Rongnonogno to ignore his post and those who are thinking of giving an answer to
forget it. Just ignore Rongnonogno and this (like a gas bubble) will pass.
Dec 22, 2017 11:24:39 #
d3200prime wrote:
I would advise those who replied to Rongnonogno to ignore his post and those who are thinking of giving an answer to
forget it. Just ignore Rongnonogno and this (like a gas bubble) will pass.
forget it. Just ignore Rongnonogno and this (like a gas bubble) will pass.
And this shows another person incapable of expressing his/her faith w/o resorting to the bible.
The bible is a good source of information for a christian but one needs to learn to NOT use it when conversing.
This is similar to two persons in bar giving number and burst laughing. Each number corresponds to a joke they know so they understand. Everyone else is left out.
This is what you do.
Building walls around your faith is ridiculous, get out of that.
Dec 22, 2017 18:50:56 #
Rongnongno wrote:
And this shows another person incapable of expressing his/her faith w/o resorting to the bible.
The bible is a good source of information for a christian but one needs to learn to NOT use it when conversing.
This is similar to two persons in bar giving number and burst laughing. Each number corresponds to a joke they know so they understand. Everyone else is left out.
This is what you do.
Building walls around your faith is ridiculous, get out of that.
The bible is a good source of information for a christian but one needs to learn to NOT use it when conversing.
This is similar to two persons in bar giving number and burst laughing. Each number corresponds to a joke they know so they understand. Everyone else is left out.
This is what you do.
Building walls around your faith is ridiculous, get out of that.
It seems that you want to separate the Bible and the cross from Christianity... you can not do that. The Bible is the foundation to our faith in Christ. Without the Word of God we would not know God nor His plan of Salvation. Without the Cross, there would be no Christianity. What makes a true Christian? The Word of God and the Cross. What kind of Christian would we be without either?
It is not works that makes one a Christian. It is not your own righteousness that saves you. You don't want to hear Bible verses quoted or have anything to do with the Cross... so, what kind of Christian are you?
As I had said before... there are plenty of atheist who work harder and do just as much good for mankind as does a Christian. In fact, you would not know the difference unless you had ask, "Are you a Christian?" and most likely the come back would be a "Hell no! I am not one of those Christian nut cases!" It is not what you do outwardly that makes one a Christian but who you are inwardly, a believer from the heart.
Without the Word of God you can not be saved... without the cross you can not be saved.
Romans 10:9-10 says that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. For if Christ not be raised from the dead then our faith is in vain.
Dec 22, 2017 22:08:42 #
Bangee5 wrote:
It seems that you want to separate the Bible and t... (show quote)
No. I try to show that when speaking about god our personal experience and testimony has much more power than citing the scripture.
The bible IS important as a living book. On the other hand using the bible to argue about anything is worthless. The bible is a gift in the end of a testimony. Too many times folks argue whatever using the bible with folks who do not give a hoot about it because they cannot understand what wealth is hidden in there.
You very argumentation using it shows your weakness in arguing god changes lives.
You need to do this, testify. You need to claim your faith. Hiding behind the bible is what folks look for because they know everything will devolve into a rather idiotic argumentation on your side as soon as they push a little. You have faith and then you raise the bible with 'retro satanas!!!' This makes everyone laugh. Speak of god as a living entity, as a source of life and as a source of change. When asked for more then you can start to rely on the bible, not as a source of quotes but as a source of inspiration. Let the bible speak by itself. Do not speak for it, do not hide behind it.
You see I am not dismissing the bible at all. I dismiss the way most use it. Flinging it in peoples face is just wrong.
In one testimony one made an apology for not knowing more of the bible content. Why is that? Why is a christian feeling inferior? It makes no sense. Yet this is perpetuated when you go 'Romain 10:10' on me (the equivalent of 'going postal' for a christian).
Your answer not only shows your weakness when you try to communicate but you also demonstrate your fear or reaction when you say your are christian or when you ask if one is christian. Why the fear? Do you not trust christ to protect you?
It is not about what you do or how you do it. It is about who you are. If you are afraid of it... Then maybe you need to ask for what you need so that your fear stops. Ask christ to show you how to get the strength you need by praying first then open the bible randomly and read with your heart, not your mind. You will be surprised by what it will tell you.
Dec 23, 2017 01:22:09 #
Rongnongno wrote:
No. I try to show that when speaking about god ou... (show quote)
Thanks from all that straw that you used to try an dispute me but you do not know me. I study the Bible to know God and to teach others about the scriptures so that they can be better disciples for Christ. If you don't study the scriptures then you are like a blind man trying to lead the blind. You don't study the Bible as a source of inspiration but to know the will of God.
You say that we should not argue the Bible but here you are, arguing over the Bible, going postal on me by saying that I am afraid and I hide behind the Bible. So tell me... do you know the Bible? Can you quote verses and have an understanding of what those verses mean? Do you live your life by the very word of God. Do you, as the Bible tells us to do, study to show yourself approved?
Do you know that the New Testament is based on the Old Testament and that the apostles quoted the Old Testament extensively, as did Jesus? It is you who should not be afraid to quote the Bible. Meditate upon the scripture so that you can walk the Christian life and be Christ like before others. Join a Bible study group so that you can grow in the Word of God.
God Bless,
Dec 23, 2017 02:22:51 #
Not a mantra. I struggle every day. I do what I do because it is what I believe I am being asked to do by God. He directs me to places most people don’t wish to go. I didn’t wish to work with the lowest of the low, sex offenders, but that is where he is sending me. I struggle every day, but in the end I go, and I am blessed.
Dec 23, 2017 12:07:48 #
Bangee5 wrote:
Thanks from all that straw that you used to try an dispute me but you do not know me. .../...
This shows anger for no reason. I do not 'fight' and I do not know you, nor do I care to.
You just close yourself to something that you cannot comprehend and become defensive for no reason whatsoever.
What I am saying, time and time again is simple: Do not use the bible to argue about anything. It will always back fire. Not because the bible is weak, it is not, but because of your use of it is. Use your heart, use what you believe w/o support. Christ made you strong, if only you believe what he told you. Being able to read the bible for strength is important. Using it as a 'hammer' to force other folks to believe is wrong. You just become what is called a 'bible stomper' and dismissed just like that. Those who believe in god of course will not dismiss you those you are trying to reach? That is another story.
As I said already, if you want to know where this comes from, pray. Pray and open the bible and see what it tells you.
Either way, you will know.
Dec 23, 2017 12:11:20 #
EdR wrote:
Not a mantra. I struggle every day. I do what I do because it is what I believe I am being asked to do by God. He directs me to places most people don’t wish to go. I didn’t wish to work with the lowest of the low, sex offenders, but that is where he is sending me. I struggle every day, but in the end I go, and I am blessed.
I am glad you offered this. You fight against yourself to promote the world of god, to accept the mission given to you. And yes, you are blessed - by god.
Do you realize the power behind your statement? The true essence of being a christian is there.
Dec 24, 2017 00:43:20 #
d3200prime wrote:
I would advise those who replied to Rongnonogno to ignore his post and those who are thinking of giving an answer to
forget it. Just ignore Rongnonogno and this (like a gas bubble) will pass.
forget it. Just ignore Rongnonogno and this (like a gas bubble) will pass.
i agree. A circular waste of time and bad for the Gospel. His writing reminds me of the
Screwtape letters. I'm out.
Dec 24, 2017 15:43:56 #
tjim wrote:
i agree. A circular waste of time and bad for the Gospel. His writing reminds me of the
Screwtape letters. I'm out.
Screwtape letters. I'm out.
A very wise decision. His type are known as trolls and their only purpose is to keep the circle going. A never ending waste of reasonable peoples time and yes, very bad for the Gospel. Merry Christmas and God Bless!
Dec 24, 2017 15:58:40 #
And once again...
Do you really think your savior would approve what you do?
Oh yes, your savior is not mine. Mine would prevent me to do what you do.
And I can repeat this with many variations as you do not seem to understand. Remember what is said about folks being deaf and blind to the words of god. And no, I do have this pretense, just musing at your un-christian behavior.
Do you really think your savior would approve what you do?
Oh yes, your savior is not mine. Mine would prevent me to do what you do.
And I can repeat this with many variations as you do not seem to understand. Remember what is said about folks being deaf and blind to the words of god. And no, I do have this pretense, just musing at your un-christian behavior.
Dec 24, 2017 20:24:46 #
Rongnongno wrote:
And once again...
Do you really think your savior would approve what you do?
Oh yes, your savior is not mine. Mine would prevent me to do what you do.
And I can repeat this with many variations as you do not seem to understand. Remember what is said about folks being deaf and blind to the words of god. And no, I do have this pretense, just musing at your un-christian behavior.
Do you really think your savior would approve what you do?
Oh yes, your savior is not mine. Mine would prevent me to do what you do.
And I can repeat this with many variations as you do not seem to understand. Remember what is said about folks being deaf and blind to the words of god. And no, I do have this pretense, just musing at your un-christian behavior.
Silence......................maddening isn't it psycho babbler.
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