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Dec 21, 2017 08:00:38   #
wmcy Loc: Charlotte
 
OddJobber wrote:
Thanks for bringing that to my attention. A link would have helped.

I looked at about 10 of the many Chinese knockoffs, mostly well under $100. They all seem to be selling the same thing under different names, and NONE OF THEM even mention the MB-D18. They only mention the MB-D15 and alkaline batteries. No MB-D18, no 9 frames per second.

Check your facts.


I am not sure how well they work, but here’s the Nikon Rumors reference:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/items/?_nkw=Battery+Grip+For+Nikon+D850&_sacat=625&_ex_kw=&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_sop=12&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_sadis=&LH_CAds=&rmvSB=true&ul_ref=http%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Frover%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Ficep_ff3%253D9%2526pub%253D5574663212%2526toolid%253D10001%2526campid%253D5335893884%2526customid%253D%2526icep_uq%253DBattery%252BGrip%252BFor%252BNikon%252BD850%2526icep_sellerId%253D%2526icep_ex_kw%253D%2526icep_sortBy%253D12%2526icep_catId%253D625%2526icep_minPrice%253D%2526icep_maxPrice%253D%2526ipn%253Dpsmain%2526icep_vectorid%253D229466%2526kwid%253D902099%2526mtid%253D824%2526kw%253Dlg%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D1398297121489

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Dec 21, 2017 08:17:38   #
mkaplan519
 
I too was thinking about a 3rd party grip. I have always purchased originals. I did start to do some research though and there is really no 3rd party grip I can find info on that is as good. There seems to be a problem where they break and get stuck in the camera, with one user 's explanation I read where he literally had to cut off the grop. The screw gears disconnect (Top plate separates) and there is no easy way to take it off. Others have said some are ok but "I wouldn't hang the camera on a sling off one of the 3rd party grips". THhere are certainly comprimises made to make a cheap grip. Not only in materials but also design and testing. I really don't want to be their guinea pig with my camera hanging off my Peak Design sling strap, with it breaking and my D850 and 200-500 lens crashing to the ground. I think I'll stick to Nikon's, maybe overpriced but definitely great quality grip.

Also as mentioned, looking for a D850, try ANY of the smaller mom and pop stores. As an example, the store I buy almost all my photographic gear from here in Waterloo Canada, BJ Photo.
https://bjphoto.net/ProductList.aspx?Look=d850. They have them in stock.

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Dec 21, 2017 08:40:45   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
Hi Steve, what are the chances of you posting a few of your recent bird shots? Cheers!

Steve Perry wrote:
I can't speak to the D850's availability (it's gotta get better soon), but I DO know that many people have had good luck with their local dealers. Also, don't just check B&H and Amazon - try Roberts, Crutchfield, Best Buy, and even Wal-Mart (got a D800 from their website when no one else had one - just make sure it's Walmart selling it and not some third party).

As to the D850 vs D500 discussion, IMO a gripped D850 makes the D500 redundant. The D850's DX area is 19.4MP - pretty darn close (close enough) to the D500's resolution. I've not used used my D500 a single time since getting the D850 (and I've shot nearly 30,000 images with the D850, so I've been out and about). In my mind, the D850 has a D500 built right in. The D500 still beats a gripped D850 by 1 FPS and has a deeper buffer, but in reality those two factors have not affected my ability to capture BIF / action with the camera.

The way I use the D850 is when the subject is filling up the DX area, I start shooting (note, I'm not necessarily shooting in DX crop mode, just visualizing the area). As I close the distance, I keep putting more pixels on the animal until the opportunity fades away or I'm filling the FX area. This technique allows me to keep a single lens attached and not add TCs or switch to a DX or FX body based on distance as I did with the D5 and D500. (Heck, I hate to admit it, but I haven't used the D5 since getting the D850 either).

Naturally, there are time when I can't close the distance (or have the animal do it for me) and in those cases, I do put on a TC - but it doesn't happen nearly as often as it used to - and I don't miss opportunities while switching the gear up like I did in the past.

I just came back from FL and, honestly, I think I captured some of the best bird photos of my career with the D850 in hand.
I can't speak to the D850's availability (it's got... (show quote)

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Dec 21, 2017 08:48:20   #
ranman
 
I heard 1-3 months for the Nikon D850

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Dec 21, 2017 09:00:49   #
Jim Bob
 
ranman wrote:
I heard 1-3 months for the Nikon D850


That's probably a safe guess, especially for the big retailers.

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Dec 21, 2017 09:01:42   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
Feiertag wrote:
Hi Steve, what are the chances of you posting a few of your recent bird shots? Cheers!


Sure. I'm currently updating my computer system and some of these are works in progress as I don't have everything fully calibrated yet (waiting for my Eizo to come in today :). However, I think they show the D850 is more than capable of bird photography. The first three are earlier shots taken without the grip at 7FPS, the rest are more recent @ 9FPS (and I have hundreds more just like them that I need to process - I haven't even sorted / looked at the entire trip yet, these are just quick grabs that caught my eye). IMO, the D850 is the ultimate wildlife camera. It's not 100% perfect and there are times something like a D5 would be better, but for most shots the D850 is hard to beat.

Notes - the third photo is a sanderling, those little birds you find along the beach. If you've ever seen them, you know how fast they fly and how close you need to be to get enough of them in the frame for a photo - the D850 got the job done and at only 7FPS.

Also, note the reddish egret with the fish - sometimes they twist the fish around with their head to sort of "beat" it into submission and getting the egret looking at the camera is where 9FPS helps. Also, I was able to catch this egret and others as they flipped the fish in the air. This is something that you can do on rare occasion with a non-action oriented camera, but I was able to capture quite a few nice flips with the 9FPS of the D850. The truth is, IMO there's not a single shot below that would have been "better" with any other camera. Plus, on most of these I was closer than the DX area so I have between 25 ~46 MP files, depending on the photo. Most are over 30MP after any cropping.

PS - I also just did an article about how I got the two tern shots (actually. there are four total - two more at the site) that you may find of interest too: https://backcountrygallery.com/taking-terns/


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Dec 21, 2017 09:04:19   #
Jim Bob
 
Steve Perry wrote:
Sure. I'm currently updating my computer system and some of these are works in progress as I don't have everything fully calibrated yet (waiting for my Eizo to come in today :). However, I think they show the D850 is more than capable of bird photography. The first three are earlier shots taken without the grip at 7FPS, the rest are more recent @ 9FPS (and I have hundreds more just like them that I need to process - I haven't even sorted / looked at the entire trip yet, these are just quick grabs that caught my eye). IMO, the D850 is the ultimate wildlife camera. It's not 100% perfect and there are times something like a D5 would be better, but for most shots the D850 is hard to beat.

Notes - the third photo is a sanderling, those little birds you find along the beach. If you've ever seen them, you know how fast they fly and how close you need to be to get enough of them in the frame for a photo - the D850 got the job done and at only 7FPS.

Also, note the reddish egret with the fish - sometimes they twist the fish around with their head to sort of "beat" it into submission and getting the egret looking at the camera is where 9FPS helps. Also, I was able to catch this egret and others as they flipped the fish in the air. This is something that you can do on rare occasion with a non-action oriented camera, but I was able to capture quite a few nice flips with the 9FPS of the D850. The truth is, IMO there's not a single shot below that would have been "better" with any other camera. Plus, on most of these I was closer than the DX area so I have between 25 ~46 MP files, depending on the photo. Most are over 30MP after any cropping.
Sure. I'm currently updating my computer system an... (show quote)


My man. You wield a camera like a Samurai wields a sword.

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Dec 21, 2017 09:07:45   #
Steve Perry Loc: Sylvania, Ohio
 
Jim Bob wrote:
My man. You wield a camera like a Samurai wields a sword.


Thanks Jim :)

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Dec 21, 2017 09:11:09   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Incredibly impressive shots.
I could use them to lobby for the acquisition of an 850---but that involve a lie about my skill level.

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Dec 21, 2017 09:32:56   #
Yankeepapa6 Loc: New York City
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't know about the availability but I am surprised that you want to sell the D500 for the D850. The D500 is quite new.


But not new....new.

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Dec 21, 2017 09:47:50   #
Feiertag Loc: British Columbia, Canada
 
Steve Perry wrote:
Sure. I'm currently updating my computer system and some of these are works in progress as I don't have everything fully calibrated yet (waiting for my Eizo to come in today :). However, I think they show the D850 is more than capable of bird photography. The first three are earlier shots taken without the grip at 7FPS, the rest are more recent @ 9FPS (and I have hundreds more just like them that I need to process - I haven't even sorted / looked at the entire trip yet, these are just quick grabs that caught my eye). IMO, the D850 is the ultimate wildlife camera. It's not 100% perfect and there are times something like a D5 would be better, but for most shots the D850 is hard to beat.

Notes - the third photo is a sanderling, those little birds you find along the beach. If you've ever seen them, you know how fast they fly and how close you need to be to get enough of them in the frame for a photo - the D850 got the job done and at only 7FPS.

Also, note the reddish egret with the fish - sometimes they twist the fish around with their head to sort of "beat" it into submission and getting the egret looking at the camera is where 9FPS helps. Also, I was able to catch this egret and others as they flipped the fish in the air. This is something that you can do on rare occasion with a non-action oriented camera, but I was able to capture quite a few nice flips with the 9FPS of the D850. The truth is, IMO there's not a single shot below that would have been "better" with any other camera. Plus, on most of these I was closer than the DX area so I have between 25 ~46 MP files, depending on the photo. Most are over 30MP after any cropping.

PS - I also just did an article about how I got the two tern shots (actually. there are four total - two more at the site) that you may find of interest too: https://backcountrygallery.com/taking-terns/
Sure. I'm currently updating my computer system an... (show quote)


Thank you for your response and the priceless photos. I am very familiar sanderlings, having lived in Nova Scotia. They are extremely had to capture in flight. Good job, Steve.

I have read your Tern article a few days ago. I will be experimenting with the DX mode on my D850. Hopefully less noise at higher ISO. Right now, I still prefer my D5 in low light conditions.

Cheers!

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Dec 21, 2017 09:55:50   #
Laura72568 Loc: Anderson TX
 
Steve Perry wrote:
Sure. I'm currently updating my computer system and some of these are works in progress as I don't have everything fully calibrated yet (waiting for my Eizo to come in today :). However, I think they show the D850 is more than capable of bird photography. The first three are earlier shots taken without the grip at 7FPS, the rest are more recent @ 9FPS (and I have hundreds more just like them that I need to process - I haven't even sorted / looked at the entire trip yet, these are just quick grabs that caught my eye). IMO, the D850 is the ultimate wildlife camera. It's not 100% perfect and there are times something like a D5 would be better, but for most shots the D850 is hard to beat.

Notes - the third photo is a sanderling, those little birds you find along the beach. If you've ever seen them, you know how fast they fly and how close you need to be to get enough of them in the frame for a photo - the D850 got the job done and at only 7FPS.

Also, note the reddish egret with the fish - sometimes they twist the fish around with their head to sort of "beat" it into submission and getting the egret looking at the camera is where 9FPS helps. Also, I was able to catch this egret and others as they flipped the fish in the air. This is something that you can do on rare occasion with a non-action oriented camera, but I was able to capture quite a few nice flips with the 9FPS of the D850. The truth is, IMO there's not a single shot below that would have been "better" with any other camera. Plus, on most of these I was closer than the DX area so I have between 25 ~46 MP files, depending on the photo. Most are over 30MP after any cropping.

PS - I also just did an article about how I got the two tern shots (actually. there are four total - two more at the site) that you may find of interest too: https://backcountrygallery.com/taking-terns/
Sure. I'm currently updating my computer system an... (show quote)


Thanks so much for sharing these images! They are exquisite and as I learn more about BIF, I will be looking at your blog/website for inspiration! Stunning!

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Dec 21, 2017 10:01:37   #
DennisC. Loc: Antelope, CA
 
Thanks for the info, I just received the grip for my D850 and will be looking into that battery and charger combo.

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Dec 21, 2017 10:05:47   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
Steve Perry wrote:
Sure. I'm currently updating my computer system and some of these are works in progress as I don't have everything fully calibrated yet (waiting for my Eizo to come in today :). However, I think they show the D850 is more than capable of bird photography. The first three are earlier shots taken without the grip at 7FPS, the rest are more recent @ 9FPS (and I have hundreds more just like them that I need to process - I haven't even sorted / looked at the entire trip yet, these are just quick grabs that caught my eye). IMO, the D850 is the ultimate wildlife camera. It's not 100% perfect and there are times something like a D5 would be better, but for most shots the D850 is hard to beat.

Notes - the third photo is a sanderling, those little birds you find along the beach. If you've ever seen them, you know how fast they fly and how close you need to be to get enough of them in the frame for a photo - the D850 got the job done and at only 7FPS.

Also, note the reddish egret with the fish - sometimes they twist the fish around with their head to sort of "beat" it into submission and getting the egret looking at the camera is where 9FPS helps. Also, I was able to catch this egret and others as they flipped the fish in the air. This is something that you can do on rare occasion with a non-action oriented camera, but I was able to capture quite a few nice flips with the 9FPS of the D850. The truth is, IMO there's not a single shot below that would have been "better" with any other camera. Plus, on most of these I was closer than the DX area so I have between 25 ~46 MP files, depending on the photo. Most are over 30MP after any cropping.

PS - I also just did an article about how I got the two tern shots (actually. there are four total - two more at the site) that you may find of interest too: https://backcountrygallery.com/taking-terns/
Sure. I'm currently updating my computer system an... (show quote)


Steve, I am 99% NOT a bird person but your photos can not be ignored. They’re absolutely incredible and demonstrate the outstanding abilities of “man and his tools”.

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Dec 21, 2017 10:09:46   #
Red Sky At Night
 
I ordered a D850 from a store in Columbus Ohio and got it in less than a week. Someone ordered one two weeks ago from a store in Indianapolis and got it in a week and a half. Just make sure you know where they are coming from. I think the backlog is catching up.

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