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Dec 19, 2017 09:42:46   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Probably went to the lowest bidder...

Screamin Scott wrote:
Got a question for you Canon users, How many Canon cameras have gone up in space?

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Dec 19, 2017 09:43:51   #
FiddleMaker Loc: Merrimac, MA
 
BillyP wrote:
Well I shoot Canon... 5DIV and 70D, just don't post much.

If I could turn back the calendar several years and knew then what I know now, I would choose Canon over Nikon. But I would not choose the 5DIV because of the anti-aliasing filter. The 5DSR does not have one and so I would opt for that.

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Dec 19, 2017 09:48:43   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
PGHphoto wrote:
So Sorry - your claim was that no Canons have been in space. The c500 is not a 'video camera' - it is a cine camera - big difference but if your point is it is not specifically made to take stills I will give you that one (although the 4k stills that can be taken from the video are really high quality).

What you may have meant to say is that the high end cameras of choice in space are Canons and Hasselblads. The everyday common cameras sent are less expensive (cheaper) Nikons !

So now we can agree ! Not telling anyone that your Nikon is better or worse than my Canon gear, but the people who buy it by no means imply better quality. Especially when it comes to the government procurement process (dealt with it for a few years) ! That also applies to the Canon market share ! Sure it is a component of a purchase decision but its minimized when 2 very good brands are in competition.
So Sorry - your claim was that no Canons have been... (show quote)



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Dec 19, 2017 09:49:24   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Peterff wrote:
Canon may be better at 'marketing', but it is the market leader, which usually requires good product as well as good 'marketing'. Marketing certainly includes advertising and outbound activities, but it also includes understanding the market requirements and then bringing those products to market effectively. Running a good business that supplies things that people want to buy and can afford/justify the expense.

Canon took the market initiative lead from Nikon when they took the lead in autofocus technology in 1987 with the EOS system and EF lenses. It was a bold move since it broke compatibility with the older manual focus lenses, but it was a very successful move. If we look at the CIPA and BCN market data - which is not complete - it is clear that Canon covers more categories than most other vendors, and at least in Japan is doing very well with mirrorless cameras. There are many categories of consumers.

This is not say that Pentax, Leica, Olympus, Fuji, Panasonic, Sony, et al don't make excellent products that are the best fit for various individuals, as of course does Nikon, but Canon took the overall market leadership, and in some areas the technology leadership. Sony seems to lead in sensor technology currently, and Nikons use Sony sensors as far as I know.

Market analysis is a complicated area, and usually requires data and other information to reach a defensible conclusion. The publicly available information that we have on the camera market is patchy, it indicates trends, but stitching together a complete market model takes information that isn't in the public domain.

That much said, each of us should buy what we want and go use it.
Canon may be better at 'marketing', but it is the ... (show quote)


Yes, Sony sensors are used in many brands of cameras, Nikon and Pentax included, but this is a result of Sony's leadership in Electronics, not everyone trying to copy or mimic anything they do with their DSLRs. I rather miss Minolta.

I don't follow the masses, I've been a Penatx user since I started doing serious photography in 1978.

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Dec 19, 2017 09:54:40   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
And I thought it was pronounced Nick On...

Chris T wrote:
That's funny, G ...

I was in the park, the other day - there shooting with my D5300 ... and a lady came along with a huge old Nikon ... no idea what it was ...

Anyway, we got to talking ... and she kept saying Kneekon ... and I kept saying Nighkon ... it's surprising we even understood each other ....


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Dec 19, 2017 09:57:30   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Neither was Obama...

Chris T wrote:
Never happen ... wasn't born here ....

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Dec 19, 2017 09:59:44   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Chris T wrote:
Yup ... silly you, Bill ...

Because you haven't read the whole thread ...

If you had, you'd see it wasn't I who steered it in another direction ... it was Peter ...

I just followed along ....


A leader cannot lead until there are those who will follow.

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Dec 19, 2017 10:02:38   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Chris T wrote:
Sure you can, Sharp ...

If you pick one beginner model, one mid-range model, and one prosumer model - for each brand ... you can make a pretty fair analysis ...

That's what I did ... with Canon, Nikon and Sony APS-C DSLRs, anyway ... I think that's a pretty fair cross-section ....


Obviously someone with no understanding of statistics or sampling.

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Dec 19, 2017 10:05:42   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
FiddleMaker wrote:
I have also noticed far more Canons than any other brand when I am looking at the TV during any major event - be it a sports event or some political convention, etc.


On a recent trip to Alaska almost everyone was shooting Canon. There was one Sony (and he was getting some nice shots!) There were no Nikons. That's all.

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Dec 19, 2017 10:13:11   #
FiddleMaker Loc: Merrimac, MA
 
dsmeltz wrote:
On a recent trip to Alaska almost everyone was shooting Canon. There was one Sony (and he was getting some nice shots!) There were no Nikons. That's all.

Well........good to see that I am not hallucinating !!

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Dec 19, 2017 10:14:20   #
Quinn 4
 
Three cameras out of ten cameras I have are Canon: AE-1 / AE-1 Program and IVSB. ( which I looking to find someone to fix.). I have a total of ten lenses for the AE-1 & AE-1 Program. I have one Nikon F with three lenses. The other cameras are German made from the 1950s.

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Dec 19, 2017 10:14:38   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Probably went to the lowest bidder...


The whole Nikon in space had to do with the coatings on Canon lenses not being suited to space. So...Nikon may be more suited to space. Each camera design has to do with a market from the POV of the manufacturer. Canon makes lens and body combinations that satisfy a range of shooters (sports, wedding, portrait come to mind) with more participants than Nikon (I think studio and landscapes when I think of Nikon.) As a result, they sell more systems. I think Nikon has made some great strides in the last five years. But they have to overcome a HUGE user base already invested in Canon at a time when many new to photography are looking at mirrorless rather than DSLRs.

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Dec 19, 2017 10:33:08   #
FiddleMaker Loc: Merrimac, MA
 
dsmeltz wrote:
The whole Nikon in space had to do with the coatings on Canon lenses not being suited to space. So...Nikon may be more suited to space. Each camera design has to do with a market from the POV of the manufacturer. Canon makes lens and body combinations that satisfy a range of shooters (sports, wedding, portrait come to mind) with more participants than Nikon (I think studio and landscapes when I think of Nikon.) As a result, they sell more systems. I think Nikon has made some great strides in the last five years. But they have to overcome a HUGE user base already invested in Canon at a time when many new to photography are looking at mirrorless rather than DSLRs.
The whole Nikon in space had to do with the coatin... (show quote)

I am not new to photography but I did trade in my crop sensor Nikon D7000 for a mirror-less Fujifilm X-T2 24MP which I like. But Canon certainly does have a huge user base. No doubt about it.

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Dec 19, 2017 10:33:37   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
I have met two pro NFL photographers in the past 2+ years. They all used the Canon 1DX. This was before the release of the 1DX Mark 2. They all used "L" lenses. Most NFL photographers, not all, one claimed, use Canon Gear. However, Nikon's D5 is fully capable of doing the job too. With an array of Nikon premium lenses.

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Dec 19, 2017 11:22:25   #
ramblin21 Loc: Sharon,Wisconsin
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
As of Oct 2017 Canon still outsells every other camera manufacturer in the DSLR world at 54.7% of the market (compared to 39.1% for Nikon). I think your observation is inaccurate where users of one brand seem to squeak more than others. At any given moment in time, activity like new cameras / significant new lens designs generate noise for a period of time and then the focus shifts to the other vendor with their next release and so on and so forth ....


Well being a Canon user for years, I wished someone would have given me the same time with Nikon as i got with Canon, but since i am invested in Canon now it would not be wise to switch. But i have seen 1st hand the Quality that comes from Nikon an wished i had the opportunity to switch. 54/39 percentage is only that a percentage. How you view your abilities with any brand of camera is the deciding factor you choose. Again personal preference that is my 2 cents. Anyone care to shed some personal preference???

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