How often do you shoot in B/W? ... This pertains to both film and DSLRs ... (Page 8): Useful comment: "Filters over the lens also ruin the potential to use the raw image for a good...

anotherview Loc: California

Useful comment: "Filters over the lens also ruin the potential to use the raw image for a good color rendition. I’d rather fine tune my effects in post-processing."

The cameraman has far more control doing filters on digital photographs in post-processing -- way way more than in the film era.

burkphoto wrote:

I have tried it.

Red and yellow filters increase shadow noise a bit. My M4/3 camera is at a two stop noise disadvantage over full frame, so I want to fill the buckets to start, and empty them later.

Filters over the lens also ruin the potential to use the raw image for a good color rendition. I’d rather fine tune my effects in post-processing.

RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia

Chris T wrote:

Ya live and learn, huh, Marion?

Of course - if you shoot a series, containing both color and B/W images - of the same subject ... you never even need go NEAR PP ...

How about them apples!!!!!

That is if you are happy with the in-camera processing (as determined by the camera software designers).
I would rather make those decisions myself.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

Kmgw9v wrote:

Always shoot in color, often convert to B&W in post.

How often, Kmgw?

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

RichardTaylor wrote:

That is if you are happy with the in-camera processing (as determined by the camera software designers).
I would rather make those decisions myself.

Yes, but there are sooooooo many variations, possible, via the menus, Richard ... you can tailor ALL of it, to suit yourself - shooting Jpegs, that is ....

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

anotherview wrote:

Useful comment: "Filters over the lens also ruin the potential to use the raw image for a good color rendition. I’d rather fine tune my effects in post-processing."

The cameraman has far more control doing filters on digital photographs in post-processing -- way way more than in the film era.

This is true, View ... but on some dig cams ... the possibilities for changing things, at the time of shooting - are endless ....

RichardTaylor Loc: Sydney, Australia

Chris T wrote:

This is true, View ... but on some dig cams ... the possibilities for changing things, at the time of shooting - are endless ....

Not if you are shooting action in pouring rain, even if it is not raining and you are trying to catch "moments".

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

RichardTaylor wrote:

Not if you are shooting action in pouring rain, even if it is not raining and you are trying to catch "moments".

No, that's true, Richard ... this kind of experimentation should be done inside, perhaps, or only outside when it's dry, with moderate temps ....

anotherview Loc: California

Ditto:

RichardTaylor wrote:

That is if you are happy with the in-camera processing (as determined by the camera software designers).
I would rather make those decisions myself.

frjack Loc: Boston, MA

Shot many rolls of b&w with film. Shoot color now and convert. Oftentimes I go out with the intention of converting everything into b&w which forces me to think in a different way. Read an article in a photo magazine in the Charlotte Airport (when magazines were easy to find) suggesting that shooting in color and converting gives overall better results than shooting in mono. Can't really say if it does or not but I love the convenience of being able to switch.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

frjack wrote:

Shot many rolls of b&w with film. Shoot color now and convert. Oftentimes I go out with the intention of converting everything into b&w which forces me to think in a different way. Read an article in a photo magazine in the Charlotte Airport (when magazines were easy to find) suggesting that shooting in color and converting gives overall better results than shooting in mono. Can't really say if it does or not but I love the convenience of being able to switch.

Yes, me, too, FrJack ... but I prefer doing it in the camera, at time of shoot ... I mean, with SD cards now at 1TB ... why worry about space?

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

RichardTaylor wrote:

That is if you are happy with the in-camera processing (as determined by the camera software designers).
I would rather make those decisions myself.

The camera software gives you a pretty wide range of control over output. You just have to dive into the menus and NOT accept the defaults. Exposure and white balance need to be perfect, and then you can reap the benefits of menu manipulation. It’s called “pre-processing” in the pro world.

Some cameras also let you record in raw, then adjust the JPEG processing in camera before saving a JPEG. So there’s another level of control.

Yes, a computer can process raw images with MORE latitude, but at least you have options if you Read The *Fine* Manual.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

burkphoto wrote:

The camera software gives you a pretty wide range ... (show quote)

But .... Bill?

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Chris T wrote:

But .... Bill?

See edit.

Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England

burkphoto wrote:

See edit.

To quote you, Bill ....

"Some cameras also let you record in raw, then adjust the JPEG processing in camera before saving a JPEG. So there’s another level of control.

Yes, a computer can process raw images with MORE latitude, but"

wj cody Loc: springfield illinois

i use only film. 95% of my work is black and white. in formats including 35mm, 6x6, 6x7, 5x4 and 5x7
the only colour film i like to use is ektachrome on snowy days and agfa ct18, of which i have a freezer full.