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Dec 7, 2017 11:59:21   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Stand alone Photoshop programs that still work very well such as PS CS6 and CS5 cannot open raw images from the newer cameras such as the Nikon D500 or 850 because they are no longer being supported by the old CS programs. Consequently if one has a newer camera and chooses not to go with PS CC one has to have another provision to open raw files.

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Dec 7, 2017 12:04:10   #
HOT Texas Loc: From the Heart of Texas
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Stand alone Photoshop programs that still work very well such as PS CS6 and CS5 cannot open raw images from the newer cameras such as the Nikon D500 or 850 because they are no longer being supported by the old CS programs. Consequently if one has a newer camera and chooses not to go with PS CC one has to have another provision to open raw files.


That is very right, one of the many reasons I dropped Adobe photoshop and lightroom, however there are way's around it, it's just another step you have to go through.

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Dec 7, 2017 12:15:16   #
timcc Loc: Virginia
 
Rongnongno wrote:
How less onerous free can be?

If you are talking about time.... At least half of the time spent to compare trial versions is not lost since a program will be (hopefully) selected. As to you tube to compare? Not a good idea at all. You either have all out commercials for both programs or more or less competent folks offering tutorials. YouTube videos do not present capabilities or limitations of any program but the skills (or lack of it) of the presenter.

Now the amount and quality of tutorials can be a factor when making decision.

I apologize over this reply but one has to say what is what when it comes to making a choice. I just felt that some elements of your post where misleading.
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No apology necessary. The Youtube videos are all over the map, and the OP would have to be selective in deciding which are worthwhile. I found that watching good tutorials was tremendously helpful in climbing the learning curve for Capture One. I'm sure the same applies to Lightroom and Photoshop. Perhaps the best option is to try the trials, and use carefully chosen tutorials -- even those that also serve as commercials for the vendor -- to help navigate the trials. As I mentioned, the C1 webinars were invaluable to me for learning C1. No doubt Adobe and others have equally good tutorials for their products.

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Dec 7, 2017 12:34:01   #
timcc Loc: Virginia
 
Fotoartist wrote:
How much is Capture One?



The Capture One Express for Sony is free. To get the full suite of functions for Sony cameras, such as local adjustments, cost me $30 two years ago -- it may have gone up since then. Updates to the current version are free, but upgrading to the newest version (e.g., from Capture One Pro 10 to Capture One Pro 11) cost me $60 this year. The free updates occur about every 3-4 months, as I recall, and the new versions come out about once a year. If you do not need the new functions in a new version, you can simply keep using the version you already own. As of now, the program is a single-payment purchase, not a monthly subscription. I do not know what the current cost is for non-Sony users.

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Dec 7, 2017 15:43:41   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
I am a Sony user and therefor have C1. I also use PS Elements 14. They both have a learning curve. They both do things a little differently. If I had to hang on to one and not the other, I would keep C1 because it knows my equipment, cameras and lenses and automatically corrects for each. But to be honest, I do most of my correcting in Apple Photo on my Mac.

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Dec 7, 2017 16:40:08   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
I recommend Capture one. IMO it's the best RAW converters out there. I've tried five. I combine it with PS and Affinity Photo.

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Dec 7, 2017 19:17:27   #
PhotosBySteve
 
I have been a LR & PS user for about 8 years. I bought a Sony a year ago which came with a free copy of Capture One. I tried it for a while add n went back to LR. It is comparable to LR but in no way can it be compared to PS. It is okay as a LR replacement.

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Dec 7, 2017 21:16:21   #
chcollinsjr
 
I have decided to dump Adobe software since, in my opinion, Adobe has turned into a grasping group of control freaks and, though some of their software meets needs and performs well, the company’s treatment of customers ranks below that of a common pickpocket or tin pot dictator.
I would welcome other members' suggestions since I am researching the matter now. In return, I'll share whatever I discover.
Chuck

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Dec 8, 2017 15:23:39   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Fotoartist wrote:
How much is Capture One?

I looked it up on B&H and it is $299 unless you are a Sony user or are upgrading from a previous version, in which cases the prices vary but are significantly lower.

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Dec 9, 2017 07:00:14   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
WDCash wrote:
Would you, possibly, post an image after MR and after PS so that me and others on the steep up side can visualize what your saying. Please


I am not sure what MR is.

But here are two progressions of a raw file edited in Lr, then further enhanced in Ps. The first image is the middle of a focus stack, but you can see the general idea - once stacked, I adjusted contrast, did a mask to isolate the main subject from the background and treated the background differently - lower contrast and brightness, increased the contrast and local contrast on the main subject, etc.

The second series shows an unedited image, followed by Lr edits, and finally Ps edits.


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