explorer114 wrote:
I have read several excellent post. I loved photography in my youth, but I never pursued my interest. Back in the 1980s, I captured some really great shots at weddings and outdoors with an old 35mm camera. Fast forward to 2017, I really want to explore my love of photography. I hope to grow to an advanced amateur level at the least. I have saved $1000.00 to start my adventure. On the advice of several friends, I was considering purchasing a Cannon T6i. However, After reading some of the opinions on this site my mind is open to purchasing some used eqipment and/or a combination of new and used equipment. I need some advice. I want a camera and lenses that would allow growth. What is the fun of point and shoot. Photography is about creativity. I'm willing to learn about lighting and ISO etc.
Questions:
1. Nikon, Cannon, Pentax, Sony
2. Used body, new higher graded lenses or some combination
3. Best sites or stores to purchase from
4. Essential equipment to get started
Thanks for any advice, I really appreciate it.
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Canon T6i is a really good camera to start with... lots of "room for advancement", but also offers a lot of built-in automation and support while you learn. It should serve you pretty darned well for many years.
The T6i kit with EF-S 18-55mm "STM" and EF-S 55-250mm "STM" lenses is a good deal at $750. Or Canon USA is offering refurbished with EF-S 18-135mm "STM" lens for $650 (other kits are out of stock right now). Note: Canon makes three types of lens focus drive mechanisms. The cheapest and most basic is "micro motor" (lenses aren't labelled STM or USM). The STM lenses are step-up models... newer, faster and quieter focusing. STM also is generally considered the best for video. USM lenses are even faster and generally are the best choice for very fast action photography, but most are not as quiet or smooth running as STM so most USM lenses are not as ideal for video work. However, several newer Canon lenses are using what they call "Nano USM", that's both fast like USM and quiet/smooth like STM, so is great for both purposes. So far only EF-S 18-135mm IS USM, EF 24-105L "II" IS USM and EF 70-300mm "II" IS USM lenses use this new type of AF drive.
AVOID any kits with cheaper lenses... such as the non-STM models of both 18-55mm and 55-250mm. Also steer clear of the EF
75-300mm "III" lens (which is a micro motor lens that doesn't have image stabilization or particularly great image quality). The EF-S 55-250mm IS STM lens is MUCH better in all respects and only a little more expensive.
I see the newer T7i is on sale, too.... $1000 in kit with the EF-S 18-135mm IS STM lens, $800 with the EF-S 18-55mm IS STM lens, or $950 in kit with the EF-S 18-55mm IS STM and EF-S 55-250mm IS STM lenses.
I'll leave it to you to compare the T6i and the two-year-newer T7i in more detail, but basically both use a similar 24MP sensor and share many specifications and functions. Some key differences:
- T7i can shoot continuously a little faster... 6 frames per second versus 5 fps in the T6i.
- T7i has one stop higher settable ISO at 25600... versus 12800 in T6i (both are expandable one additional stop).
- T7i has faster Dual Pixel Auto Focus in Live View mode... T6i's hybrid contrast detection focus in LV mode isn't as fast, but is better than earlier contrast detect systems.
- T7i has a 45-point AF system when using the viewfinder (similar to 80D's)... T6i has 19-point (similar to 70D's, which in turn was slightly dumbed down from original 7D's).
- Both cameras have all "cross type" AF points, which are higher performance than single axis points used in some cameras. Both cameras have active matrix, transmissive LCD focus screens, which reconfigure themselves depending upon the focus area and mode being used. T7i has four AF area patterns: All Points, Single Point, Zone and Large Zone. T6i has three: All Points, Single Point and Zone.
- T7i's AF is able to focus in light levels as low as -3EV (moonlight) and has up to 27 "f/8 capable" points. T6i is able to focus as low as -1EV light level and is "f/5.6 limited". This essentially means that T7i has a bit more versatility with lens & teleconverter combinations. For example, an EF 300mm f/4 lens can be used with 1.4X teleconverter on both cameras... but on T7i that same lens also could be used with a 2X teleconverter, a combination that wouldn't be able to autofocus on T6i.
- T7i has slightly enhanced wireless connectivity. And T7i has somewhat improved power efficiency to get more shots per charge using the same LP-E17 battery.
$650 to $750 spent on camera and lens(es) would leave you some money toward other things. What you choose depends upon what you want to photograph. For example, if you like to shoot landscapes, cityscapes and seascapes, you might want a wider lens... and Canon offers the EF-S 10-18mm IS STM for a little under $300. Or, perhaps you like shooting macro and would want a lens like the Canon EF-S 60mm f/2.8 USM or Tokina AT-X 100mm f/2.8 FX, either of which sell for around $400. Or, perhaps you'd like to shoot portraits and/or want a large aperture/low light capable lens such as the EF 50mm f/1.8 STM or EF 50mm f/1.4 USM (approx. $125 and $330, respectively). You also might want a flash or two for portraiture, and various models of those are available for around $100 and up. (In multi-flash setups, the little $100 Canon 90EX can optically control other off-camera flashes. Otherwise the much more expensive 600EX-RT or 600EX-RT II or 430EX-RT III is needed to control other off-camera "RT" flashes via radio channels.)
Canon USA website is currently offering a "Portrait and Travel" two-lens kit that includes both EF-S 10-18mm IS STM and EF 50mm STM lenses for $350! As you can see from above, that's a good deal.
Also set aside some of your budget for other necessities. For example, you will need memory cards and may want a spare battery. The above Canon lenses don't include matching lens hoods, either, which I'd consider essential (if Canon OEM hoods are too pricey, there are cheaper third party "clones" such as Vello brand, that might do just as good a job).
Or, if landscape photography is your thing (as well as for some other things), you might want a good quality Circular Polarizing filter in the correct size(s) for your wide angle and/or standard lenses (less necessary for telephotos like the 55-250mm). C-Pol are the most useful filter for digital photography. Most other filters that were important when shooting film simply are no longer needed and can be duplicated pretty easily in post-processing software. C-Pol are one of the few excepetions. The EF-S 10-18mmm uses 67mm diameter filters and I think the EF-S 18-55mm uses 58mm diameter. I use and recommend high quality, multi-coated B+W MRC or Kaesemann MRC C-Pols (best quality for the price... about $65 to $75 for 67mm size or $45 to $60 for 58mm).
I DO NOT consider "protection filters" a necessity and would not recommend spending any money on them when the budget is especially tight, as yours is. Lenses are much tougher than most people realize and a thin piece of glass doesn't offer anywhere near as good physical protection as the lens cap that's provided or an optional lens hood. I have "protection" filters for most of my lenses, but they are so rarely needed that they spend about 99.5% of the time stored separately in my camera bag. I use C-Pol filters far, FAR more often.
Finally, Canon provides several software programs with their cameras, which you might find adequate. But you also may find them unable to do some things you'd like and want something better... in which case I'd recommend Adobe Elements as a reasonably priced, easy to use and versatile program to start out with. It's on sale for $60 right now. (Note: Elements "Premiere" is a separate program for video, that's often bundled with Elements for a bit higher price.)
I'm sure you can find similarly capable Nikon cameras, if you prefer (D5600 is most comparable to Canon T7i... and probably D5500/D5400/D5300 compares with T6i). Nikon's is also an excellent system. I have a number of vintage film Nikon's and manual focus lenses, but don't have hands-on experience with recent models and lenses, so can't make recommendations or comparisons. Pentax, Sony and Olympus all make some great stuff, too... though their systems simply aren't as broad-reaching and comprehensive as Canon or Nikon. It can be tough to decide comparing on paper. Sometimes it helps to go to a store that carries the cameras and compare in person. You can probably learn to use any of them well in time... but might find one or another just feels more comfortable and intuitive to use. Be sure to play around with them for a while, exploring menus and various functions as best you can in the store. It also may help you decide if you compare things you might want to add in the future.... beyond the "basics" to get started. For example, if you eventually want to add macro capabilities, what's offered in each system? Or, maybe you want to go shoot wildlife and should explore and compare the various relatively powerful telephotos offered in or for each system. Third party manufacturers make many lenses and other accessories for use with Canon and Nikon... somewhat less for Sony and quite a bit less for Pentax and Olympus right now. But they might offer all you'd ever want, in any system. So compare carefully and think in terms of buying into a system, rather than just buying a camera in kit with a couple basic lenses.