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Nov 15, 2017 11:29:29   #
Jim Bob
 
pego99 wrote:
D500 if you can learn D7500 if you can't.


Well that settles it. It would clearly be the 7500 for the original poster.

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Nov 15, 2017 11:51:19   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
cjc2 wrote:
According to something I just read, the D500 is going to be offered, as part of the Black Friday sales from Nikon, for $ 1800 INCLUDING the grip. I also feel the D500 is the best Crop Frame camera that Nikon makes. You might want to wait for this deal. Best of luck.


Thanks for the heads up. I saw that sale earlier this year (or was it late last year?) and I was hoping it would come back around. I am certainly willing to wait for such a deal.

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Nov 15, 2017 12:07:54   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Pegasus wrote:
Here's a trick for you; carry extra SD card. I have an extra one with the camera, it its own case. This is not rocket science.


Hey Einstein, an extra SD card will not do you any good when the images on the failed card in the camera can not be recovered and haven't been backed up.

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Nov 15, 2017 12:12:10   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
Earlier this morning, I took a walk with my Black Mouth Cur and my D5200 with my favorite lens the DX 18-140. I was wearing my prescription sunglasses, which are Polarized, of course.

The biggest problem I have with the D5200 when it's off AUTO (scenes), is that I can't easily see the information in the viewfinder. During this little test, I noticed that I can't see ANY of the information in the viewfinder with my sunglasses on. I know I can get that info from the panel, but that eats battery life.

I believe the control panel on the D500 is readily visible outside, with or without glasses? In the days of SLR, I could glance at the camera and know exactly how it was setup, I'm hoping the control panel would allow me that once again, without dining on the battery.

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Nov 15, 2017 12:19:56   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Hey Einstein, an extra SD card will not do you any good when the images on the failed card in the camera can not be recovered and haven't been backed up.


That is not what you were talking about when I replied to you earlier. Here was you post:
rgrenaderphoto wrote:

You will when, not if, your single SD card fails in the middle of the day when you're away from the cloud. It is only a matter of time before it happens.

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Nov 15, 2017 12:55:16   #
Yankeepapa6 Loc: New York City
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Hey Einstein, an extra SD card will not do you any good when the images on the failed card in the camera can not be recovered and haven't been backed up.


Does using a derogatory term like "Hey Einstein" make you feel superior in any way? Is this the only option for you?

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Nov 15, 2017 14:06:52   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
Go the D7500. It's a great camera that will let you grow into more sophisticated use without the frustration along the way. It's more friend friendly, has the shooting modes, and will still let you up your game when you feel up to it.

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Nov 15, 2017 18:33:38   #
ELNikkor
 
D7500 if you need another camera

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Nov 15, 2017 19:31:41   #
maren
 
Pegasus wrote:
If you want to recommend a FF, please don't.

I'm coming from a D5200. which has done very well for me over the last 4 years but is now getting in my way more often than not. Let me explain.

I've had an SLR of some kind since the early 70s, Nikon or Minolta. (Strange combo, don't ask.) My two favorite films were Kodachrome and Panatomic-F. I also used a lot of Tri-X when I needed film speed. I did a lot of B&W because I developed my own film and printed my own pictures. I would know the exposure needed for the film I used just by looking around and could set the camera accordingly very quickly and then refine the exposure in the viewfinder. All second nature, easy peasy. In time, and with work, family and changing interests, there came a series of P&S cameras to record the kids and the use of Kodacolor and photo stores for development and printing. The camera was always ready and available for pictures at a moment's notice and my wife could use it easily. Enter digital photography and at first it was a Coolpix then a D60 followed by a D5200. I acquired many lenses during that time.

I am much more into composition when possible. Examples of that is when I go walking somewhere with picture taking in mind. This is when I start fumbling with my D5200 trying to set the exposure to what I would like. The viewfinder is small so reading the shutter speed and aperture is an issue. Trying to change them is even more so. This camera is really oriented towards automatic exposure and providing set scenes is a good thing. Trying to exercise more control over the exposure is more difficult.

However, unlike most people here (or certainly the ones who state a preference,) I do make use of full auto and I like the scenes settings because it is brain dead and it works quite well the majority of the time. It also enables my wife and others to easily take decent pictures with my camera.

I was all ready to select a D500 as my next camera but I'm discovering that it does not seem to have a full auto setting and certainly it does not have the scenes setting, whereas the D7500 has all that as well as much better control over manual settings. Does that mean I could not have other people (who know nothing about photography) use the D500 or not even a have it for quick spur-of-the-moment pictures?

I am reading the huge owner's manual, but it's pretty dry when you don't have the camera in hand.
If you want to recommend a FF, please don't. br b... (show quote)

I purchased my D500 last April. I put it in "P" mode and shoot away. Birds in flight, you name it. I am just now getting to go to manual after being more comfortable with it. Don't worry about it being used in the "full auto" capacity. It is awesome. It can be used as automatically or manually as you choose. Maren

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Nov 15, 2017 19:37:36   #
Motorbones Loc: Fair Oaks, CA
 
Pegasus wrote:
Earlier this morning, I took a walk with my Black Mouth Cur and my D5200 with my favorite lens the DX 18-140. I was wearing my prescription sunglasses, which are Polarized, of course.

The biggest problem I have with the D5200 when it's off AUTO (scenes), is that I can't easily see the information in the viewfinder. During this little test, I noticed that I can't see ANY of the information in the viewfinder with my sunglasses on. I know I can get that info from the panel, but that eats battery life.

I believe the control panel on the D500 is readily visible outside, with or without glasses? In the days of SLR, I could glance at the camera and know exactly how it was setup, I'm hoping the control panel would allow me that once again, without dining on the battery.
Earlier this morning, I took a walk with my Black ... (show quote)

I wear prescription glasses and found the viewfinder on the D7500 to be user friendly. I can easily see the settings on the inside (as well as the full framing of the picture) not to mention they will also appear on the LCD scree on the back of the camera as well. I do not know what the battery life is on the D500, but the D7500 can be a little thirsty depending on what you do with it. I always carry 1-2 spare batteries with me, but have not as of yet run out of juice on a charged battery on any given day of shooting. It does drink juice a bit faster than my D5200 did, but then it does a lot more than it did. Again, I have no regrets about getting the D7500.

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Nov 15, 2017 20:04:22   #
tomcat
 
Pegasus wrote:
If you want to recommend a FF, please don't.

I'm coming from a D5200. which has done very well for me over the last 4 years but is now getting in my way more often than not. Let me explain.

I've had an SLR of some kind since the early 70s, Nikon or Minolta. (Strange combo, don't ask.) My two favorite films were Kodachrome and Panatomic-F. I also used a lot of Tri-X when I needed film speed. I did a lot of B&W because I developed my own film and printed my own pictures. I would know the exposure needed for the film I used just by looking around and could set the camera accordingly very quickly and then refine the exposure in the viewfinder. All second nature, easy peasy. In time, and with work, family and changing interests, there came a series of P&S cameras to record the kids and the use of Kodacolor and photo stores for development and printing. The camera was always ready and available for pictures at a moment's notice and my wife could use it easily. Enter digital photography and at first it was a Coolpix then a D60 followed by a D5200. I acquired many lenses during that time.

I am much more into composition when possible. Examples of that is when I go walking somewhere with picture taking in mind. This is when I start fumbling with my D5200 trying to set the exposure to what I would like. The viewfinder is small so reading the shutter speed and aperture is an issue. Trying to change them is even more so. This camera is really oriented towards automatic exposure and providing set scenes is a good thing. Trying to exercise more control over the exposure is more difficult.


I am not trying to insult your intelligence here my friend, because your background is a whole lot like mine. Started with B/W, then slides, and eventually into the D70. I took to digital like a duck to water from my slide film days. I would rent both cameras for a week and give them a try. I had a D7100, which I traded for a D500 and have never looked back. I would never return to the D7000-series of cameras because they don't hold a candle to the capabilities of the D500. It is a "mini-D5". The shooting and focus response times, low-light response, and noise levels are far and away better than the D7000-series. With all of your experience, I am surprised that you would be asking this question and even would not want a D500. My wife is from the P&S era and after I set up the D500 for her, she loves it (P, d-72, matrix mode, and auto-ISO) and she is a whiz. Man, this shouldn't be even a question that you are asking........

However, unlike most people here (or certainly the ones who state a preference,) I do make use of full auto and I like the scenes settings because it is brain dead and it works quite well the majority of the time. It also enables my wife and others to easily take decent pictures with my camera.

I was all ready to select a D500 as my next camera but I'm discovering that it does not seem to have a full auto setting and certainly it does not have the scenes setting, whereas the D7500 has all that as well as much better control over manual settings. Does that mean I could not have other people (who know nothing about photography) use the D500 or not even a have it for quick spur-of-the-moment pictures?

I am reading the huge owner's manual, but it's pretty dry when you don't have the camera in hand.
If you want to recommend a FF, please don't. br b... (show quote)

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Nov 15, 2017 20:17:26   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
I know this was mentioned, but didn't see a link to Nikon Black Friday ads

https://www.theblackfriday.com/nikon-blackfriday.shtml

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Nov 16, 2017 00:11:50   #
Chris T Loc: from England across the pond to New England
 
Pegasus wrote:
Earlier this morning, I took a walk with my Black Mouth Cur and my D5200 with my favorite lens the DX 18-140. I was wearing my prescription sunglasses, which are Polarized, of course.

The biggest problem I have with the D5200 when it's off AUTO (scenes), is that I can't easily see the information in the viewfinder. During this little test, I noticed that I can't see ANY of the information in the viewfinder with my sunglasses on. I know I can get that info from the panel, but that eats battery life.

I believe the control panel on the D500 is readily visible outside, with or without glasses? In the days of SLR, I could glance at the camera and know exactly how it was setup, I'm hoping the control panel would allow me that once again, without dining on the battery.
Earlier this morning, I took a walk with my Black ... (show quote)


Peg ... it sounds like you want to improve on the D5200, but are tossing up the value of going to a $1250 dig cam vs. one $1950.

Did you ever think you could make that improvement you wish to, without going near either one? ... There are many options in the D5000 line ... the D5600 / D5500 - both have Fully Articulating 3.2" Touch Screens, whilst the D5300 lacks Touch, but has the other, AND GPS.

The first two are a little more than half the price of the D7500 whilst the D5300 with GPS - can be bought for around $500, now .....


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Nov 21, 2017 22:45:02   #
grammabd Loc: Matagorda county texas
 
My first dslr was nikon d200....I LOVED it but never shot in raw due to advice from a friend that said jpeg was just as good. I kept it on "P" and never learned manual shooting. Now I need a lighter weight camera...and since I'm rural...camera shops are in Houston and I didn't want to drive there. So I ordered a d5500 and it is very light weight even wiith my favorite lens. I like the touch screen and the tilt screen and even the scene modes! But I started shooting raw with this camera and added Lr to my PSE 14 editing. Wish I had always shot in raw now that I see the difference. I do mostly scenery and grandkids, not a pro at all but love taking photos. Guess what I'm saying is get the one with the features YOU want and you will use those features and maybe learn a little more!
Grammabd

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Nov 21, 2017 22:45:04   #
grammabd Loc: Matagorda county texas
 
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