jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

This was news to me.

https://www.diyphotography.net/sexual-harassment-wedding-industry/

firtree Loc: Florida, USA

No surprises here. Ever heard the expression, "Instant @sshole, just add alcohol". The photographer is obviously not there to do a job, her sole purpose was to be a party favor for the guests, right? (insert sarcasm here). Sadly too many guys think that women are only on this planet for the amusement of men and treat us accordingly, in life and in our jobs.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

You sound bitter. In the work place and in public I have always treated women with respect, I have also worked with and for many supper intelligent woman. Not all men are defined by their sexuality some do have respect. Usually young men feel the need for conquest because some hidden message in masculinity says go out and conquer, but it depends more on their upbringing whether they act on it or not.

firtree Loc: Florida, USA

You are probably right, I am bitter (although I prefer anger to despair). But, not all guys are like you. I, personally, do not know one woman who has not been either harassed or assaulted at work or in her personal space. I also do agree with you about the upbringing part. One can only hope that the next generation with show more restraint and respect than most of the men I have had ill dealings with in my lifetime.

Jack47 Loc: Ontario

Mary Kate should have talked to both the bride and groom as soon as she realized this guy wasn't going to stop and told
Them "this stops now or I walk".
They should be responsible for all of the wedding party.......and their guests.

Jack47 Loc: Ontario

I feel bad for you. You must have met some real asses in your life.

veezee Loc: CT

Unfortunately, firtree has a lot of company; many, many women have run into some real asses. I and my colleagues found as women working in a male dominated field (engineering and construction) that a few men could be demeaning either sexually, intellectually (as in women are not smart enough), or both. Fortunately there were and are so many, many more men that treated us with respect and acceptance, and stood up for us. I will always be thankful for those who gave me the strength and confidence to stand up for myself. I hope the #metoo movement gives all women the confidence to stand up for themselves.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

There is no difference mentally between men and women, I have worked for some not so good same as men and some women that were superior to any men that I knew. I worked for one woman that was so intelligent that if she picked up a book on how to do brain surgery and I needed it I would trust her to do it. As I said mentally women are equal to men and if they are doing the same job as a man they should be paid equal to the male counterpart. As far as physical capability for heavy weight lifting jobs their are fewer women who can handle the job, not saying their are not any just fewer and as far as tedious or repetitive work most women can handle it better than most men. Just my opinion.

DrPhrogg Loc: NJ

Agree, but without some harassment clause in the contract, they can sue, claiming you defaulted. Read the article at the link.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

That doesn't really address the issue of men sexually harassing or assaulting women in the workplace.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

You are right and that type of behavior is wrong, maybe it has something to do with how men that do sexually harass woman are brought up, look at some of our former presidents including the idiot in there now, and I can speak of the John F. Kennedy as his father brought the boys up to disrespect women.

firtree Loc: Florida, USA

I do believe that it does have something to do with upbringing, but also in some inane sense of entitlement that many men seem to possess.

I stated earlier that I may have been "bitter", but after careful reflection, I have decided that I am not bitter, I am just angry about it. Everyone should be. We are talking about your friends, sisters, mothers, girlfriends and wives. Women are made to judge every man we encounter on a one on one basis, (friend or foe, good or shifty, trustworthy, or not). Men seem to judge women instantly with, "I could tap that, if I wanted", and then decide how to act towards her, and in many cases knowing the 'Good Ole Boys' network will protect them if they chose ill behavior.

Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC

You must hang out with the worst of men. Yes I know a few men that act the way you describe, however being a male in my 70's I have encountered more men like me who respect women than the type of men you describe. When I was young the sex drive was strong and the physical appearance of a woman was more important to me than her intelligence, but as I matured that became less important and what took over was a good healthy relationship with woman and when I met my wife (Married for 48 years to the same woman and never once cheated or thought about it) at age 24 I was ready to settle down and married at age 26.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

I don't think anyone is saying most men act this way. But it doesn't take a lot of serial sexual harrassers/abusers to make life difficult for a lot of women. And there are also men who wouldn't personally engage in this behavior who would look the other way if they saw others doing it.

firtree Loc: Florida, USA

I commend you on being one of the good ones, you are rare indeed and I suspect your wife knows it.

As far as who I hang out with, about the only man I regularly do anything with is my brother (who is the type of gentleman that you describe yourself to be. Oh, and my Down's Syndrome nephew, who comes every other weekend and all major holidays.). I have my own home based business now (after many years of working for others) and I currently do not have any employees. Thankfully, the dentists I work with now all seem to be a good bunch of guys and I have no issues with any of them. Older, divorced, not dating, and do Not hang out in bars. Still managed to get accosted by a stranger (what I now term a "Grope and Go") at Lowry Park, Zoo-Boo, by the stingray tank last year (I went with my brother and his wife.) When I reported the incident, although they apologized, they pretty much just said, "Oh, it happens." My question is why? Why do so many men violate the rights of women? Is it because they think they have the right to do so? What gives them that right? And why aren't more decent guys angry about it? They should be.