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Oct 2, 2017 17:35:08   #
dyximan
 
IBM I was offering an opinion based on my use and experience of these individual cameras, I'm curious as to your thought process as to why you would suggest he ignore someone who offered an opinion based on personal experience as opposed to those And or perhaps yourself who base it on personal opinion and not experience. I used all three cameras and viewed all photos using the same computer and system to compare apples to apples to apples

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Oct 2, 2017 17:53:56   #
IBM
 
dyximan wrote:
Are you suggesting that he just simply base his purchase on what he can afford whether he likes how it feels and whether it does what he wants it to or not. IMO I would suggest he ignore your post, Or at least consider the thought process or lack there of.


Forget the feeley touched stuff and just get it

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Oct 2, 2017 18:05:11   #
IBM
 
dyximan wrote:
IBM I was offering an opinion based on my use and experience of these individual cameras, I'm curious as to your thought process as to why you would suggest he ignore someone who offered an opinion based on personal experience as opposed to those And or perhaps yourself who base it on personal opinion and not experience. I used all three cameras and viewed all photos using the same computer and system to compare apples to apples to apples


I was quoting that long spel on page 8 , it was a bunch of confusing stuff for a new guy

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Oct 2, 2017 18:06:37   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
Advantage of staying with Pentax. All of your current glass can be used. I have a K-50 and use older lenses. Also with the image stabilization in the camera, rather than lens, all lenses automatically become stabilized.

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Oct 2, 2017 18:15:14   #
IBM
 
Motorbones wrote:
I would not necessarily agree with that. It depends on what you want or need. Research and compare. Two of the cameras I was comparing were the D7200 vs D7500 (D500 was the other but didn't want to spend that much). Each are great cameras and each one has its strengths. The D7200 is more affordable, but..... I went with the latter and have no regrets...


I read four reports on the d7500 and sure they liked it utilizes every one said they would pick the d7200 before they spent money on the d7500 , just for what new one lacks , video. Lower iso among a couple other things

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Oct 2, 2017 18:17:04   #
jjbrenner Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
canyondweller wrote:
thank you. I was leaning towards Canon and I think you just gave me more reason to persue that brand


SS said it better than I ever could. I've been a Canon man from the get-go, and have absolutely no regrets. Welcome to the forum, and very best wishes for many great images captured with whatever camera you choose.
Jim

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Oct 2, 2017 19:25:15   #
crazydaddio Loc: Toronto Ontario Canada
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
There is a dearth of lenses available for the Pentax K-1 see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIVfRji8JMM&t=348s

It depends on what, really, you want to do. As a DSLR user, I would ask yourself what type of photography you want to accomplish once you convert to digital. Cannonites and Nikonistas will argue the fine points in succeeding posts (and don't even bring up Sony Fanboys), but really (really) modern DSLR's are pretty easy to use, once you get beyond the plethora of buttons, menu items, etc. The learning curve is about the same for Canon or Nikon.

I'm a Nikon shooter, so my bias will recommend a D7200 with the kit 18-140 lens; B&H has this for $1300. This is a great place to start. The kit lens is not the greatest in the world, but it will allow you to get comfortable with the technology before you decide a more advanced lens.

Now, everybody else tell me who wrong I am. :-)
There is a dearth of lenses available for the Pent... (show quote)


You are not wrong....Nikon value for money is better in the low end IMHO, and better dynamic range in the bodies.... canon has better lenses in the mid - high end.
....and the Sony fanboys are increasingly being right with each successive release....not right yet due to reliability, boot times etc but wow, tough to argue against the most recent releases for features and IQ....

D7200 with kit is great value for the money. Canon 80D with 18-135STM will also keep you busy learning....
difference? D7200 has better dynamic range, 80D has a bit better fps and has a touch/flip out screen....

enjoy whatever you choose.... :-)

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Oct 2, 2017 20:27:18   #
DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina
 
You"apparently know a tad about cameras and photography, so why don't you go to your favorite photo shop and ck out the latest and greatest that meet your camera reqs and your price point. Only you can make your decision.

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Oct 2, 2017 20:40:26   #
IBM
 
dyximan wrote:
IBM I was offering an opinion based on my use and experience of these individual cameras, I'm curious as to your thought process as to why you would suggest he ignore someone who offered an opinion based on personal experience as opposed to those And or perhaps yourself who base it on personal opinion and not experience. I used all three cameras and viewed all photos using the same computer and system to compare apples to apples to apples


Have you really taken note of what you wrote, he just wants a camera not the life history or a story that goes on and on ,
It was a task for me to stick with the paragraph, and I read for hours every day , and if I came across this in 1964 I may have never
Bothered to buy a SLR .

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Oct 2, 2017 20:50:37   #
jdkoerner Loc: New Yori
 
When I made the same transition to digital, having used both a Minolta and an Oympus Pen [the Minolta had a light meter and a split image range finder, the Olympus neither] I thought I would get the camera of my dreams, the brand I most coveted, a Nikon.

Turned out I bought a Canon. And it was really a how it sat in my hand type thing. Like one car being more drive-able than another. Totally subjective, but over time I learned that in fact the placement of the buttons and the read outs and later the live view /program screen were all well placed and easy to adapt to.

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Oct 2, 2017 21:23:04   #
IBM
 
jdkoerner wrote:
When I made the same transition to digital, having used both a Minolta and an Oympus Pen [the Minolta had a light meter and a split image range finder, the Olympus neither] I thought I would get the camera of my dreams, the brand I most coveted, a Nikon.

Turned out I bought a Canon. And it was really a how it sat in my hand type thing. Like one car being more drive-able than another. Totally subjective, but over time I learned that in fact the placement of the buttons and the read outs and later the live view /program screen were all well placed and easy to adapt to.
When I made the same transition to digital, having... (show quote)


This going good to a camera store and feeling how it feels in your hand is a waste of time , read up on different camera's. Buy some camera mags , learn the jargon from the ground up fstop, shutter speed , iso and all the rest , what each do and how to adjust the main ones , , then when you find one that you may like and buy , check it out ,buy it . take pictures with it set on auto .
Go home bring up each picture on screen , write down what auto choose for your main settings , go back and and set them
manual and see if you can do better than what camereas auto picked, or just stay in that same spot and make changesure
Untell there better than auto or program mode

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Oct 2, 2017 22:55:53   #
barryboynz
 
Before you by one brand or the other then possibly regretting things at a later date,bear in mind that while most people regard a camera as an instrument that records the subject in front of it,in most cases it is recording the image being received by the brain behind it. My advice. Look around for a good second hand outfit.Learn the ins and outs of handling a camera and lenses, composition and get an understanding of photographic theory.Maybe join a camera club. Then,when you know what suits YOU best and not somebody else,go ahead and get your dream machine. Far too many people fall into the trap of getting the BEST camera only to find out later that it's the photographer that takes the picture,the camera is just the tool that is used for the process. Barryboynz .

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Oct 2, 2017 22:59:38   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
There will be a learning curve no matter what system you use. My advice: choose a system and stick with it. As to lens choices, Tamron and Sigma make great third market lenses for both systems, I suggest your seriously consider either one when you get ready to expand your lens arsenal.

by the way, My k1000 is also still working; it's built like a tank! While it was a fully manual camera, it did have a great through the lens metering system, if you knew how to use it (and the battery wasn't dead!)

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Oct 2, 2017 23:00:15   #
Motorbones Loc: Fair Oaks, CA
 
IBM wrote:
I read four reports on the d7500 and sure they liked it utilizes every one said they would pick the d7200 before they spent money on the d7500 , just for what new one lacks , video. Lower iso among a couple other things


I'm not sure where you're coming from. D7500 has 4K Video (there is one feature about the video that isn't as good, can't remember what it is), increase in burst capability, and a higher ISO.... It's biggest criticisms are the lack of a second card slot and a slight drop in megapixels. It has the D500 sensor, shoots faster and has some other features I like (the tilt screen is very handy). One is better for sports and the other for wildlife... etc., etc., etc... last word, personal touch. Both are great cameras, but the expert reviewers aren't paying for my camera... I love my D7500...

Maybe we ought to get back the question at hand and save this discussion for elsewhere....

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Oct 2, 2017 23:18:47   #
Pilot
 
IBM wrote:
This going good to a camera store and feeling how it feels in your hand is a waste of time , read up on different camera's. Buy some camera mags , learn the jargon from the ground up fstop, shutter speed , iso and all the rest , what each do and how to adjust the main ones , , then when you find one that you may like and buy , check it out ,buy it . take pictures with it set on auto .
Go home bring up each picture on screen , write down what auto choose for your main settings , go back and and set them
manual and see if you can do better than what camereas auto picked, or just stay in that same spot and make changesure
Untell there better than auto or program mode
This going good to a camera store and feeling how ... (show quote)


Now I know what I've been doing wrong when I buy a new car. I should read the brochures of each car on the market, check out the specks and instructions, forgo the test drives and just buy the car I think I'll like. Then, take the car out and play around with it and see what it will or won't do. If it won't do what the specks said it would, I'll just keep playing with it until it does. If, in spite of all I do to that car I still can't make it perform, then maybe I should just quit driving, sell the car and take a loss.

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