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Oct 2, 2017 12:52:19   #
Motorbones Loc: Fair Oaks, CA
 
As a person that reentered photography about 4 years ago I can offer you this. I suggest you focus more on what you want the camera to do as opposed to the brand you buy. Canon, Nikon, and Pentax are all great cameras. My first SLR was a Pentax Spotmatic IIa I bought just before graduating high school in 1972. I suggest you focus more on what you want it to do balanced with what you're willing to spend, you'll make a better choice for yourself. I'm on my third camera body in four years, but finally have what I want. I shoot Nikon. I could have just as easily went with Canon. Who sells the most or what government agency uses, or even what do the pros prefer 5 to 1 are not the best reasons to select. Pick what will do the best job for you for the best bang for the buck.

Probably the best starting point is how much are you willing to spend for what you want it to do? Do lots of research and take notes. Revisit reviews as needed until one becomes a clear choice. I took three months to choose my current camera as I was balancing three particular models back and forth. Being an amateur, I didn't need the drop dead best one out there, just the best for what I wanted to do for the money I was willing to spend. You won't be buying a camera for anyone else on this forum to use, so it's your opinion that will matter most. If you take the time to select (and no not necessarily a year or two) you stand the greatest chance of buying what you really want or need the first time around. Finally, realize that lens selection is also as important as body selection and for some even more so. Buy lenses can get expensive as well. Full frame, cropped, or mirrorless should be included with your decision and as many have already said, Pick up a few and see how they feel in your hands. You can even rent some models and test them out. Once you get the camera you want , take the time to learn what it can do and focus on the features you want control over. Most important of all... take lots of pictures and have as much fun as you can doing it. As you plug along there are a lot of great people here that can help you become a better photographer... There's also a lot of three dollar opinions as well and some can be really useful...

I am now shooting with what works great for me, does what I want it to do and with the best lens for my needs... I also have two decent back-up cameras to use....

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Oct 2, 2017 13:10:54   #
Gregger Loc: Phoenix area
 
canyondweller wrote:
I bought my first SLR back in 1978. It was a Pentax K1000. Fully manual film camera. I still have it. I am finally ready to move into the digital world. There is so much information out there that it is overwhelming. I am trying to decide which is the better choice of camera for me. I am a hobby photographer. I take all kinds of pictures. I would like to know if one is easier to use than the other. I also want to look at cost of ownership. Are lenses more expensive for one brand than the other. Is there regular maintenance required.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
I bought my first SLR back in 1978. It was a Penta... (show quote)


I don't know your age, but I have converged to Bridge Cameras. I just purchased a Sony RX10 m3. Received it on Saturday. It has a one inch sensor which give better IQ. My only draw back is it is a bit heavy when fully zoomed. I have a micro 4/3 Olympus EP-5 and it also is a great camera. I just don't enjoy changing lenses anymore. The Sony zooms from 25-600mm. Sony is coming out with a m4 this month, but I believe it is $1600-$1800. The Nikon P900 which I don't own, but have read it will zoom to 2000mm. Great for being a bird watchers. I have seen some of the photos and they are very good. It just has a small sensor.

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Oct 2, 2017 13:24:43   #
phildee Loc: Oceanside, NY
 
I am also an amateur photographer Nikon does seem superior but is much more expensive than Canon products. Quality is similar but Nikon has more upper end.Good luck!

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Oct 2, 2017 13:40:04   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
dsmeltz wrote:
If I had it to do over again, I would give mirrorless a serious look. There are more and more good lenses that will work with these cameras. If you are starting out in digital right now and get a mirrorless with a few basic lenses, by the time you are ready for much better glass, which might not be there right now, the glass will come.


Buying one of the mirrorless brands that can adapt Canon EF lenses, using a “smart adapter,” or “SpeedBooster,” is one way to hedge your bets. Sony, Olympus, and Panasonic can do that with many of their cameras.

Most of the essential focal lengths are available now. Native Micro 4/3 lenses reach out to 800mm full frame equivalent field of view. There are many pro grade lenses for Olympus, Panasonic, Sony, and Fujifilm mirrorless bodies. Most manufacturers also have less expensive lenses for casual users.

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Oct 2, 2017 14:18:03   #
GeneG
 
My first SLR was an Exakta VX in 1955. I have had both Nikons and Canons over the years, and I now use a Nikon 7500, which I highly recommend. My advice is to look at various models, see what feels comfortable in your hand, and buy one. No matter which camera you choose, it should be easier to handle than your manual film camera, and many of the modern lenses are superior to the older ones. Please remember that the most important component of the photographic system is the eye behind the viewfinder.

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Oct 2, 2017 14:31:51   #
Pilot
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
You will not get an "educated" response---a least a definitive one. If you are serious, do much research, and then flip a coin.
Here is a normal response: I vote Nikon, because that is what I shoot.


I vote Canon because that's what I shoot.

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Oct 2, 2017 14:32:43   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Edia wrote:
A plague on both their houses. Nikon and Canon make great DSLRs but the handwriting is on the wall. Mirrorless cameras are the future of photography. Watch a press conference on TV and listen to the noise of the mirror slaps from the DSLRs. It is annoying and distracting. Technology does not stand still and the future for DSLRs is like that of electric typewriters. Even Nikon and Canon are working frantically to produce good mirrorless cameras. Mirrorless cameras are lighter, smaller, have less moving parts and are cheaper to manufacture. It is only a matter of time before DSLRs are surpassed by mirrorless cameras.
A plague on both their houses. Nikon and Canon mak... (show quote)


Funny how the flowers and mountains I photograph don't complain about shutter and mirror sounds. Cell phones add fake sounds so you know you made an exposure.

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Oct 2, 2017 14:33:54   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
Both are good cameras. I found the customer service with Nikon to be lacking (to say the least) I recently found that different Nikons have different set-ups ( a friend needed to reset something and a fellow Nikon went to help and found he couldn't because he had a different model. Both current models) . Canon seems to follow colsest to each other. Both are good and external stuff, bot OE and expensive are available. Go to a store and handle them.

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Oct 2, 2017 14:41:51   #
IBM
 
canyondweller wrote:
I bought my first SLR back in 1978. It was a Pentax K1000. Fully manual film camera. I still have it. I am finally ready to move into the digital world. There is so much information out there that it is overwhelming. I am trying to decide which is the better choice of camera for me. I am a hobby photographer. I take all kinds of pictures. I would like to know if one is easier to use than the other. I also want to look at cost of ownership. Are lenses more expensive for one brand than the other. Is there regular maintenance required.
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
I bought my first SLR back in 1978. It was a Penta... (show quote)


Your k1000 was a full frame if you want the same it's about $1500 more than the DX camera . So are you looking at a dx crop factor camera or a full frame as your pentax was ????

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Oct 2, 2017 15:09:35   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
IBM wrote:
Your k1000 was a full frame if you want the same it's about $1500 more than the DX camera . So are you looking at a dx crop factor camera or a full frame as your pentax was ????

In case the OP is unfamiliar with current terms, we should mention that Nikon uses "FX" to denote what everyone else calls "FF" or ""Full Frame", and "DX" to denote what everyone else calls "APS-C" or "crop" cameras. "FF"sensor is same size as 35mm slide, while "APS-C" is about 2/3 that size.

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Oct 2, 2017 15:13:34   #
IBM
 
Peterff wrote:
Perhaps if you formulated your question and title a little more carefully you would receive more informed, or at least more focused responses.

Secondly, you did get feedback, and yet apparently did not appreciate it as you said you would.

In answer to your questions: "I would like to know if one is easier to use than the other. I also want to look at cost of ownership. Are lenses more expensive for one brand than the other?" The simple answer is yes, to all over the above. The more complicated answer is, it depends.

Perhaps you could start over with a little more thought and detail.

What do you mean by easier? What do you consider to be a reasonable cost of ownership? What do you mean by expensive? Some brands have "equivalent" lenses available that vary hugely in price, depending upon quality and capability, and what it means to you personally.
Perhaps if you formulated your question and title ... (show quote)


Also if your pentax still works after all these years ,then your not taking many pic a year ,I would guess under 500 a year , so you defently don't need a full frame for $3000 to $6500 pluse you still have to buy lenses also , that would be $5000 minimal to start
The only easier thing you can do is put what ever you buy ,set it to auto or program mode , and fire away ever shot you take wil
be just as good or better than every shot you have ever taken with your pentax 1000 ,do what the few have said buy the
Nikon D2200, or the equal money on the canon , and get a refurbished one ,there good , also save a bundle of cash , or spring for the D500 , but as much as I would like one I would still get the refurbished d2200. Wait for the d500 to start selling the refurbished
Ones in a couple years for half of what they are now. Or was that the d2100 it is also good

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Oct 2, 2017 15:14:31   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Edia wrote:
A plague on both their houses. Nikon and Canon make great DSLRs but the handwriting is on the wall. Mirrorless cameras are the future of photography. Watch a press conference on TV and listen to the noise of the mirror slaps from the DSLRs. It is annoying and distracting. Technology does not stand still and the future for DSLRs is like that of electric typewriters. Even Nikon and Canon are working frantically to produce good mirrorless cameras. Mirrorless cameras are lighter, smaller, have less moving parts and are cheaper to manufacture. It is only a matter of time before DSLRs are surpassed by mirrorless cameras.
A plague on both their houses. Nikon and Canon mak... (show quote)

Part of that noise is mirror, but part of it is shutter. Many MILC's also make shutter noise; if they don't then they'll have other issues from an "electronic shutter". I'm not bothered by that sound - mirror/shutter noises and flashes tell us something important is happening. My Pentax K-30 is noticeably less noisy than my Pentax Super Program was; I'm guessing any modern DSLR makes less noise than the K-1000 that the OP was familiar with.

added: DSLR vs MILC is one of those things people argue about similar to Canon vs Nikon.

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Oct 2, 2017 15:18:35   #
IBM
 
IBM wrote:
Also if your pentax still works after all these years ,then your not taking many pic a year ,I would guess under 500 a year , so you defently don't need a full frame for $3000 to $6500 pluse you still have to buy lenses also , that would be $5000 minimal to start
The only easier thing you can do is put what ever you buy ,set it to auto or program mode , and fire away ever shot you take wil
be just as good or better than every shot you have ever taken with your pentax 1000 ,do what the few have said buy the
Nikon D2200, or the equal money on the canon , and get a refurbished one ,there good , also save a bundle of cash , or spring for the D500 , but as much as I would like one I would still get the refurbished d2200. Wait for the d500 to start selling the refurbished
Ones in a couple years for half of what they are now. Or was that the d2100 it is also good
Also if your pentax still works after all these ye... (show quote)


Change that above to D7200 , getting old it , it's better than the d7500 or what ever is taking its place as the new is missing stuff
Video and some other stuff ,

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Oct 2, 2017 15:31:05   #
IBM
 
SharpShooter wrote:
There's still one on the moon?
Well H*ll, there ya go, there's the next Everest, just because it's there!!! LoL
SS


I think they left two on moon , every ounce of less weight counted

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Oct 2, 2017 15:38:09   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
rehess wrote:
Part of that noise is mirror, but part of it is shutter. Many MILC's also make shutter noise; if they don't then they'll have other issues from an "electronic shutter". I'm not bothered by that sound - mirror/shutter noises and flashes tell us something important is happening. My Pentax K-30 is noticeably less noisy than my Pentax Super Program was; I'm guessing any modern DSLR makes less noise than the K-1000 that the OP was familiar with.

added: DSLR vs MILC is one of those things people argue about similar to Canon vs Nikon.
Part of that noise is mirror, but part of it is sh... (show quote)


Many mirrorless cameras have the option to use an electronic shutter OR a mechanical shutter. They also have the option to turn "shutter noise simulation" on or off.

My Lumix GH4 is totally silent in electronic shutter mode when the artificial shutter noise is turned off. It is wonderful for theater photography, and candid work anywhere noise is unacceptable. I don't use it for action, so I don't run into the "rolling shutter" phenomenon. Almost anywhere I'm photographing rapid action, noise does not matter, so I'll use the mechanical beast.

The electronic shutter has another advantage... SPEED. The new GH5 can record 60 4K stills per second, or 30 "6K" stills per second. That adds a whole new dimension to the "spray and pray" photographic strategy.

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