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Sep 30, 2017 01:21:38   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Don.Y wrote:
I was wrong MFT & 4/3 sensors are the same size , however, the lens mounts are different. You can use 4/3 lenses on a MFT system with the use of an adapter that is readily available on eBay. You can't do this the other way around. You can also use Panasonic MFT lenses on your Olympus MFT camera without any adapters. The mounts and connections are the same.


Yes, I know that about the lenses. ;) 43 and M43 are great formats.

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Sep 30, 2017 02:44:50   #
alawry Loc: Timaru New Zealand
 
Extremely well said. THumbs up.



bikertut wrote:
As a rank amateur, I have only been taking photographs since buying my Asahi Pentax Spotmatic while in the Navy in Japan (1968). I didn't take as many photographs in the Far East as I should have due to the cost of film and limitations of a sailors pay. I liked Fuji film as it gave me brilliant colors. But things were hit or miss as to whether I got the shot. I took a picture and hoped that my exposure and composition was right. If I knew what composition was.

Although digital plays greatly to the "instant gratification" crowd, it is also such a wonderful teaching tool. I can review, delete, and reshoot without the time and expense of film.

Without digital and the non-expense of experimentation, this rank amateur wouldn't be spending part of his retirement reading UHH and enjoying this fine hobby.

Steve, Nikon D3100, Nikon 18-200

PS - my hearing is no longer acute enough to distinguish between my 500 vinyl records and my 300+ CDs. It all sounds like music.
As a rank amateur, I have only been taking photogr... (show quote)

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Sep 30, 2017 11:34:25   #
planepics Loc: St. Louis burbs, but originally Chicago burbs
 
Before my time there was reel-to-reel. Actually, I do remember one being used, in my HS lit/comp class (which I had to repeat to graduate). The sound quality is supposed to be excellent, but I've never heard any music played on one. I suppose it would be best for something like symphonic music.

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Sep 30, 2017 15:24:02   #
Don.Y Loc: East Ballina,NSW.,Australia
 
I did a Roadies ( for bands) course in 1984 & for one day we spent time in a recording studio that used I think it was 2" tape on their reel to reel machines. The sound from the reel to reel really was excellent.

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Sep 30, 2017 16:02:15   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
Don.Y wrote:
I did a Roadies ( for bands) course in 1984 & for one day we spent time in a recording studio that used I think it was 2" tape on their reel to reel machines. The sound from the reel to reel really was excellent.


2" open reel studio recorders can have up to 24 tracks and can run at speeds of up to 30 inches per second. Awesome gear!

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Sep 30, 2017 16:09:23   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
planepics wrote:
Before my time there was reel-to-reel. Actually, I do remember one being used, in my HS lit/comp class (which I had to repeat to graduate). The sound quality is supposed to be excellent, but I've never heard any music played on one. I suppose it would be best for something like symphonic music.


Reel to reel had superior performance to cassette, Cassette performance vastly improved with Dolby and CrO2 "chrome" tape. Since Cassette was less expensive and more convenient (imagine a reel to reel Walkman! LOL). It took over the home audio recording market in the 80s. Reel to reel enjoyed a longer life with studios, radio stations and audio nerds (like me 😉).

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Sep 30, 2017 17:11:38   #
Kuzano
 
Kmgw9v wrote:


A badly decaying or decomposing corpse with a camera on a neck strap. Via Zombiism they may still be able to compose and snap. However they do require brain snacks to use either the menus or dials on their camera's.

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Sep 30, 2017 17:23:45   #
Kuzano
 
Don.Y wrote:
Thanks for the reply. The A3 prints from the 5MP Olympus are fine even when viewed from a close distance. Sorry I think I got the model of the Olympus wrong. It's actually an E-1. I've also got an E-3. I am actually using the E-3 ( sensor shift anti shake ) more than my other cameras which are Canon's, Nikons, Pentax & Fuji DSLR'S. I also have compact cameras of many brands that I rarely use. I'm slowly donating the compacts & film cameras to an Op Shop that is run by the local rescue helicopter organization. It's a good cause.
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The sensor in the E1 Pro was a Kodak sensor notable for it's color rendering and used in Portrait Studios. If I recall, the E3 and later DSLR bodies used Panasonic sensors, losing some of the rendering of the original Kodak. The ensuing Kodak sensors in the Evolt E300, E500 and E400 were higher megapixel and never quite rendered the colors found in the 5.1 Mp E-1.

I've owned a number of each models, but not one of them, while creating some excellent images, ever matched what the original E-1 using that lessor mp sensor was able to create. I still use a couple of Olympus E-1 Pro bodies for rousing color in the images. The last Kodak sensor used by Olympus was in E400, 10 Mp and not quite up to the E-1, but better than the Panasonic sensors. The E400 was never imported to the US, being only shipped to Europe. It is hard to find, often showing up on eBay in the UK. That was the last Kodak sensor in an Olympus body.

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Sep 30, 2017 17:45:58   #
Don.Y Loc: East Ballina,NSW.,Australia
 
I agree with Kuzano about the rendering of colour with the Olympus E-1. It really is an exceptional camera. I've got the optional HLD -2 battery grip and am dreading the day the battery dies. I assume another battery ( that works ) will be hard to find. How big is the biggest print you've printed with the E-1?

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Sep 30, 2017 20:26:28   #
claytonsummers Loc: Orange County, CA
 
berchman wrote:
The need to carefully clean a vinyl record before playing it is a pain I will never forget. That is, if you wanted to preserve its sound quality and not grind the grooves with dust.


Ah, but that was part of the fun. It's like when i bought my first espresso machine. My wife watched me carefully set it up, make a latte, and then clean everything before I drank my latte. She looked at me skeptically and said "hon, that not a coffee machine, that's a hobby."

That said, I do think the hipsters going all retro to be cool is just silly.

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Oct 1, 2017 06:49:06   #
paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah
 
dieseldave wrote:
Sorry anyone who took my post seriously. I was simply playing off what has happened in the music recording industry when CD's were claiming they had the best sound ever. Until many folks sold their LP collection, the trend reversed.

Rank Amateur: a person with no experience whatsoever in an activity or situation


I can see how that definition applies to amateur but where does rank come in. Rank??????????????

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Oct 1, 2017 12:28:35   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
dieseldave wrote:
Sorry anyone who took my post seriously. I was simply playing off what has happened in the music recording industry when CD's were claiming they had the best sound ever. Until many folks sold their LP collection, the trend reversed.

Rank Amateur: a person with no experience whatsoever in an activity or situation


came home last night with about 60 record albums (vinyl) from my local record store - some new, some used. still have and play my records from 1964. also have cds when i cannot get what i want on the licorice pizza.

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Oct 1, 2017 13:31:45   #
bikertut Loc: Kingsville, MO
 
dieseldave wrote:
Sorry anyone who took my post seriously. I was simply playing off what has happened in the music recording industry when CD's were claiming they had the best sound ever. Until many folks sold their LP collection, the trend reversed.

Rank Amateur: a person with no experience whatsoever in an activity or situation


Until this post, I didn't think about all the parallels between film and vinyl. I was a complete audio nerd going from vinyl to reel-to-reel to Dolby cassette to CD. Copying music could only be done in real time, taking hours to transfer to tape or burning a CD from vinyl. (We thought that CDs were a permanent medium not knowing that prolonged light exposure would decay them also).
I spent most of that time trying to eliminate surface "noise" and scratches trying to improve the sound "quaility". And of course every upgrade in equipment enhanced the sound "quality", and too often the noise. Digital and the newer software eliminated the "pops, scratches, and surface noise", but according to many, it also reduced the "warmth" of the music.

Now, thinking about film and digital, does this sound familiar?

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Oct 1, 2017 13:56:48   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
bikertut wrote:
Until this post, I didn't think about all the parallels between film and vinyl. I was a complete audio nerd going from vinyl to reel-to-reel to Dolby cassette to CD. Copying music could only be done in real time, taking hours to transfer to tape or burning a CD from vinyl. (We thought that CDs were a permanent medium not knowing that prolonged light exposure would decay them also).
I spent most of that time trying to eliminate surface "noise" and scratches trying to improve the sound "quaility". And of course every upgrade in equipment enhanced the sound "quality", and too often the noise. Digital and the newer software eliminated the "pops, scratches, and surface noise", but according to many, it also reduced the "warmth" of the music.

Now, thinking about film and digital, does this sound familiar?
Until this post, I didn't think about all the para... (show quote)


nope

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Oct 1, 2017 14:58:45   #
BebuLamar
 
James Slick wrote:
True, DVD and Blu-ray players are fine CD players., Now that I think about it, Except for in my car, I don't even own an actual CD player! I've been using DVD and Blu-ray gear to play CDs for years now! Thank the digital "gods" for compatibly! P.S. Most of this gear will also play Mp3s on a CD/DVD data disc too! 👍


I bought the first Blu Ray players it was the Sony BDP-S1. Since it was an expensive unit, the mechanical was well built, so I thought it would make a good CD player as my CD players always had bad transport. I was wrong it doesn't play CD. Newer Blu Ray players do play CD but not mine.

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