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Sep 13, 2017 23:49:44   #
cwp3420
 
thom w wrote:
God I want to reply, but I would get no joy from harassing an old man who time has passed by. You are obviously ornery as hell, but I don't have to be.


Still a coward, I see.

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Sep 13, 2017 23:59:08   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
thom w wrote:
And he said they would bury us. That banging his shoe on the desk was an interesting maneuver.

Operation Pastorius[edit]
Main article: Operation Pastorius
After declaring war on the United States following the attack on Pearl Harbor, Adolf Hitler ordered the remaining German saboteurs to work havoc on America.[5] The responsibility for carrying this out was given to German Intelligence (Abwehr). In the spring of 1942, nine agents were recruited (one eventually dropping out) and divided into two teams. The first, commanded by George John Dasch, included Ernst Peter Burger, Heinrich Heinck, and Richard Quirin; the second, under command of Edward Kerling, included Hermann Neubauer, Werner Thiel, and Herbert Haupt.

On June 12, 1942, the German submarine U-202 landed Dasch's team with explosives and plans at Amagansett, New York.[6] Their mission was to destroy power plants at Niagara Falls and three Aluminum Company of America (ALCOA) factories in Illinois, Tennessee, and New York. However, Dasch instead turned himself in to the FBI, providing them with a complete list of his team members and an account of the planned missions, which led to their arrests.

On June 17, Kerling's team landed from U-584 at Ponte Vedra Beach, 25 miles (40 km) south-east of Jacksonville, Florida. They were ordered to place mines in four areas: the Pennsylvania Railroad in Newark, New Jersey; canal sluices in both St. Louis, Missouri, and Cincinnati, Ohio; and New York City's water supply pipes. The team members made their way to Cincinnati and then split up, two going to Chicago, Illinois, and the others to New York. Dasch's confession led to the arrest of all of the men by July 10.

Because the German agents were captured in civilian clothes (though they had landed in uniforms), they were tried by a military tribunal in Washington D.C., with six of them sentenced to death for spying. President Franklin D. Roosevelt approved the sentences. The constitutionality of military tribunals was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in Ex parte Quirin on July 31, and the six men were executed by electrocution at the D.C. jail on August 8. Dasch and Burger were given thirty-year prison sentences because they had turned themselves in to the FBI and provided information about the others. Both were released in 1948 and deported to Germany.[7] Dasch (aka George Davis), who had been a longtime American resident before the war, suffered a difficult life in Germany after his return from U.S. custody because he had betrayed his comrades to the U.S. authorities. As a condition of his deportation, he was not permitted to return to the United States, even though he spent many years writing letters to prominent American authorities (J. Edgar Hoover, President Eisenhower, etc.) seeking permission to return. He eventually moved to Switzerland and wrote a book, titled Eight Spies Against America.[8]

You're right, it never happened. See what I mean about you not being as aware of things as one might think you would be.

"As I recall they were Japanese subs" As I recall, dennis what makes this a bold statement? If I said as I recall, you would accuse be of being on the fence. I believe you weren't absolutely sure, so you said "as I recall" . Why didn't you take a stand. See how ridiculous you are.
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I said I wasn't aware of the German subs. I am definitely aware of A Japanese sub because it is part of the history near where I am sitting. I never claimed to know everything in the world.

Ridiculous is you going to great lengths to prove me wrong when I never claimed there definitely were no German subs on the East coast. So what have we learned here? You STILL have not answered my question, you wasted your time proving me wrong when I had never made the claim to begin with and I was right about Khrushchev AND the Japanese sub. You are just trying to find a way to whine because I said, as I recall. Nice try thom but you still lost and will always lose because you don't answer questions.

Dennis

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Sep 14, 2017 00:13:42   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
thom w wrote:
Dennis,
I don't want to put you down (well maybe a little when you really piss me off) it's generally not my style. (didn't say never). I'd like to like you but you make it way to difficult.

My reading skill and reading comprehension are superb. My writing , not so much. I generally proof read a couple of times, but things get through.
Actually you don't piss me off. You mostly just frustrate the hell out of me. I write something and it's in English. You come back with something that isn't what I said. Usually you miss one small word that changes the entire sentence. Since you don't worry about tenses you probably don't notice.
Dennis, br I don't want to put you down (well mayb... (show quote)


See what I mean about sitting on the fence thom. First I piss you off and then I don't. Which is it? Do you even know?

Even if you are. correct about me missing a word, you aren't, tense has to do with past, present or future in the use of words. That is not the case here is it?

If your reading comprehension is so great then answer my question. Cat got your tongue? Did you miss the question entirely? What is your excuse for not answering?

This is how I feel thom. About the time I went to Vietnam on my first tour my favorite cousin, at the time, married a cowardly draft dodger and moved to Canada. He was a coward and she was an anti American POS. I haven't spoken to her since. But both of them would probably be your best friends.

Dennis

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Sep 14, 2017 00:14:21   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
cwp3420 wrote:
Still a coward, I see.


😀😀😀

Dennis

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Sep 14, 2017 00:32:53   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
cwp3420 wrote:
It speaks volumes that you will defend your bar but not your country. Thank God there are not many girlie men such as yourself in America.


Well said and definitely true. In reality he would not even defend the bar or his own house and family.

Dennis

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Sep 14, 2017 00:33:37   #
cwp3420
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Well said and definitely true. In reality he would not even defend the bar or his own house and family.

Dennis



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Sep 14, 2017 00:48:37   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Well said and definitely true. In reality he would not even defend the bar or his own house and family.

Dennis

That is thom, he has not changed since he slithered onto this forum some time ago. I have never encountered a more shallow worthless human being in my life.
You should probably just ignore him, he is not worth your time.

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Sep 14, 2017 00:59:33   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
phcaan wrote:
That is thom, he has not changed since he slithered onto this forum some time ago. I have never encountered a more shallow worthless human being in my life.
You should probably just ignore him, he is not worth your time.
seems like you have a thing for thom

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Sep 14, 2017 01:00:24   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
phcaan wrote:
That is thom, he has not changed since he slithered onto this forum some time ago. I have never encountered a more shallow worthless human being in my life.
You should probably just ignore him, he is not worth your time.


You are absolutely right. I hate to hurt his feelings but he just doesn't take a strong hint.

Dennis

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Sep 14, 2017 01:00:25   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
green wrote:
seems like you have a thing for thom

seems like you have a thing for me.

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Sep 14, 2017 01:02:39   #
ken hubert Loc: Missouri
 
phcaan wrote:
seems like you have a thing for me.


Greenie has a thing for all guys!

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Sep 14, 2017 01:04:51   #
green Loc: 22.1749611,-159.646704,20
 
phcaan wrote:
seems like you have a thing for me.
you have a unique perception of reality

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Sep 14, 2017 01:06:16   #
phcaan Loc: Willow Springs, MO
 
green wrote:
you have a unique perception of reality

And I would say the same of you, perception indeed.

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Sep 14, 2017 01:29:49   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
dennis2146 wrote:
You are absolutely right. I hate to hurt his feelings but he just doesn't take a strong hint.

Dennis


The problem with Thom is that his replies are usually carefully worded to avoid direct confrontation, he would rather have a quiet discussion and not an argument, for some of us this is irritating. It irritates me because when I talk with friends I am more comfortable as I and the others feel free to really express ourselves instead of tiptoeing around the topics.

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Sep 14, 2017 02:15:25   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
letmedance wrote:
The problem with Thom is that his replies are usually carefully worded to avoid direct confrontation, he would rather have a quiet discussion and not an argument, for some of us this is irritating. It irritates me because when I talk with friends I am more comfortable as I and the others feel free to really express ourselves instead of tiptoeing around the topics.


That is pretty much the same way I feel especially here in The Attic. I honestly hate the name calling and crap that goes on but I much prefer that to someone who won't speak out for what he believes. A person can speak freely without acting like a 6th grader. Talking to thom is like talking to a wall but you get more information from the wall as to true feelings.

Dennis

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