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Sep 10, 2017 12:55:06   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Nice contrast of movement with stillness. One of the more unusual pics you will ever see. I'd call it a winner for originality. There would be no frame of reference for the lady to judge this, thus her comment.

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Sep 10, 2017 14:40:41   #
JCam Loc: MD Eastern Shore
 
wsnyder wrote:
I was entered in a contest last year where the "judged" winner was so bad, that sponsors of the contest awarded a second "first" prize to another photo. The judge for this contest was a art teacher from a local college. One would think that person was qualified. This incident had many scratching their heads. What was this judge thinking. You really had to see this "prize winner" to see what I am referring to. I am no expert by far, but I know a good photo from a bad one. I can make allowances for many styles and skill levels, but this was beyond the pale.
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Sounds somewhat familiar ! One time we had a couple do the judging; one was a photographer, the other a paint and canvas artist. For some reason that I don't remember, the painter ended up doing the judging alone. It wasn't pretty; we nearly had a revolution started, but learned that just because someone is well recognized as an artist; it doesn't qualify them in all venues.

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Sep 10, 2017 14:48:51   #
one shot Loc: Pisgah Forest NC
 
Fotoartist wrote:
Nice contrast of movement with stillness. One of the more unusual pics you will ever see. I'd call it a winner for originality. There would be no frame of reference for the lady to judge this, thus her comment.


Thanks for the complement. I sure was pleased when I uploaded that shot.

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Sep 10, 2017 18:33:12   #
Dan De Lion Loc: Montana
 
VTdude wrote:
Hey everyone. I have been enjoying your posts and gaining knowledge from those who've "been there". I have a question. I enter in a Vermont photo contest every year at our state's largest attended annual 10 day fair. This year was my 4th. The first year I got an honorable mention, I was so proud. Nothing since, which is fine. I do it for the love of my hobby and the experience of being involved. We're allowed three entries each among the several categories.

My question: Many photos that win are photos I personally think should not even be considered. They're often blurry, out of focus, immature looking shots (to me). I'm very curious to know, what is in the mind of judges? Do any of you judge at for your local contests? This year as we were picking up our entries post-fair we received a paper entitled, "12 Merits of an Image" which I'm sure they're saying are what judges look for in a contest image. There is nothing on the paper which says, "Should be sharp and clear but out of focus is okay too". The paper is all about sharp, infocus, great color, telling a story sort of thing. One judge even suggested that I should have used a different color matting. Isn't this supposed to be about the photo and not about the matting? I am confused.

Thank you so much for reading this and any thoughts you send my way.
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Your mistake is assuming photography "judges" have minds. Usually it takes particularly stupid person to believe they are capable of judging someone else's art. Photography "judges" have some set of criterion they've learned by rote, without regard to uses or impact. They grade each photo as to how well it matches their arbitrary, uninformed opinions.

The real question is: Why would anyone care what some fool of a judge thinks about their work?

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Sep 10, 2017 20:37:35   #
Mick_E_C
 
Oh my ... the endless conundrum, who judges the judges?

Shoot, print, enter the contest ... all laughs, no laments.

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Sep 10, 2017 20:55:05   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Photography judges should try to put in a tenth of the effort of gymnastic, figure skating, or diving judges who really study and think about their subject and then maybe we would get some meaningful results.

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Sep 10, 2017 21:49:25   #
doodle Loc: Vermont
 
Hi I am also a Vermonter and tune into ugh every day but don't yet engage with questions or answers. In any case- what contest (state fair ) are you referring to(sorry about ending the sentence with a preposition!)
doodly

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Sep 12, 2017 06:40:11   #
VTdude
 
Very interesting to read your experiences and thoughts, both serious and with humor. Thank you!!

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Sep 12, 2017 21:47:33   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
I think the talk about judging involved a camera club. Judging controversies just go along with camera clubs hand in hand.
doodle wrote:
Hi I am also a Vermonter and tune into ugh every day but don't yet engage with questions or answers. In any case- what contest (state fair ) are you referring to(sorry about ending the sentence with a preposition!)
doodly

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