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Aug 31, 2017 12:16:20   #
Tet68survivor Loc: Pomfret Center CT
 
Peterff wrote:
Sure, but for web work it won't make a difference. The OP has better things to spend money on.


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Aug 31, 2017 12:44:50   #
Lyric Loc: The North relocated to the dirty South, LOL
 
bratliff wrote:
Honestly, if budget is that tight, I assume you have a smart phone. Use that until your business venture takes off and you have some money to invest in a better camera. My guess is you need to take pictures to post to a web site to show items for sale, examples, etc. A smart phone is more than capable of that. Should your business take off and you are doing photoshoots outdoors, you might first consider renting some equipment to try before you buy. There are so many options out there that it is literally impossible for anyone here to give you accurate advice, esp since you are shopping pawn shops. :)

I do agree though that when you decide to purchase a more capable camera, buy used or refurbished, but not from a pawn shop. Use a reputable online dealer (Adorama, B&H Photo, are two big ones but I'm sure there are more) that offer a return policy. You will stretch your camera buying money further.
Honestly, if budget is that tight, I assume you ha... (show quote)

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Aug 31, 2017 12:50:12   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Lyric wrote:
Ty, ig yes, I forgot about them. Thank you for the reminder.

My cell phone camera is a joke. I have been blogging and using photos from it in my blog. Not good at all. I have a Walmart cell, LG Max Duo cell at this time.


Well, since you have limited funds, which is your priority? Communication or photography? Both tech items cost money, but a modern smartphone should deal with your photography and be able to support your business needs. The camera can only support your photography.

Perhaps your expectations are far in excess of your budget? That smart phone doesn't look too horrible. Could there be other issues to deal with?

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Aug 31, 2017 12:50:29   #
Lyric Loc: The North relocated to the dirty South, LOL
 
Thank you all. It looks as if I should "invest" in an iPhone which is an upgrade from this Android from Wal-Mart, then. Truly, the photos taken with my cell phone are an amateurish joke.

Thanks again. 😀

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Aug 31, 2017 12:51:56   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
Lyric wrote:
Thank you all. It looks as if I should "invest" in an iPhone which is an upgrade from this Android from Wal-Mart, then. Truly, the photos taken with my cell phone are an amateurish joke.

Thanks again. 😀


Before you spend money, you need to work out whether it is the smartphone or you? Sorry to be blunt.

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Aug 31, 2017 13:12:56   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
Lyric wrote:
Thank you all. It looks as if I should "invest" in an iPhone which is an upgrade from this Android from Wal-Mart, then. Truly, the photos taken with my cell phone are an amateurish joke.

Thanks again. 😀


Why an iPhone? Below are recent ratings of cell phones by camera quality (Consumer Reports July 2017.) Note that the iPhone is neither the best or the cheapest. You already know how to navigate an Android. As a long time Android user, I get frustrated on the rare occasion that I have to venture into iPhone land (my wife has one and occasionally asks me to bring up what took me seconds to find on my Pixel but takes me several minutes to find for her on her Iphone)

• Samsung Galaxy S8+
• Google Pixel
• Google Pixel XL
• Samsung Galaxy S8
• LG V20
• Apple iPhone 7
• Apple iPhone 7 Plus

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Aug 31, 2017 13:20:06   #
RobbieAB Loc: UK
 
If you are looking at costs, and it is that tight, a cheap P&S camera may be far cheaper than a high-end smart Phone, and should be a step up from a cheap smart phone.

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Aug 31, 2017 13:24:58   #
dsmeltz Loc: Philadelphia
 
RobbieAB wrote:
If you are looking at costs, and it is that tight, a cheap P&S camera may be far cheaper than a high-end smart Phone, and should be a step up from a cheap smart phone.


However, for the use indicated, the smartphone makes it easy and efficient to shoot the product and post it quickly. My wife does that on Poshmark. She will take a shot of some used (I mean previous owned) clothing, post it and sell it while sitting and watching TV. The packaging and shipping is what takes time.

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Aug 31, 2017 13:35:11   #
Tet68survivor Loc: Pomfret Center CT
 
I purchased a Nikon P100 all in one, used it a couple of years, won several Amateur photo contests, went out to a light house took a ton if photos, tripped on the back on the jette, smashed the camera, bought a P600 on my trip, been having fun with that, light weight, quick, excellent photos, got home, glued the 0100 back together, and now have both! Great first cameras, I did look at the P900 but was to heavy compared to the 100 & 600. I do have a D5200 for my main canera, but the little ones are for quick shots before D5200 is set to go. But some of the other MFRs offer nice all in ones also!

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Aug 31, 2017 14:48:57   #
wrangler5 Loc: Missouri
 
As others have suggested, if you're goal is mostly posting photos to the web you don't need a lot of camera, so you shouldn't have to spend a lot on one. And if it were me starting off, I'd choose an inexpensive camera-camera before spending money on a better phone just to get its built-in camera. I know the phone cameras are becoming exceptionally powerful, but maybe it's just the long-time camera user in me that finds them inconvenient to use for anything I want to turn into a "real" photograph.

And follow the suggestions to give serious thought to how to best LIGHT your products - proper lighting can make the difference between a phone-snapshot-on-the-web look and a "real" product illustration. Which would you prefer that your customers see? Which is more likely to kick up the "I want that" reaction in a customer?

Inexpensive hot lights are one solution, but be sure to take a look at strobist.blogspot.com for some extensive tutorials on lighting. You can do some amazing things using inexpensive shoe-mount flashes, inexpensive light modifiers/controllers, and creative intelligence. If you can't afford separate lights right now, you can apply creative intelligence to the natural light you do have available. So take a look at the lighting tutorials, whether or not you're buying lights at this point.

To use external lights, you're probably NOT going to be able to use a phone - you'll need something where you can control both the triggering of the lights and the exposure the camera gives. Another reason to consider a camera-camera.

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Aug 31, 2017 15:34:29   #
JerryJDavis Loc: Davenport, IA
 
Tet68survivor wrote:
Maybe so, but iPhones cannot take 600 mm photos or greater! As good as my phone is for photos, I will always have my camera to do the "heavy" work!


Well, yeah. :-) I'm not giving up my beloved cameras! I am, however, looking forward to more sophistication in the UI in the years to come. Nikon just stated something to the effect that is what they're going to concentrate on in order to differentiate themselves from the other companies. Also, I have never used a Sony, but I've heard the interface and features are highly advanced and heading in the right direction.

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Aug 31, 2017 15:38:21   #
JerryJDavis Loc: Davenport, IA
 
Tet68survivor wrote:
I do have a D5200 for my main canera, but the little ones are for quick shots before D5200 is set to go.


I loved my D5200 so much that when I upgraded to a D5500, and had intended to sell the D5200 to help cover the costs, I was never able to bring myself to do it. Now it's my older daughter's camera and she loves it. :-)

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Aug 31, 2017 15:51:19   #
krashdragon
 
Lyric wrote:
Greetings,

With a need to photograph garments on a dressform for my new cottage venture I come here for advice on which camera will meet that need. Here are particulars that surely weigh in on the decision:

Budget:. Less than beer budget (thus the need to make the sewing business successful). I have been consulting eBay, Amazon and thinking of purchasing from a pawn shop (yeah, I am that broke 😩).

Experience: None to speak of. Took Photography 1, 2, and 3 at university; a decade ago. Don't know what I did with my Canon Rebel, I loved that camera and can't afford one now.

Subjects desired to shoot:. Garments inside the Lady Lair in a dressform. But, it would be nice to be able to take general photos. And what if I decide to do some outdoor shoots for variety sake?

If there is something else I need to state in making a decision for a digital camera, please advise. I realize my meager funds are less than desirable; however, I must start somewhere and the plan is definitely to upgrade as the venture experiences monetary success.

Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
Greetings, br br With a need to photograph garmen... (show quote)


Lots of peeps think their cellphone cameras suck,but.....
1.lighting
2. Holding camera steady
3. Lighting
4. Holding camera REALLY still
5. Getting closer than you think you need to the subject
6. Lighting
7. Framing, aka "posing the subject"
8. Background.. And.. Lighting!

Before you spend money on a camera, make some test shots with your phone,post them here. There's lots of help here.
And good luck with your venture!

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Aug 31, 2017 16:14:32   #
Photocraig
 
dsmeltz wrote:
Ditto on cell phone. Put money into a few cheap movable lights and a coupe pieces of fabric for backdrops. Maybe a reflector.


Exactly. The i-phone is optimized for screen displayed photos and the computer interface is excellent. The key here is to be sure your lights provide proper color representation of your garment fabrics. You may need to shop for light bulbs. Using the old fashioned squeeze Clip on light reflectors with a translucent plastic frame in front (not touching because lights get hot) or bouncing off a white wall or large white foam core panels you can get from Hobby Lobby or Michael's or any craft store and you should be in business. Remember, your headphone volume control buttons can be uses as shutter triggers assuring that the phone stays steady yielding sharp photos.

After you get the hang of it, and the Photo 1,2,3 lessons surface, there are apps available for a very few $'s that will let you control aperture and shutter speed and focus points. but master the capable i-phone camera app first. There is plenty of help in You Tube. Search fashion iphoneography and you'll be pleased.

Be creative, use good non distracting backgrounds, and even outdoors, the lights will fill in the shadows. EXPERIMENT. But color sells so concentrate on getting that right.

Go make some money!
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Aug 31, 2017 18:29:45   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Tet68survivor wrote:
Maybe so, but iPhones cannot take 600 mm photos or greater! As good as my phone is for photos, I will always have my camera to do the "heavy" work!

What do you mean by "600mm photos"? I hope you are referring to size of a print, not the size of a lens {because that is lots and lots of magnification!} My iPhone produces 4032x3024 images; the usual standard is that someone stands far enough from an image to see the whole thing at once, and an image of that size is plenty large under that standard.

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