World's Best Pro Camera! (Page 9): For DX it's less than 21MP. There are lots of 24MP DX cameras that are going to be better, lighter and less expensive.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Dan De Lion wrote:

Please forgive any hyperbole. If you want a great studio camera - get the 850. For a great sports camera - the 850. For a great landscape camera - the 850. For a great DX camera - the 850. For a great PJ camera - the 850. For a great general use camera - the 850. For great DR, for great S/N... - the 850. What else can you call it except "THE WORLD'S GREATEST PRO BODY."

For DX it's less than 21MP. There are lots of 24MP DX cameras that are going to be better, lighter and less expensive.

Dan De Lion Loc: Montana

CHOLLY wrote:

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2016/12/28/review-sony-a99-ii/

Hardly a pro camera! It can shoot up to ISO 800??? Best AF for a Sony camera??? Does it do the famous Sony trick of overheating???

Dan De Lion Loc: Montana

selmslie wrote:

For DX it's less than 21MP. There are lots of 24MP DX cameras that are going to be better, lighter and less expensive.

You're missing the point. This high res, FF body will turn out comparable results as the D500. That capability is thrown in for free.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Dan De Lion wrote:

You're missing the point. This high res, FF body will turn out comparable results as the D500. That capability is thrown in for free.

Comparable to the D500, D7200? Did you compare them? I did not miss the point.

You can have both a D500 and a D7200 for a total price less than a single D850. Each produces more MP than the D850 in Dx mode.

I don't have any Dx cameras but if I wanted one I could do better than $3300, especially with a used Dx camera.

On the other hand, one benefit of the D850 is that it will push the price of a used D810 down.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Dan De Lion wrote:

Congrats Nikon - You hit one out of the park. I particularly like being able to shoot at 20mp and switch to 46mp for really big results on a sturdy tripod.

You are, ofc, assuming that the world's best pro camera is a 35mm.

Dan De Lion Loc: Montana

selmslie wrote:

Comparable to the D500, D7200? Did you compare them? I did not miss the point.

You can have both a D500 and a D7200 for a total price less than a single D850. Each produces more MP than the D850 in Dx mode.

I don't have any Dx cameras but if I wanted one I could do better than $3300, especially with a used Dx camera.

On the other hand, one benefit of the D850 is that it will push the price of a used D810 down.

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Yes, you did miss the point. You're not buying a D500 camera - it is free.

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selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Dan De Lion wrote:

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Yes, you did miss the point. You're not buying a D500 camera - it is free.

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Did I? I don't need any of them so I don't want any of them.

Most people don't need them either. Some people have no control over what they want.

So which one of us is missing the point?

Dan De Lion Loc: Montana

selmslie wrote:

Did I? I don't need any of them so I don't want any of them.

Most people don't need them either. Some people have no control over what they want.

So which one of us is missing the point?

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Just a friendly bit of advice. Self righteousness is not a pretty thing. If I were you, I definitely wouldn't buy a D850. There's no doubt it would be wasted on you. Instead, give that money to the poor. Or better still, send it to me.

For me, I've already preordered one from B&H. But, I have a NEED for a high res, studio, sports, high speed, DX sub, general use camera.

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CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!

Dan De Lion wrote:

Hardly a pro camera! It can shoot up to ISO 800??? Best AF for a Sony camera??? Does it do the famous Sony trick of overheating???

Is that MORE of your expert opinion? Or are you just pontificating without cause?

CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!

Dan De Lion wrote:

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Just a friendly bit of advice. Self righteousness is not a pretty thing.
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Hmmmm........

Dan De Lion wrote:

Please forgive any hyperbole. If you want a great studio camera - get the 850. For a great sports camera - the 850. For a great landscape camera - the 850. For a great DX camera - the 850. For a great PJ camera - the 850. For a great general use camera - the 850. For great DR, for great S/N... - the 850. What else can you call it except "THE WORLD'S GREATEST PRO BODY."

Welp, as YOU said; "even a broken clock is right twice a day..."

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Dan De Lion wrote:

... For me, I've already preordered one from B&H. But, I have a NEED for a high res, studio, sports, high speed, DX sub, general use camera.
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All in a single body?

You can't afford more than one camera? You can't decide which camera you need at any given time? How do you manage to get dressed in the morning? Do you wear the same clothes every day?

It looks like you wanted the camera first and are now trying to justify the expense.

Dan De Lion Loc: Montana

CHOLLY wrote:

Is that MORE of your expert opinion? Or are you just pontificating without cause?

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Actually, old man, it's based on facts. You know, those irrefutable things that make your opinions look silly. You are an text-book example of fear and envy from the Sony crowd.

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Dan De Lion Loc: Montana

selmslie wrote:

All in a single body?

You can't afford more than one camera? You can't decide which camera you need at any given time? How do you manage to get dressed in the morning? Do you wear the same clothes every day?

It looks like you wanted the camera first and are now trying to justify the expense.

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You are absolutely right, for a camera, versatility is a terrible, terrible thing. While you are sending me that money we talked about, please also include a few haberdashery tips.

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tdekany Loc: Oregon

Dan De Lion wrote:

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Just a friendly bit of advice. Self righteousness is not a pretty thing. If I were you, I definitely wouldn't buy a D850. There's no doubt it would be wasted on you. Instead, give that money to the poor. Or better still, send it to me.

For me, I've already preordered one from B&H. But, I have a NEED for a high res, studio, sports, high speed, DX sub, general use camera.

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I know one can't just grow empathy, but giving money to you instead of the poor is NEVER "better". Ever!

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Dan De Lion wrote:

But, I have a NEED for a high res, studio, sports, high speed, DX sub, general use camera.

I've been generally supportive of those refuting the "Nikon is doomed" line. I hadn't realized the Nikon line was so weak before release of the D850 that men like you were on the edge of disaster.