r.grossner wrote:
I have a close friend that winters in Florida from the Midwest. She has a P900 and gets the most amazing bird and wildlife shots and it IS a superzoom. T think it goes out to 2000mm equivalent. She uses a monopod often. My wife had several PS Nikons which she wore out and wanted something smaller with more reach and simple. She thinks my D750 is a tank and way to complicated so I got her a Nikon L340. 20MP, 24-630mm equivalent zoom, VR, ISO to 6400. Auto, program, scene and manual modes and less than a pound. And for less than $100.00 on sale at B** with free shipping New with USA Warrantee. Less than her 12 MP PS with 5x zoom! She used to shoot Olympus film cameras and is thrilled with this little camera. The P900 can be had for right around $500 and has many more features but is nearing small DSLR size. These pics were taken fishing in Canada with the L340. Eagle shot with a healthy zoom from a rocking boat. It's a little more than the VR could handle but was her first snap of a baldy. Camera fits in Quart Freezer zip lock bags for weather protection. There are a couple other models in between. Check B&H.
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Screw the camera. Send me the Muskie!!!!!
I bought a new Panasonic FZ1000 from Amazon for less than $500 during Prime Days. It has a 1" sensor, 16x zoom f2.8-f4.0. I've been very happy with it. It's got a lot of bells and whistles that I'm still learning to use but it's pretty easy to just pick up and shoot. To me it's a very nice package.
I bought a Nikon B700 and have been happy with it so far. Got it from Adorama as a Nikon refurbished for around $350 and it was brand new. It is smaller than the P900 and also lighter. Still has as good of a zoom as I would need. Go to your local Best Buy and play around with the different options to help you decide. It helps to put it in your hands to make sure it feels right.
ppage
Loc: Pittsburg, (San Francisco area)
I have a P900- I use it only for wildlife
Pros:
Great image quality. I am well acquainted with exposure triangle, shoot in manual quite often but after reviewing the exposure decisions this camera makes, I am perfectly satisfied to let it take over and will often shoot in full auto. It consistently ops for the lowest iso settings possible.
Incredible zoom. Too incredible sometimes. Feel like I can't find my ass with both hands sometimes, searching for a subject right in front of me, but when do, I can shoot right up the nostril of a bird.
Fast focusing system, locks in well.
Cons: It is a super zoom. You will want to be zoomed in all the time. That means you'll be at f/6.5 all the time too.
Pixel peeping: Don' do it. The sensor is the size of a bread crumb. It is a 5.6 crop factor. Going 1:1 will disappoint you.
Iso performance is poor; see bread crumb
No eye cup. This is really bad. When the sun comes in from either side, you're toast. Can't see a thing in your viewfinder. Dumbest thing ever and there are no after market or third party solutions.
Maximum aperture is f/8 or is it f/45? (f/8 x 5.6) I don't know but really not a landscape camera
7fps with a 5 second wait until you can shoot again, and now that bird is long gone.
Shutter speed can be fast but it is hard to convince the camera to let you do it. Most I can usually get to is 1\3200
No RAW. Huge bummer for me.
So, final verdict: I would not buy this camera again. I find myself longing for my Rebel T5i and constantly dream of what the Canon 7D III will look like next year I hope
Get something that shoots raw with a 50x or 60x zoom, with an eyecup, bigger sensor, etc.
Just bought a new P900 with extra battery and 32 GB SD card off of Jet.com. With new user discount and declining the free returns (I was sure I was going to love the camera) I paid $529 delivered.
ppage
Loc: Pittsburg, (San Francisco area)
I wish you all the best with it. It's not often you can hold 2000 mm in the palm of your hand.
I love my SX60HS. I have four DSLRs and I shoot with this camera most of the time. It is my swiss army knife of cameras versatile and takes nice pictures.. I bought this one from Canon direct refurbished.
JPL wrote:
Just look for a refurb P900. It should be as good as new but at a lower price. There is no better value for mony than P900 if you want to shoot birds and butterflies. And sometimes you will need all the focal length it has so there are actually no alternatives available. I have one and have been sitting outside my home shooting birds with it the last few days. Works very well. For other stuff you will probably stick to your current camera.
Would the quality of the B700 with 20 megapixels give better quality shots than the P900? Thanks for your recommendation. Gregger
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
ppage wrote:
Incredible zoom. Too incredible sometimes. Feel like I can't find my ass with both hands sometimes, searching for a subject right in front of me, but when do, I can shoot right up the nostril of a bird.
I learned a long time ago to start off wide and zoom in only after I know where the subject is.
ppage wrote:
Get something that shoots raw with a 50x or 60x zoom, with an eyecup, bigger sensor, etc.
Super zoom is possible only with tiny sensor.
rehess wrote:
Super zoom is possible only with tiny sensor.
So are you stating there is no difference between the 16 and 20 Megabits? I really don't need something that zooms that far. But I would like to get a Nikon. Greg
ppage
Loc: Pittsburg, (San Francisco area)
Good for you. Not so easy with a moving target. The sensor is doing that? You think?
I'm using the Nikon P520. It has worked great for me with the max zoom at 1000mm. I couldn't recommend a better zoom other then the P900. Here are 2 shots of surfers. One with the wide shot (surfers on the left), one zoomed in.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
Gregger wrote:
So are you stating there is no difference between the 16 and 20 Megabits? I really don't need something that zooms that far. But I would like to get a Nikon. Greg
There are two ways of measuring a sensor - by pixels or by millimeters.
A "FF" sensor is approximately 36mm x 24mm
An APS-C sensor is roughly 24mm x 16mm
For historical reasons, the very small sensors are measured by diagonal of the sensor. In order to get superzoom that acts like a very long 35mm lens, physics points us to very small sensors; in this case they tend to use the very smallest, the so-called 1/2.3" sensor, which is approximately 6.2mmx4.6mm, less than 1/3-rd the linear dimensions of an APS-C sensor in each direction.
Undisputed is the fact that a larger sensor will naturally provide lower noise and greater color depth.
Sometimes you will see heated discussions here discussing the relative merits of FF and APS-C cameras; the ratio of FF to APS-C is 1.5; the ration of super-zoom to APS-C is twice that, so anything said about comparing FF to APS-C, especially in poor light, is even more true when comparing super-zoom to the larger sensors.
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