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Aug 23, 2017 14:44:46   #
charles tabb Loc: Richmond VA.
 
Architect1776 wrote:
This is the only state that contains one of the Seven Natural Wonders of the World. It is the only state that contains all four N. American deserts. The world's largest contiguous ponderosa pine forest stretches across this state. The country's largest and second largest man made lakes are here. This is where you'll find the southernmost ski resort and the southernmost mile high city in America. The longest unbroken stretch of Route 66 is here. Billy the Kid killed his first man here and the most famous gunfight in the Old West took place a little further south in a vacant lot behind the O.K. Corral. When NASA was preparing to land on the moon, this is where they trained. All of New England, plus the state of Pennsylvania could fit inside the state's borders. There are more wilderness areas in this state than in the entire Midwest. There is only one place in the country where the U.S. Post Office still delivers mail by mule and it is here. This is where you'll find the world's largest solar telescope, the deepest dam and best-preserved meteor crater. It is arguably, and I will argue with anyone on this (Even Spud though Idaho comes in a distant 2nd), the most beautiful state in the union. It is my native home. Welcome to Arizona.
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This is the place where if you watch "Live PD" has one of the most congenial State Police Officers you could ever meet.
I would love to meet him.

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Aug 23, 2017 16:43:00   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
Robert Bailey wrote:
How's your water supply?


City of Phoenix propaganda brochure states that we currently use the same amount of water as we did in 1952 despite the growth in population. The largest demand for water was for agriculture. The reservations grew a lot of the sought after Pima cotton which has diminished since they discovered a more profitable venture - casinos. New subdivisions have eaten up most of the surrounding farmland which of course place demands on the water system, but when the city stated that compared to agricultural usage it is far less. Reservoirs have gone from 44% to 62% (average) capacity this year. At least one of them had to release water to the lower reservoirs recently. That's some of the good news for the greater Phoenix area. The bad news and far less publicized, is that Lake Powell and Meade are so overused, they may never return to capacity. In 2015 they were 140' below normal level. Today, even with the above average rain and snow pack, they are at 148' below normal. I think "normal" is considered full which is somewhere around 1229' deep. In 2015 one of our water suppliers predicted that they may have to declare a "shortage" as early as last year or possibly this year, which was narrowly avoided by higher accumulations this past winter and spring than originally predicted.

Arizona manages water very well in our area, but the demands and battles for a bigger share of the Colorado river to feed a growing Las Vegas, parts of California and agriculture for the Northern reservations is a growing issue. The greater Tucson area has water restrictions on occasion, and has strict landscaping standards for new construction. Phoenix has chosen not to address the future possibilities and it fact enables homeowners to grow absolutely nothing in their yards. Having dirt yards is perfectly legal in all non-HOA areas within the city boundaries. Homeowners are as much at fault, but they do what the city allows. Not saying turf yards are the answer, but rock scapes are more normal since water rates continue to rise. It appears bare dirt is more popular these days, especially in older areas.
Much of Southern Arizona remains in a 15 year drought. A news article stated some farmers are resigned to the fact they will have have to contract or cease operations entirely by 2030. Especially hard hit is the area around Willcox, AZ which grows a lot of grapes, pistachios, and other grains. They are using more than 10 times what the weather can replenish per year.
Once the Colorado river flowed into California. Today it is all but sucked dry by the time it reaches Yuma, AZ.

My opinion - we continue to walk a fine line between a shortage and a drought depending on where you live in the state. I really think our biggest issue we will face in the near future is a water shortage. I am no expert by far, but the statistics are pointing in that direction.
Sorry, but you asked! lol

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Aug 23, 2017 16:46:43   #
drucker Loc: Oregon
 
shelty wrote:
They used to publish a monthly magazine, I believe it was called Arizona Highways, that was filled with gorgeous pictures.


They still do . . . .

http://www.magazine-agent.com-sub.info/Arizona-Highways/Welcome

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Aug 23, 2017 17:04:58   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 

--Bob
Architect1776 wrote:
This is the only state that contains one of the Seven Natural Wonders of the World. It is the only state that contains all four N. American deserts. The world's largest contiguous ponderosa pine forest stretches across this state. The country's largest and second largest man made lakes are here. This is where you'll find the southernmost ski resort and the southernmost mile high city in America. The longest unbroken stretch of Route 66 is here. Billy the Kid killed his first man here and the most famous gunfight in the Old West took place a little further south in a vacant lot behind the O.K. Corral. When NASA was preparing to land on the moon, this is where they trained. All of New England, plus the state of Pennsylvania could fit inside the state's borders. There are more wilderness areas in this state than in the entire Midwest. There is only one place in the country where the U.S. Post Office still delivers mail by mule and it is here. This is where you'll find the world's largest solar telescope, the deepest dam and best-preserved meteor crater. It is arguably, and I will argue with anyone on this (Even Spud though Idaho comes in a distant 2nd), the most beautiful state in the union. It is my native home. Welcome to Arizona.
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Aug 23, 2017 17:21:29   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
Architect1776 wrote:
This is the only state that contains one of the Seven Natural Wonders of the World. It is the only state that contains all four N. American deserts. The world's largest contiguous ponderosa pine forest stretches across this state. The country's largest and second largest man made lakes are here. This is where you'll find the southernmost ski resort and the southernmost mile high city in America. The longest unbroken stretch of Route 66 is here. Billy the Kid killed his first man here and the most famous gunfight in the Old West took place a little further south in a vacant lot behind the O.K. Corral. When NASA was preparing to land on the moon, this is where they trained. All of New England, plus the state of Pennsylvania could fit inside the state's borders. There are more wilderness areas in this state than in the entire Midwest. There is only one place in the country where the U.S. Post Office still delivers mail by mule and it is here. This is where you'll find the world's largest solar telescope, the deepest dam and best-preserved meteor crater. It is arguably, and I will argue with anyone on this (Even Spud though Idaho comes in a distant 2nd), the most beautiful state in the union. It is my native home. Welcome to Arizona.
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Indeed! Welcome to Arizona - Land of so many wonderful places. Again - Welcome!

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Aug 23, 2017 17:33:50   #
Robert Bailey Loc: Canada
 
I love doing photography in Arizona because it is so different from where I live in Canada.
Everything is fascinating to me as a visitor, but I'm sure to people who live there they
become accustomed to the scenery and learn to ignore the beauty.

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Aug 23, 2017 18:24:52   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
FRENCHY wrote:
You are right , then here come McCain and his one vote !



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Aug 23, 2017 18:26:21   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Robert Bailey wrote:
I love doing photography in Arizona because it is so different from where I live in Canada.
Everything is fascinating to me as a visitor, but I'm sure to people who live there they
become accustomed to the scenery and learn to ignore the beauty.


I never have gotten used to it. It is infinite in the beauty and differences. PA is nice but it is all pretty much the same, Green.

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Aug 23, 2017 18:38:59   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
sirlensalot wrote:
City of Phoenix propaganda brochure states that we currently use the same amount of water as we did in 1952 despite the growth in population. The largest demand for water was for agriculture. The reservations grew a lot of the sought after Pima cotton which has diminished since they discovered a more profitable venture - casinos. New subdivisions have eaten up most of the surrounding farmland which of course place demands on the water system, but when the city stated that compared to agricultural usage it is far less. Reservoirs have gone from 44% to 62% (average) capacity this year. At least one of them had to release water to the lower reservoirs recently. That's some of the good news for the greater Phoenix area. The bad news and far less publicized, is that Lake Powell and Meade are so overused, they may never return to capacity. In 2015 they were 140' below normal level. Today, even with the above average rain and snow pack, they are at 148' below normal. I think "normal" is considered full which is somewhere around 1229' deep. In 2015 one of our water suppliers predicted that they may have to declare a "shortage" as early as last year or possibly this year, which was narrowly avoided by higher accumulations this past winter and spring than originally predicted.

Arizona manages water very well in our area, but the demands and battles for a bigger share of the Colorado river to feed a growing Las Vegas, parts of California and agriculture for the Northern reservations is a growing issue. The greater Tucson area has water restrictions on occasion, and has strict landscaping standards for new construction. Phoenix has chosen not to address the future possibilities and it fact enables homeowners to grow absolutely nothing in their yards. Having dirt yards is perfectly legal in all non-HOA areas within the city boundaries. Homeowners are as much at fault, but they do what the city allows. Not saying turf yards are the answer, but rock scapes are more normal since water rates continue to rise. It appears bare dirt is more popular these days, especially in older areas.
Much of Southern Arizona remains in a 15 year drought. A news article stated some farmers are resigned to the fact they will have have to contract or cease operations entirely by 2030. Especially hard hit is the area around Willcox, AZ which grows a lot of grapes, pistachios, and other grains. They are using more than 10 times what the weather can replenish per year.
Once the Colorado river flowed into California. Today it is all but sucked dry by the time it reaches Yuma, AZ.

My opinion - we continue to walk a fine line between a shortage and a drought depending on where you live in the state. I really think our biggest issue we will face in the near future is a water shortage. I am no expert by far, but the statistics are pointing in that direction.
Sorry, but you asked! lol
City of Phoenix propaganda brochure states that we... (show quote)


Many decades ago AZ activated the National Guard to attack CA in order to protect their water rights to the Colorado River.

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Aug 23, 2017 21:52:51   #
Steve_m Loc: Southern California
 
Architect1776 wrote:
This is the only state that contains one of the Seven Natural Wonders of the World. It is the only state that contains all four N. American deserts. The world's largest contiguous ponderosa pine forest stretches across this state. The country's largest and second largest man made lakes are here. This is where you'll find the southernmost ski resort and the southernmost mile high city in America. The longest unbroken stretch of Route 66 is here. Billy the Kid killed his first man here and the most famous gunfight in the Old West took place a little further south in a vacant lot behind the O.K. Corral. When NASA was preparing to land on the moon, this is where they trained. All of New England, plus the state of Pennsylvania could fit inside the state's borders. There are more wilderness areas in this state than in the entire Midwest. There is only one place in the country where the U.S. Post Office still delivers mail by mule and it is here. This is where you'll find the world's largest solar telescope, the deepest dam and best-preserved meteor crater. It is arguably, and I will argue with anyone on this (Even Spud though Idaho comes in a distant 2nd), the most beautiful state in the union. It is my native home. Welcome to Arizona.
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You forgot that is hotter than in hell.

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Aug 23, 2017 22:53:26   #
RickL Loc: Vail, Az
 
Amen from Vail, Az

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Aug 23, 2017 23:13:01   #
Tikva Loc: Waukesha, WI
 
I've never been there, but it sounds like a very remarkable state with lots to see and photograph.

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Aug 24, 2017 03:14:37   #
Beard43 Loc: End of the Oregon Trail
 
I lived in Phoenix from '49 to '53 and don't have really fond memories of the place. I was 9 when I went to Calif to live with my mother and 3 brothers.

Ron

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Aug 24, 2017 08:07:49   #
cdayton
 
shelty wrote:
They used to publish a monthly magazine, I believe it was called Arizona Highways, that was filled with gorgeous pictures.

It is still published and has great photos as always.

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Aug 24, 2017 10:02:27   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
Steve_m wrote:
You forgot that is hotter than in hell.


That is the error of those not familiar with the state. Try the Mogollion Rim in the summer. Gets pretty cool / cold in the summer. Even Tucson beats a lot of states in the east for heat in the summer being as cool or cooler and far less humid. Then go up the nearby Santa Catalina mountains and get cold or just have fun in the cool waters of Sabino Canyon nearby.

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