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Aug 21, 2017 08:24:08   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
I'd like to remind all you wingers that the statues are being removed by the local and state governments and in some cases by private land owners upon whose property they sit.
This is called States Rights when it's something that you like but tyranny when you don't.

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Aug 21, 2017 08:53:36   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
WNYShooter wrote:
Jeffrey LordAugust 17, 2017, 12:01 am

If things continue the way they’re going, it’s just a matter of time.

It is a political movement devouring itself.

All of a sudden America is confronted with American leftists abruptly striking out at their own history — pulling down statues of those who were the military leaders of a philosophical belief that is historically recorded and enshrined as the building block of the Democratic Party.

In a 2016 commencement address to City College in New York graduates, then-First Lady Michelle Obama said that “every single day” as First Lady “I wake up in a house that was built by slaves.” True enough.

But what the First Lady left out is that every day any Democrat in America wakes up they are the core of a political party that, like the physical White House, “was built by slaves.”

Back there in the stone age of 2008 I authored a piece in The American Spectator which was reprinted in the Wall Street Journal. In which there was a specific recounting of the Democratic Party’s construction as the Party of Race. A party that was built on the idea of racism.

Among the hard facts of party history cited were these:

*Six party platforms from 1840-1860 that supported slavery.

*Twenty Democratic Party platforms from 1868-1948 that either supported segregation outright or were silent on the subject.

*The use of the Ku Klux Klan, which, according to Columbia University historian Eric Foner, became “a military force serving the interests of the Democratic Party.” University of North Carolina historian Allen Trelease described the Klan as the “terrorist arm of the Democratic Party.”

*The Democratic Party opposed the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to the Constitution. The 13th banned slavery. The 14th effectively overturned the infamous 1857 Dred Scott decision (made by Democratic pro-slavery Supreme Court justices) by guaranteeing due process and equal protection to former slaves. The 15th gave black Americans the right to vote.

And so it went as the Democratic Party built itself politically on a culture of racism that is now once again overflowing in this sudden drive of 21st century leftists to deny the original identity politics that created them — and which is still the nuclear core of their ideological energy.

All of which raises the obvious question. If the statues birthed by Democratic Party orthodoxy must come down — and there is now a call to remove statues of prominent Democratic members of the House or Senate from the US Capitol building — should the political party that gave birth to those statues in the first place be the exception to the First Amendment — and banned and outlawed outright?

My answer? Of course not. The First Amendment should protect even a party built by racism and racists. But if Americans are not going to ban the Democrats — the political party that was built on the backs of black slaves and segregation? A party that continues to this very day by feeding off of identity politics — the grandchild of slavery and the child of segregation? Then at the very least the party must be held accountable for its legacy.

What does that mean at its logical conclusion? Should President Franklin Roosevelt’s statue on the Washington Mall be ripped out? FDR was the president who embodied the Democratic Party in the 1930s and 1940s and well beyond after his death. He was also the president who appointed Ku Klux Klansman and Alabama Senator Hugo Black to the Supreme Court. Black, a leading progressive of the day wrote this of FDR in a memo, as noted by author Bruce Bartlett in his telling book Wrong on Race: The Democratic Party’s Buried Past. Wrote Justice Black:

President Roosevelt, when I went up to lunch with him, told me there was no reason for my worrying about my having been a member of the Ku Klux Klan. He said that some of his best friends and supporters he had in the state of Georgia were strong members of that organization. He never in any way, by word or attitude, indicated any doubt about my having been in the Klan nor did he indicate any criticism of me for having been a member of that organization. The rumors and statements to the contrary are wrong.

Justice Black would later go on to author Korematsu v. United States — the infamous Supreme Court decision that imprisoned Japanese-Americans in internment camps. Will FDR’s Hyde Park home and presidential library now be burned to the ground?

Or perhaps the focus should be on demolishing the Democratic National Committee headquarters in Washington? The home base for the party built on the backs of black slaves and segregation? A number of times last year I asked when the Democratic Party was going to get around to apologizing for slavery in its platform. There was silence in response.

The American Left is in the process of eating itself alive even if today’s media — not to mention all those pullers-down of statues — don’t seem to recognize the logical end result of what they are doing.

And that’s before one even gets to the obvious if strictly ignored reality (by the liberal media) that all those would-be Nazis and Neo-Nazis out there in America are not “Right” — they are “Left.” The infamous German political party whose name and tactics these bigots, racists, and anti-Semites ape had its shorthand abbreviation of “Nazis” taken from their formal name — the German National Socialist Labor Party. A party that had as one of its slogans this: Geminate geht vor Eigennutz — “the commonweal ranks above private profit.” In other words, hardcore left-wing socialism. Suffice to say, Lincoln, Reagan, Kemp — or Trump — conservatives or Republicans they are not. And neither were those self-described Nazis and Neo-Nazis in the streets of Charlottesville.

So the question? If in fact the American Left is working its way through the monument legacy of racism in this country? Then the Democratic Party — the party of slavery, segregation, identity politics, and the obsession of judging by skin color which gave and gives life and breath to the American Left — is the biggest, baddest monument in all of American history.

https://spectator.org/is-it-time-to-ban-the-democratic-party/
Jeffrey LordAugust 17, 2017, 12:01 am br br If th... (show quote)


Another right winger demonstrating a profound misunderstanding of our country. Yes, lets ban a party that, in the last election, garnered 3 million more votes than the Republican.

What is it about free elections and democracy that irritates you? There are several autocratic regimes on this planet that you minght find more to your taste in authoritarianism. Try one and keep us posted how things are going.

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Aug 21, 2017 09:23:11   #
BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky
 
Bazbo wrote:
Another right winger demonstrating a profound misunderstanding of our country. Yes, lets ban a party that, in the last election, garnered 3 million more votes than the Republican.

What is it about free elections and democracy that irritates you? There are several autocratic regimes on this planet that you minght find more to your taste in authoritarianism. Try one and keep us posted how things are going.


Trump is losing support from the voters in the states that won the election for him for him.

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Aug 21, 2017 11:35:45   #
SBW
 
Bazbo wrote:
Another right winger demonstrating a profound misunderstanding of our country. Yes, lets ban a party that, in the last election, garnered 3 million more votes than the Republican.

What is it about free elections and democracy that irritates you? There are several autocratic regimes on this planet that you minght find more to your taste in authoritarianism. Try one and keep us posted how things are going.


The better question SPAZBO is why don't YOU understand our system of government and how we elect our presidents. Maybe you are too stupid? You cannot spell or write grammatically correct sentences as evidenced above so maybe you are stupid. Stupid or retarded, it can only be one of those two. At any rate, you are a hypocritical coward not worth listening to much less having anything valid or intelligent to say. Face SPAZBO, you are an imbecile.

Posing a question that asks should the Democrat party be banned is valid, after all, it is the party of racist and American Nazis. It is also the party that first thought up modern genocide. A Democrat icon, Margaret Sanger had designs on eliminating the black presence in the United States. Cannot deny that SPAZBO, it is written and reported about for everyone to see. It is also a fact that Adolf Hitler modeled some of his thinking about genocide and the final solution after the writings and quotes from Margaret Sanger. Again, a Democrat icon. So you see SPAZBO, you idiot, the Democrats and the Nazis have been hand in hand, in lockstep for decades now. Now run along and get yourself an eighth-grade Civics book and have someone read it to you. You may actually learn something. I know you are very, very stupid. But I am an optimist.

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Aug 21, 2017 12:25:20   #
Quinn 4
 
After the Civil War the Republican party sold out the African-American for money and power. South hated the Republican because of the war, so that gave raise of the Democrats control of the South. Republican got control of the South after the 1964 and 1968 Civil Rights Acts. The Republican did it second time to the African-American. With Trump it going to be a third time.

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Aug 21, 2017 14:33:54   #
SBW
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
After the Civil War the Republican party sold out the African-American for money and power. South hated the Republican because of the war, so that gave raise of the Democrats control of the South. Republican got control of the South after the 1964 and 1968 Civil Rights Acts. The Republican did it second time to the African-American. With Trump it going to be a third time.


You need a history lesson imbecile. The Republican party is the party that PASSED the Civil Rights Act. Idiot.

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Aug 21, 2017 14:43:07   #
SBW
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
After the Civil War the Republican party sold out the African-American for money and power. South hated the Republican because of the war, so that gave raise of the Democrats control of the South. Republican got control of the South after the 1964 and 1968 Civil Rights Acts. The Republican did it second time to the African-American. With Trump it going to be a third time.



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Aug 21, 2017 16:25:41   #
Quinn 4
 
Not the 1964 or 68. 64 the South vote for Goldwater. 68 it vote for Wallace and Nixon In both cases it was because of Civil Right Laws. By the way a local store has a sale on white sheet, want some?

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Aug 21, 2017 16:31:33   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
SBW wrote:
The better question SPAZBO is why don't YOU understand our system of government and how we elect our presidents. Maybe you are too stupid? You cannot spell or write grammatically correct sentences as evidenced above so maybe you are stupid. Stupid or retarded, it can only be one of those two. At any rate, you are a hypocritical coward not worth listening to much less having anything valid or intelligent to say. Face SPAZBO, you are an imbecile.

Posing a question that asks should the Democrat party be banned is valid, after all, it is the party of racist and American Nazis. It is also the party that first thought up modern genocide. A Democrat icon, Margaret Sanger had designs on eliminating the black presence in the United States. Cannot deny that SPAZBO, it is written and reported about for everyone to see. It is also a fact that Adolf Hitler modeled some of his thinking about genocide and the final solution after the writings and quotes from Margaret Sanger. Again, a Democrat icon. So you see SPAZBO, you idiot, the Democrats and the Nazis have been hand in hand, in lockstep for decades now. Now run along and get yourself an eighth-grade Civics book and have someone read it to you. You may actually learn something. I know you are very, very stupid. But I am an optimist.
The better question SPAZBO is why don't YOU unders... (show quote)


Too much covfefe?



You should stick to cheap baseless vulgarity.

Seems like trying to understand facts and make a point completely overwhelms you.

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Aug 21, 2017 16:54:52   #
gorgehiker Loc: Lexington, Ky
 
SBW wrote:
You need a history lesson imbecile. The Republican party is the party that PASSED the Civil Rights Act. Idiot.


Democratic president LBJ signed the civil rights act in 1964 knowing that he would lose the votes of Democrats in the South for a long time. The southern Democrats did not support civil rights legislation. As a Democrat I accept the part of our party history which includes the era when our party had an extremely racist element. After the Democrats led the fight for racial equality in the sixties, the party roles reversed and the Dixiecrats voted for Republicans. Whether we like it or not, history is history. We don't get to rewrite history even if southerners would prefer to believe that the Civil War was fought over state's rights and not to protect slavery. Republicans are faced with a situation where their party now includes a strongly racist element. Why do you think that David Duke and other white supremacists favor Donald Trump?

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Aug 21, 2017 17:02:24   #
Quinn 4
 
Could not say it better.

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Aug 21, 2017 17:02:45   #
user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
 
drainbamage wrote:
You are such a typical liberal - very good a twisting things around. Of course slavery is not OK. But try going to a black neighborhood in Mississippi or Alabama and telling them that some of their slave ancestors were owned by black plantation owners or American indian and see what kind of a reaction you get. It won't be pretty because they think that slavery is a white oppression thing. They don't want to acknowledge that this is not true. And before you ask me what relevance this has to anything, keep in mind that this is a forum where anything and everything can be discussed, no matter what you think the conversation "should" be about.
You are such a typical liberal - very good a twist... (show quote)
so you're more than a bit conceited to think that you, a middle-class white guy, can see the truth where black people will freak out, and not understand because to them, slavery is ONLY a white oppression thing? Black people will not be able to acknowledge this as true, but you as a white person, can easily see thru that white oppression myth.

If I did not know you better, I would say that your statement above definitely puts you in the racist category. You, as a white person, have the abiltity to see truth that is not available to people living in black neighborhoods.

...did you want to walk that back a little?

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Aug 21, 2017 17:18:07   #
SBW
 
mwalsh wrote:
Too much covfefe?



You should stick to cheap baseless vulgarity.

Seems like trying to understand facts and make a point completely overwhelms you.


Get yourself another donut you clueless lardass.

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Aug 21, 2017 17:34:27   #
SBW
 
gorgehiker wrote:
Democratic president LBJ signed the civil rights act in 1964 knowing that he would lose the votes of Democrats in the South for a long time. The southern Democrats did not support civil rights legislation. As a Democrat I accept the part of our party history which includes the era when our party had an extremely racist element. After the Democrats led the fight for racial equality in the sixties, the party roles reversed and the Dixiecrats voted for Republicans. Whether we like it or not, history is history. We don't get to rewrite history even if southerners would prefer to believe that the Civil War was fought over state's rights and not to protect slavery. Republicans are faced with a situation where their party now includes a strongly racist element. Why do you think that David Duke and other white supremacists favor Donald Trump?
Democratic president LBJ signed the civil rights a... (show quote)


I have no idea why David Duke would prefer one person over the other. I have no idea why two Klan leaders endorsed Hillary Clinton. As a Democrat you are the expert on racism and hate since your party authored it, why don't you tell us? Answer your own question.

BTW, genius, you missed the entire point, Democrats DID NOT lead the fight for racial equality. So far they have convinced the blacks and other people of color that they did. That is the big lie. If the blacks ever figure out that they have been voting Democrat lock step for 70 years and they are no better off, in fact, they are worse off, then the Democrat party will cease to exist.



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Aug 21, 2017 17:35:38   #
SBW
 
user47602 wrote:
so you're more than a bit conceited to think that you, a middle-class white guy, can see the truth where black people will freak out, and not understand because to them, slavery is ONLY a white oppression thing? Black people will not be able to acknowledge this as true, but you as a white person, can easily see thru that white oppression myth.

If I did not know you better, I would say that your statement above definitely puts you in the racist category. You, as a white person, have the abiltity to see truth that is not available to people living in black neighborhoods.

...did you want to walk that back a little?
so you're more than a bit conceited to think that ... (show quote)


Typical of you, a nonsensical post. Better go steal another one green.

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