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Aug 20, 2017 07:44:47   #
Nikonman44
 
in its day it probably cost you 20 p.

Today its probably worth 100 quid.

I was at a car place yesterday. I had a 1966 vette back then and paid 3900 dollars for it new.

The one they had was on the block ( not as sharp as mine) for 100,000 dollars

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Aug 20, 2017 07:48:00   #
Nikonman44
 
Bond James Bond yes

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Aug 20, 2017 08:55:38   #
BebuLamar
 
Nikonman44 wrote:
Bond James Bond yes


Bond wouldn't get caught using that thing. He's Bond and not Mac Gyver.

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Aug 20, 2017 10:34:16   #
turp77 Loc: Connecticut, Plainfield
 
rehess wrote:
During my project of scanning all my old media, I came across this picture, which I tentatively list as having been taken in 1986. Yes, I know this is not art. Yes, I know this is not technically wonderful. I did think the subject was of interest here. In case you're having trouble parsing this picture, you are seeing a 110 cartridge with a "camera" {the red/white thing with a few pieces of black plastic} clipped over what would normally be its open side. This is a really basic camera, a crude viewfinder, a basic film advance device, and a very simple shutter; I don't remember what "pictures" from this thing looked like - I guess I'll need to go through the stuff he left behind and see if I can identify any 110 pictures.
During my project of scanning all my old media, I ... (show quote)


I have one of these, it was a Kellog promo. It was free. I forgot what we had to do but it came with a cartridge. It is part of my camera collection.

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Aug 20, 2017 11:45:15   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
I had a little Kodak 110 film camera for a short time. The pictures were never very good quality, always grainy and somewhat blurry, even in the best of conditions. It didn't get used very long and faded into antiquity. Or the trash.

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Aug 20, 2017 12:51:40   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
Did not known that Minox was a pre WWII camera. My mistake.


No problem. The post war models are more plentiful and naturally more well known from the whole spy movie gernre that sprang up with the cold war.

I collect vintage cameras and have a 1960s vintage Minox, but never saw a "Riga" in person. Since they were built and used in wartime the "Riga" is now rare and is a "holy grail" among Minox fans.

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Aug 20, 2017 12:56:58   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
turp77 wrote:
I have one of these, it was a Kellog promo. It was free. I forgot what we had to do but it came with a cartridge. It is part of my camera collection.


Since there's a market for cerial giveaway collectibles, Your Kellogg's promo is likely worth more than many "real" cameras of the same vintage! And if Coca-Cola gave away a version, Who knows what THAT would be worth!

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Aug 20, 2017 13:06:24   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
Wingpilot wrote:
I had a little Kodak 110 film camera for a short time. The pictures were never very good quality, always grainy and somewhat blurry, even in the best of conditions. It didn't get used very long and faded into antiquity. Or the trash.


The Kodak 110s wern't that bad for the money, But all 110s suffered the limitations of such a tiny image size. (even the high end 110 SLRs wern't going produce stunning 8x10s) The real bad ones were the "generic" plastic lens "drug store" specials. I could never see buying a camera that cost less than the film! The original 126 Instamatic cartridge of course could do better. Even it suffered the same problem of having thin plastic essentially forming the camera "back" no matter what quality the camera the cartridge went in.

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Aug 20, 2017 13:29:03   #
R. Bush Loc: Ogden, UT
 
The smallest film cameras in my collection are two Rollie 35s. One is a German made Rollie 35 that has a Carl Ziess f3.5/40mm Tessar lens and the other is a Rollie 35-S (the 'S' standing for being made in Singapore) with a Sonnar f2.8/40 lens. Unfortunately the light meter does not work in the Singapore made camera. Poor light meter units that quit working were the major shortcoming of this specific camera type.

I don't think I would ever want a film camera with a smaller film format than that of the 35mm camera.

To allow the light meter to read light accurately in the Rollie 35 cameras, I now use an adapter that is the same diameter and thickness of the original mercury battery, but has a tray that holds a smaller current type battery within it. This is needed because the required voltage needs to be the same as the original mercury battery. Internationally, mercury batteries are no longer produced because the mercury that was used in them produced birth defects to children born in those locations where these batteries were made. Mercury is a heavy metal that, like lead, is poisonous to humans.

Pentax made an extremely high grade reflex camera system that use the Kodak 110 film cassettes, but again, the small format didn't yield very high quality pictures. Digital camera technology was also coming into the picture and helped kill off most all of smaller format film cameras. Now smart phones are killing off digital point and shoot cameras.

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Aug 20, 2017 13:29:32   #
R. Bush Loc: Ogden, UT
 
The smallest film cameras in my collection are two Rollie 35s. One is a German made Rollie 35 that has a Carl Ziess f3.5/40mm Tessar lens and the other is a Rollie 35-S (the 'S' standing for being made in Singapore) with a Sonnar f2.8/40 lens. Unfortunately the light meter does not work in the Singapore made camera. Poor light meter units that quit working were the major shortcoming of this specific camera type.

I don't think I would ever want a film camera with a smaller film format than that of the 35mm camera.

To allow the light meter to read light accurately in the Rollie 35 cameras, I now use an adapter that is the same diameter and thickness of the original mercury battery, but has a tray that holds a smaller current type battery within it. This is needed because the required voltage needs to be the same as the original mercury battery. Internationally, mercury batteries are no longer produced because the mercury that was used in them produced birth defects to children born in those locations where these batteries were made. Mercury is a heavy metal that, like lead, is poisonous to humans.

Pentax made an extremely high grade reflex camera system that use the Kodak 110 film cassettes, but again, the small format didn't yield very high quality pictures. Digital camera technology was also coming into the picture and helped kill off most all of smaller format film cameras. Now smart phones are killing off digital point and shoot cameras.

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Aug 20, 2017 13:45:39   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
R. Bush wrote:
The smallest film cameras in my collection are two Rollie 35s. One is a German made Rollie 35 that has a Carl Ziess f3.5/40mm Tessar lens and the other is a Rollie 35-S (the 'S' standing for being made in Singapore) with a Sonnar f2.8/40 lens. Unfortunately the light meter does not work in the Singapore made camera. Poor light meter units that quit working were the major shortcoming of this specific camera type.

I don't think I would ever want a film camera with a smaller film format than that of the 35mm camera.

To allow the light meter to read light accurately in the Rollie 35 cameras, I now use an adapter that is the same diameter and thickness of the original mercury battery, but has a tray that holds a smaller current type battery within it. This is needed because the required voltage needs to be the same as the original mercury battery. Internationally, mercury batteries are no longer produced because the mercury that was used in them produced birth defects to children born in those locations where these batteries were made. Mercury is a heavy metal that, like lead, is poisonous to humans.

Pentax made an extremely high grade reflex camera system that use the Kodak 110 film cassettes, but again, the small format didn't yield very high quality pictures. Digital camera technology was also coming into the picture and helped kill off most all of smaller format film cameras. Now smart phones are killing off digital point and shoot cameras.
The smallest film cameras in my collection are two... (show quote)


Being a "Pentaxian", I have a Pentax Auto 110 in my collection! (sadly, I only have the 24mm lens though) The Pentax 110 was a "system camera" I point this out as Minolta also made high end 110 SLR s but with fixed lenses.

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Aug 20, 2017 14:07:55   #
elwynn Loc: Near Atlanta, GA
 
Minox

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Aug 20, 2017 14:12:27   #
James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA
 
Nikonman44 wrote:
in its day it probably cost you 20 p.

Today its probably worth 100 quid.

I was at a car place yesterday. I had a 1966 vette back then and paid 3900 dollars for it new.

The one they had was on the block ( not as sharp as mine) for 100,000 dollars


I had a 1971 Buick Riviera (first year "boat tail") I bought it in the early 80s for $400 sold it for $500 - I don't want to know what they go for now. Probably a little more than $500!

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Aug 20, 2017 15:54:45   #
marki3rd Loc: Columbus, Indiana
 
Quinn 4 wrote:
Minox camera came after WWII. German made 1950s, All the James Bond type people use them in the 1950s and 60s. Minox camera is not hard to find today. Film, you will have better luck finding gold at the end of a rainbow. What kind of camera was use during WWII, I have no idea.


The Minox Camera did not come after WWII. It was invented in the early 20's and was used extensively during and following WWII.

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Aug 20, 2017 15:59:37   #
marki3rd Loc: Columbus, Indiana
 
James Slick wrote:
The original Minox (Riga, also known as the Minox I) was introduced in 1937 two years BEFORE World War Two. The later A,B and C came after the war when production went to Germany from Latvia.

Most people think of Minox as a cold war invention but Nazi spys had them well before.


Minox was developed in 1922 I believe.

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