Am I simply an old "fart?"
Aug 7, 2017 15:44:30 #
kenArchi wrote:
Are the real artists of post proccessing the one's who take a picture of a scene and then paint it on canvas with real ink and brushes?
No! Some maybe, but the artist isn't defined by the medium.
Aug 7, 2017 15:49:44 #
Those who paint from their photographs are as real artists as any others. Are they real good artists is the question. VerMeer is a real good artist and he was thought to have painted from camera obscura projections.
kenArchi wrote:
Are the real artists of post proccessing the one's who take a picture of a scene and then paint it on canvas with real ink and brushes?
Aug 7, 2017 16:00:24 #
Aug 7, 2017 16:00:33 #
Peterff wrote:
That sounds like a really expensive appetizer in a ridiculously trendy and overrated restaurant!
It is, but being a curmudgeon, I won't tell you!
Aug 7, 2017 16:04:05 #
wesm wrote:
It is, but being a curmudgeon, I won't tell you!
Aug 7, 2017 16:08:27 #
sirlensalot
Loc: Arizona
So you're thinking of joining the OF club? Welcome! Lots of topics - so little time. lol
Aug 7, 2017 16:08:28 #
sirlensalot
Loc: Arizona
So you're thinking of joining the OF club? Welcome! Lots of topics - so little time. lol
Aug 7, 2017 16:16:22 #
We have a family friend who is a 95 year old artists who majored in art painting in college.For years, she frowned on other artists who photographed a scene and went back to their studio to paint from the picture. She would say that the picture did not show the true colors and lighting conditions because they would have to rely too much on their memories.
And, we know how our memories begin to fade as we get older. this is my 86 year old statement.
And, we know how our memories begin to fade as we get older. this is my 86 year old statement.
Aug 7, 2017 16:24:04 #
AlfredU
Loc: Mooresville, NC
Kuzano wrote:
And that process is a lie. I also doubt seriously that the time between what our eyes saw and what we think we saw when we are post processing can hardly render a correct image (what the eyes saw at capture).
It seems like we all agree that the eye/brain see things differently than a camera. So it also stands to reason that we cannot really master our art until we learn how our camera sees things. I think Ansel Adams said something like this, only much more eloquently.
Aug 7, 2017 16:33:05 #
Fotoartist wrote:
Why aren't purists who want to capture exactly what they "see" in their photography shooting in stereo?
Each of our left and right eyes see things a little differently and our brain post processes that into a single image. That's called vision. A single lens camera is Not producing the vision we think we see with our two eyes.
Each of our left and right eyes see things a little differently and our brain post processes that into a single image. That's called vision. A single lens camera is Not producing the vision we think we see with our two eyes.
I am a "documentarian" but not a "purist"; I spent fifty years learning to capture on film/sensor what I was seeing. When I used Kodachrome, I had no chance at "do-overs", and I choose to maintain the same habits today as I enjoy my hobby. I do shoot exactly as I see. I can use either eye profitably, but because of a genetic defect, shared by my Dad and my daughter, I use only one eye at a time.
Aug 7, 2017 16:36:20 #
Heck I have referred to myself as an old fart or even the other f word with an er for a very long time it seems. I am never offended if someone calls me that heck my 7 year old grandson told his teacher one day he has an old fart who lives in the middle of the ocean, (that is when we lived on Maui moved from there a couple years ago) I think I am complementing myself on the ability to still shoot a good one out, or with the other to be able to get er done yet. Life is short call yourself whatever you want as long as it floats your boat. Oh yeah are you royalty or just using saying.
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Aug 7, 2017 16:40:54 #
Basil wrote:
Even Ansel Adams did post processing, but just did it in the dark room. He did a lot of things like dodging and burning of different areas of an image. Digital just allows for similar things to be done, only easier and with more control.
Especially Ansel Adams did magic in the darkroom; if I understand correctly, that is where his true fame came from.
On the other hand, the great street photographers, such as "Weegee" Felling and Gary Winogrand, spent minimal time inside, preferring to be outdoors instead.
Aug 7, 2017 16:52:15 #
If you see many of Ver Mere's paintings, you will notice his subjects were near a window with the sunlight illuminating the subject. Monet on the other hand, painted his haystacks at different times of the day to capture the effect of the light. Lookup the following, it gives an explanation about the Camera Obscura and its use.
Daguerreotype
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
When I took courses for my Associate's Degree in Graphic Design, we were told to use our cameras and the various instruments need to create our art work. This degree, along with mu BS and MS rounded out my education. I feel I still have much more to learn before I take my last breath 21 years from now.
Daguerreotype
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
When I took courses for my Associate's Degree in Graphic Design, we were told to use our cameras and the various instruments need to create our art work. This degree, along with mu BS and MS rounded out my education. I feel I still have much more to learn before I take my last breath 21 years from now.
Aug 7, 2017 16:54:41 #
I agree with many of the others here do not let any of what you were taught get in the way of producing a great photo they taught us the guidelines and helped us hone our abilities so that our eye could perceive what we wished to create. We are all artists though many of us do not think we are creative we are photographers all use thier eyes mind and creative vision to create an image that we think is acceptable. When I shot my photo assignments in the Navy as a Photographer I would use those lessons taught but still had to crop some and enhance the photo to bring out the subject as best we could, unlike the other Navy Photographer who posted here, I did all the work most of the time from the shot to the printed product as I was assigned to the Naval Intelligence sector ( I know Naval and Intelligence is a oxymoron), and most of the work was eyes only,
still seems to be that way as I have been trying to create a book or portfolio of my shots and have only been cleared to use 17 of the hundreds of photos I took 48 years ago go figure.
still seems to be that way as I have been trying to create a book or portfolio of my shots and have only been cleared to use 17 of the hundreds of photos I took 48 years ago go figure.
toxdoc42 wrote:
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Aug 7, 2017 17:45:22 #
AlfredU
Loc: Mooresville, NC
rehess wrote:
I am a "documentarian" but not a "purist"; I spent fifty years learning to capture on film/sensor what I was seeing. When I used Kodachrome, I had no chance at "do-overs", and I choose to maintain the same habits today as I enjoy my hobby. I do shoot exactly as I see. I can use either eye profitably, but because of a genetic defect, shared by my Dad and my daughter, I use only one eye at a time.
I have that same issue. It's called strabismus. I think it gives us a unique advantage in photography since we only see in 2-D anyway.
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