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Aug 4, 2017 22:36:32   #
whitewolfowner
 
chasgroh wrote:
...well, I'm a journalism major and was taught to back up what I write. That's all I'm asking, "uniformed(sic)" as I am. What you've stated is nothing more than anecdotal...face *that* fact and you can move on, otherwise you are as ignorant as those you accuse...




I've worked as both a journalist and a photojournalist. I know facts and what is a fact and what is fantasy land. There are those that run on fantasy and believe what they dream and those that know reality from fantasy and those that dance around it to make what they want to believe to be real in their pretty little heads, stored with tons of BS and have to wear big silly hats to hold it all for themselves. I also know what my responsibilities are to live in a democracy and why it takes their citizens to be involved to keep out the corruption and fraud. I also know that Americans have failed grossly in this area.

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Aug 4, 2017 22:47:29   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
There is no telling how many millions of Americans have been murdered in their elderly years by the government and the AMA.


The AMA does not render patient care, therefore has no opportunity to kill anyone. Neither does the government.Doctors and nurses render patient care, insurance companies and patients pay for it. Obamacare does not render patient care: it is an insurance scheme that does not work very well, but it can not kill anyone either. It can only limit the conditions for which it will pay, leaving either the doctor or the patient with the unpaid debt, poor but not dead!

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Aug 4, 2017 22:56:43   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
I've worked as both a journalist and a photojournalist. I know facts and what is a fact and what is fantasy land. There are those that run on fantasy and believe what they dream and those that know reality from fantasy and those that dance around it to make what they want to believe to be real in their pretty little heads, stored with tons of BS and have to wear big silly hats to hold it all for themselves. I also know what my responsibilities are to live in a democracy and why it takes their citizens to be involved to keep out the corruption and fraud. I also know that Americans have failed grossly in this area.
I've worked as both a journalist and a photojourna... (show quote)


...you might have worked in the media, but calling yourself a "journalist" is your personal fantasy land, pal...and you "...don't know what you know until you know what you don't know" (5$ to Thomas Carlysle)...I'm certainly no expert, and will call myself out on that, but in order to give credence to what I'm reading I need sources so I can make up my "uniformed" (sic) mind. If that's not fair and balanced, I don't know what is...what *you* say doesn't cut it, if you are professing facts; what caused you to say it, though, is the rubber meeting the road.

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Aug 4, 2017 23:44:34   #
whitewolfowner
 
CatMarley wrote:
The AMA does not render patient care, therefore has no opportunity to kill anyone. Neither does the government.Doctors and nurses render patient care, insurance companies and patients pay for it. Obamacare does not render patient care: it is an insurance scheme that does not work very well, but it can not kill anyone either. It can only limit the conditions for which it will pay, leaving either the doctor or the patient with the unpaid debt, poor but not dead!



You fail to understand that these entities do not directly do the actins but they completely control those that do administer them. So yes, they are the murders; the doctors and nurses are the agents.

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Aug 4, 2017 23:47:48   #
whitewolfowner
 
chasgroh wrote:
...you might have worked in the media, but calling yourself a "journalist" is your personal fantasy land, pal...and you "...don't know what you know until you know what you don't know" (5$ to Thomas Carlysle)...I'm certainly no expert, and will call myself out on that, but in order to give credence to what I'm reading I need sources so I can make up my "uniformed" (sic) mind. If that's not fair and balanced, I don't know what is...what *you* say doesn't cut it, if you are professing facts; what caused you to say it, though, is the rubber meeting the road.
...you might have worked in the media, but calling... (show quote)



You couldn't see the buger coming out of your nose in the mirror, so don't try your almighty BS on me. I worked in the field and did the grunt work and have mentored others. You are the one, as I said, in fantasy land. You couldn't recognize a fact unless the clinton news networked announced it to you; then it would be gold in your mind.

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Aug 5, 2017 00:33:21   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
whitewolfowner wrote:

I worked in the field and did the grunt work and have mentored others.


Hahahaha...boy, it sux to be them! You can't even spell booger...

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Aug 5, 2017 01:25:05   #
BHC Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
 
whitewolfowner wrote:



Hate to tell you but they have been killing elderly in hospitals and nursing homes and hospices for decades as soon as the gravy train runs out. The Doctor simply orders a shot that will kill them. Anyone in medicine knows this deep dark Satanic secret.

You are a liar. Your statement is libelous, misleading and an insult to every medical professional from EMT to FACS. What part of your experience could possibly justify your making that kind of disgusting statement. It's about time this thread went to the Attic!

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Aug 5, 2017 01:39:30   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
BHC wrote:
You are a liar. Your statement is libelous, misleading and an insult to every medical professional from EMT to FACS. What part of your experience could possibly justify your making that kind of disgusting statement. It's about time this thread went to the Attic!


...he's on a roll, give him enough rope...heh...

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Aug 5, 2017 02:31:02   #
whitewolfowner
 
chasgroh wrote:
Hahahaha...boy, it sux to be them! You can't even spell booger...


I spell buger the way I please, thank you.

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Aug 5, 2017 02:32:28   #
whitewolfowner
 
BHC wrote:
You are a liar. Your statement is libelous, misleading and an insult to every medical professional from EMT to FACS. What part of your experience could possibly justify your making that kind of disgusting statement. It's about time this thread went to the Attic!



It's the truth. Libel is a lie; this is not. Problem here is that so many are in fantasy land and have no idea what is going on in the world today.

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Aug 5, 2017 07:19:09   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
Not all facts have sources to refer others too. I first found about it when I was young and investigations into nursing homes back in the 70's revealed a real uncovered operation of this being done in a large number of them.

Just by the fact that you ask, shows how uniformed you are and how you have failed yourself and your country, living in a democracy.

Then, back in the 80's when I had my gaul bladder removed, I liked a nurse I had and asked her out. At dinner she told me that she was relatively new to her field and was ordered by a doctor to give a shot to a patient. She looked at the doctor and reminded him that with this patients condition, this shot would stop her from breathing. She was told to shut up and so as she is told and don't ever question orders form doctors. She gave the patient the shot and of course the patient ceased breathing and died. She noted on the patients file, it was marked that the patients insurance had run out a couple weeks earlier. Of course I never took her out again.

And lastly, as i'm sure most have not done so, check the rules of obozocare and see how many diseases, when a patient reaches a certain age, their care is cut off, even though it is life dependent. We are living Logan"s Run; instead of caracel, we have obozocare. There is no telling how many millions of Americans have been murdered in their elderly years by the government and the AMA.
Not all facts have sources to refer others too. I... (show quote)


Interesting first hand experiences. Can't get a better source than that. Thank you for sharing the information.

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Aug 5, 2017 10:03:48   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
You fail to understand that these entities do not directly do the actins but they completely control those that do administer them. So yes, they are the murders; the doctors and nurses are the agents.


Well, I am a doctor, and I am here to tell you we are not under the control of anyone! We are still professionals and we adhere to our oath of do no harm. If you believe this nonsense you are spouting, you are in need of serious help.

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Aug 5, 2017 10:18:39   #
joelcandids
 
In my observation, the liberal arguments about most anything are emotional and seldom supported by fact or constrained by either logic or reason. The problem with healthcare in the US today is government involvement. For example, in recent years the government has changed the recommendations for frequency on mammograms and colonoscopies citing this study or that. The studies may be correct in some cases but I think that these decisions should be made by a doctor based on patient knowledge. The government has never successfully managed anything and if you want to see what "single payer"looks like, check out the Veterans Administration. Apologies,I'm going to stop commenting except on photography. If you want to see my dose of conservatism in post, follow me on Facebook. Joel Williams regular page and Letters to My Children.

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Aug 5, 2017 11:24:35   #
Kissel vonKeister Loc: Georgia
 
CatMarley wrote:
Whatever coalition of people who decided to prevent the parents from obtaining the care they wanted for their child and holding him by force of law until he was beyond the possibility of treatment, and the legal and governmental agencies that enforced that decision, were responsible for his death. The genetic defect killed him, but while rescue was possible, the forced delay was equally responsible. If a child were drowning, and people restrained his parents who wanted to rescue him, until he was gone, yes, the water killed him, but so did those who held back the rescue.
Whatever coalition of people who decided to preven... (show quote)

Oh so now it's a coalition of people rather than the state.

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Aug 5, 2017 12:26:10   #
chasgroh Loc: Buena Park, CA
 
Kissel vonKeister wrote:
Oh so now it's a coalition of people rather than the state.


...uh, take a second and re-read what she wrote ("...and the legal and governmental agencies...").

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