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Jul 13, 2017 09:43:24   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
treadwl wrote:
I shoot primarily landscape and wildlife photos. I have won numerous photographic awards for my images. Easily 90% of my landscape photos are shot with my 24-70mm f2.8 Nikon lens Most of the remaining 10% are shot with my 70-200mm f2.8 lens. Usually my f-stop for landscape is set around f16-22. Thus, your 18-200 lens easily covers the range that I use the most.

If I was in your position I would focus on composition, an element which drives a good photo, and perhaps look at adding two filters. One a circular polarizer and a graduated Neutral Density Filter (GND). I almost always use the GND filter on my landscape shots and if there is water, ice or anything that produces glare then the polarizer is necessary. Work on the use of light (most of my photos are taken during the blue or golden hours or at night). Good photos are not about the gear----they are about the person behind the camera. Learn skills, then worry about gear.

Just my humble 2 cents worth.
I shoot primarily landscape and wildlife photos. ... (show quote)


Another FX camera user I suspect. The difference is important.

A graduated ND would be nice but the CP is more important and cheaper than a good graduated ND.

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Jul 13, 2017 09:51:07   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
augieg27 wrote:
Hello everyone,
Being a newbie and interested in landscape, I have a question:
Currently I have a Nikon D3300 with Nikon 50mm f/1.8 and Nikon 18-200mm.
Would they be enough to start with or should I get something else?
Thank you in advance.

You don't need a different or better lens or a better camera. You do need a good tripod. Unfortunately, good tripods aren't inexpensive.

The reason you need a good tripod is that you want to use a small aperture for maximum depth of field (f/11 and smaller) and you want to use the camera's base ISO to minimize noise. Small apertures reduce the amount of light entering the camera. Then the only way to capture sufficient light to get the proper exposure is to reduce the shutter speed to a level at which handholding the camera will result in blurred images--unless you use a tripod. The best light for landscape images is during the "golden hour" (around sunrise or sunset). You will often need exposure times of several seconds.

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Jul 13, 2017 11:22:37   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
Rich1939 wrote:
For getting started, your current lenses will work just fine. As you gain experience and familiarity with your equipment you will want to look into other lenses and when you do consider renting before you buy. I would strongly suggest that you investigate "stitching" multiple images with the help of software. Your 50mm will work very well for this.
I use "Autostitch" to create my panoramas--it works very well. Either of your lenses will take photos that can be stitched.

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Jul 13, 2017 11:33:09   #
whwiden
 
mrpentaxk5ii wrote:
The great thing about photographing landscapes is that you can use a lens from ultra wide to super telephoto depending on the subject, the distance you are from the subject and how much you want photographed.
photographing landscapes I find that I shoot between 12mm-50mm for most shots and at times up to 300mm. I will post a few photos, all take in a large area, the first was taken at 38mm, the second at 21mm and the last photo taken at 12mm, this photo was a large cove on the coast of southern Maine along the road in front of the rocks. to photograph landscapes you will be shooting at pre sunrise to sunset so you should invest in a good tripod if you don't have one. These photos were taken with Pentax DSLR'S the last two photos I used a Benro travel angle tripod.
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Those are very nice examples!

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Jul 13, 2017 11:38:37   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Landscapes are wide so I start with my Sigma 10-20 F3.5 on my D7000. Since I make slide videos with Pro Show I like to start with a broader scene and then let the pan/zoom features give me more flexibility. I can still do prints that have a broad sweep of the subject if I want to.

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Jul 13, 2017 12:17:35   #
augieg27 Loc: Central California
 
Gene51 wrote:
You can do landscape panos without a tripod or a pano head. I do them all the time. The 24-70G-ED F2.8 is not the best choice for landscape - I prefer a lens that has more even sharpness across the field. This lens is crazy sharp in the center, but soft at the edges and corners. The 24-70 VR on the other hand has more even sharpness - making it a better choice. On a D800, my go to lenses for landscapes ranges from 45 to 100mm. I have a 24-70 and a 14-24 which I rarely use for landscape. But when I am in close quarters, there are no lenses I'd rather have.

You can see some of my stuff here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/gene_lugo/
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Gene,
Your photos are amazing and an inspiration for me.
Thanks.

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Jul 13, 2017 12:27:35   #
augieg27 Loc: Central California
 
Your comments are all great! It is like taking a course in photography, I have learned a lot from you all and appreciate it a bunch. Thanks.

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Jul 13, 2017 13:27:34   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
jackpinoh wrote:
You don't need a different or better lens or a better camera. You do need a good tripod. Unfortunately, good tripods aren't inexpensive.

The reason you need a good tripod is that you want to use a small aperture for maximum depth of field (f/11 and smaller) and you want to use the camera's base ISO to minimize noise. Small apertures reduce the amount of light entering the camera. Then the only way to capture sufficient light to get the proper exposure is to reduce the shutter speed to a level at which handholding the camera will result in blurred images--unless you use a tripod. The best light for landscape images is during the "golden hour" (around sunrise or sunset). You will often need exposure times of several seconds.
You don't need a different or better lens or a bet... (show quote)


Or VR. That is why I suggested the new AF-P 10-20 VR.

VR works in many cases but of course not for several second exposures. You do need a tripod for those. I don't know yet but suspect the VR on this new lens is like on my 200-500: you can leave it on when using a tripod. That might be the real reason Nikon ditched the VR switch on the AF-P lenses.

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Jul 13, 2017 16:04:48   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
MtnMan wrote:
You might consider the new Nikon AF-P 10-20 mm lens: $309. It just came out.

It will work with your D3300 but you might need to update the camera firmware if you want to be able to turn off VR.

https://www.dpreview.com/news/6953738760/nikon-announces-budget-friendly-af-p-10-20mm-f4-5-5-6g-vr-lens-for-dx-bodies


there us an update for the D3300 to allow this. I do not think the lens will work without the update. The update is simple and easy. I just did it yeaterday. There are two updates for the D3300, a camera update and a Lens update.

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Jul 13, 2017 16:23:55   #
Thru the lens Loc: South Central PA
 
The best thing you can do is get out and practice! I used the Nikon 18-200 for a few years and got some great landscape photos. Before you choose another lens, take a bunch of landscape shots and check your data to see what range you use most often. That will help determine your next lens.
augieg27 wrote:
Hello everyone,
Being a newbie and interested in landscape, I have a question:
Currently I have a Nikon D3300 with Nikon 50mm f/1.8 and Nikon 18-200mm.
Would they be enough to start with or should I get something else?
Thank you in advance.

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Jul 13, 2017 16:31:58   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
jackpinoh wrote:
The reason you need a good tripod is that you want to use a small aperture for maximum depth of field (f/11 and smaller) and you want to use the camera's base ISO to minimize noise. Small apertures reduce the amount of light entering the camera. Then the only way to capture sufficient light to get the proper exposure is to reduce the shutter speed to a level at which handholding the camera will result in blurred images--unless you use a tripod.

Assuming use of VR/IS, at what shutter speed do you see use of a tripod to be essential??

Added: The OP has an APS-C camera. How much narrower than F/11 could the OP go without encountering diffraction issues??

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Jul 13, 2017 17:30:35   #
bkblaw
 
I have the same camera and lens - do a lot of landscape photography - rely on Aperture Priority - great camera, a lot of fun - enjoy

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Jul 13, 2017 18:03:30   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
rehess wrote:
Assuming use of VR/IS, at what shutter speed do you see use of a tripod to be essential??

Added: The OP has an APS-C camera. How much narrower than F/11 could the OP go without encountering diffraction issues??


Shutter speed to keep sharp images depends on the person and the VR version. For me 1/lens mm works.

How the person holds the camera and works the release matter most.

I shoot most landscapes on my FX camera at f22, as recommended by Brian Peterson. I never see diffraction as an issue. I try to not go less than f16 if I need a little more shutter speed. And I'll up the ISO to 200 or 500 if needed. This gives greatest depth of field.

I usually use f16 on my APS-C. I can't see any diffraction.

With my M4/3 f11 is OK.

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Jul 13, 2017 18:04:30   #
wesm Loc: Los Altos CA
 
augieg27 wrote:
Thank you. I'll do that.


One tip: Use the "Quote Reply" button to automatically include an abridgement of the post, and its author, so we know who you are talking to.

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Jul 14, 2017 17:00:50   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
augieg27 wrote:
Gene,
Your photos are amazing and an inspiration for me.
Thanks.


Thanks, Augie!

Beware of old, outdated information - Peterson may have recommended F22 for landscape a while ago, but the truth today is a little different.

http://backcountrygallery.com/lens-diffraction-in-photography/

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