Anyone Nicked your Act ?
Jul 12, 2017 08:52:03 #
rmalarz wrote:
A number of folks mentioned, "if your work was better". In this day of cell phone cameras, most consumers of people's work wouldn't recognize good work if they saw it. They'd be happy with crap from a cell phone if the price was less. So, don't denigrate the OP, whose work no one on here has seen.
--Bob
--Bob
Well said and agree.
Jul 12, 2017 09:06:31 #
Don't worry about it. Go on to something else unless you value being called the Official Photographer.
Jul 12, 2017 10:31:39 #
jwn
Loc: SOUTHEAST GEORGIA USA
Professionals charge for their work. Maybe two tier payment....basic fee to show up and shoot....additional $$ by sale of photos from YOUR site, offer to split the revenue from the sale of photos. This way the event people will market your site to participants and not support others.
Jul 12, 2017 10:59:48 #
Happened to me 6 months ago at an organization I donate time and money to. When I saw the posted results of the other two student photographers I shook my head. When I was asked again I turned her down, she then related to me that she thought the student work was sub par, but she is in no position to turn down the offers because of the students are related to her boss. They also changed the display tool from zenfolio to FB. They also stopped feeding the "hired help". Although I still donate money I no longer do photo work.
Jul 12, 2017 11:14:40 #
They'll stab you in the back first chance they get. The kid was probably somebody's offspring.
Jul 12, 2017 11:41:42 #
dieseldave wrote:
I think that a good part of the 'problem' is that most people and some photographers don't know what is a good photo. It's like the old saw 'I don't know much about art, but. I know what I like.'
"...you don't know what you know until you know what you don't know." (A paraphrase from Thomas Carlysle...the Great Scot)
Jul 12, 2017 12:25:01 #
rmalarz wrote:
As suggested, even though there is monetary exchan... (show quote)
Spot on, Bob. Because photography is not allowed during the Jewish Sabbath, we take Bar/Bat Mizvah photos in advance. I always got there early, especially with two pros who are still dear friends, and watch them set up their lighting. We would schmooze about photography or anything else. Today, as likely as not I show up to find a family friend with a Brand Whatever Deluxe Kit straight from Costco. Many times I have to tell them what to shoot. One of my dear pro friends came up with several great photo ideas--those I never share! They belong to him. But the weirdest for me is when I come in and a new pro hands me a business card, then shoots the whole session with straight-on on camera flash. Most of them need to be told what to shoot as well (even though I asked if s/he has done this before, and was told yes.)
Jul 12, 2017 12:44:18 #
Lukabulla wrote:
Has anyone on here had this issue and how did you ... (show quote)
I have a graduate engineer who was laid off in the wake of the 2008 Banksters depression. When he went job-hunting, it took over a year to find an opening, but then he had to take a job at the same level as unpaid interns and at 1/2 his previous salary. Companies are taking the free labor of unpaid interns. This is the same phenomenon--or similar anyway. (Of course meanwhile, he lost his home.)
Hey. I've got a cellphone. I'll take the pictures for free.
Jul 12, 2017 13:02:09 #
To be named "official photographer" is nothing new folks! It always meant they appreciate your freely given time and work,
and you are supposed to be delighted with the "honor" they bestowed on you.
Happened to me ONCE. When these "nice" people stalled on paying even the modest compensation they offered,
they weren't so happy when I withdrew the collection of slides.
Next move, they tried to bribe me for about $300, and that so disgusting I walked out the door.
Then they made an effort to try to intimidate me with legal action which was so ridiculous it could be ignored.
Would you have taken the $300 and forgiven them?
and you are supposed to be delighted with the "honor" they bestowed on you.
Happened to me ONCE. When these "nice" people stalled on paying even the modest compensation they offered,
they weren't so happy when I withdrew the collection of slides.
Next move, they tried to bribe me for about $300, and that so disgusting I walked out the door.
Then they made an effort to try to intimidate me with legal action which was so ridiculous it could be ignored.
Would you have taken the $300 and forgiven them?
Jul 12, 2017 13:18:50 #
Only my 2 cents here, but when you offer any work for free, you are not looked at as being any good. You could be the most talented photographer in the world, but if you offer your services for free, they will not appreciate anything you do, and don't think it's a "big deal" to give the work to someone else who is also free.
If you enjoyed it that much, pay the entrance fee, and take photographs.
If you enjoyed it that much, pay the entrance fee, and take photographs.
Jul 12, 2017 13:19:02 #
If the only reason they bumped you was because they could get out of giving you free admission, then they as people were not worth your effort to do something for them. Only shows they have no integrity and you were used and taken for a fool from the beginning. Move on and just watch them do it again to the next guy that comes along. Eventually, the word will get around and no one will help them for anything and they will end up having to pay large fees to even have someone take out the trash for them. Sure it hurts, no one likes being used. Chalk it up as a learning experience and move on. Remember what goes around, comes around.
Jul 12, 2017 15:02:54 #
Lukabulla wrote:
My work for 5 years to them was always appreciated by the Promoter .
It's Just that they can now get a Photographer for Nothing ... it's money no more and no Less .
It's Just that they can now get a Photographer for Nothing ... it's money no more and no Less .
Unfortunately, you are far from the only one this happens to. It just happened to a good friend of mine who had a local school contract for 33 years. His work was excellent, yet he is no longer doing that job. Fact of life.
Jul 12, 2017 15:45:32 #
I don't think the OP should get upset. The people there at the events decided to get the free pics because they didn't think the OP pics are worth their money. In business it doesn't matter how good or how bad your product is it's the customers who make the decision.
Jul 12, 2017 15:50:29 #
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't think the OP should get upset. The people there at the events decided to get the free pics because they didn't think the OP pics are worth their money. In business it doesn't matter how good or how bad your product is it's the customers who make the decision.
No it's totally determined mostly by the greed of those making the decisions. Money rules today and the more immoral we get, the more money will rule.
Jul 12, 2017 15:56:43 #
BebuLamar wrote:
[are]the OP pics are worth their money[?]
This is indeed the unknown quantity.
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