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Jul 9, 2017 19:57:44   #
kbr983
 
Love my flip screen, and have never used for selfies. Having a flexible screen has come in handy for awkward shots, for shots where I may need to hold camera above my head, for fooling grandkids into thinking I'm not taking their picture.

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Jul 10, 2017 00:05:46   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
SOLINA DAVE wrote:
If you were buying a new camera, would the presence of a flip-out screen be a mandatory item? Thanks..................Dave
YES !! Partial explanation of my 'upgrade' from my Canon 7D to the 80D
Disclaimer: I did not read all 5 pages of this thread.

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Jul 10, 2017 01:09:21   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
SOLINA DAVE wrote:
All very good points. Thank you! I'm not sure I'm aging like most of us. I think it may be at a somewhat more accelerated rate than that. And that's a really good point about the low-down shots. I suppose one simply has to be careful with it, and not abuse it, so they don't break it. I agree that it's probably nice to have on hand. Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
And I hate to admit it. But I'm too damned old for touch screens. I see my son and my daughter moving stuff around on their smart phones, and it just leaves me in the dust!

Just give me a button to push. I love to push buttons. Especially the one that says, "AUTO". Ha! Ha!...................................Dave
All very good points. Thank you! I'm not sure I'm ... (show quote)


The ones on the Nikon D5xxxs aren't fragile at all. I don't know where you get that idea from.

I've had them over five years on a D5100 and currently have two D5300s.

There are several uses beyond those mentioned. It makes it possible to use my camera on my telescope. It makes night sky shots doable. You can use it taking group selfies when on travel.

I had a Sony NEX7 with flip screen. I used it very little.

I didn't think I'd have much use for a touch screen. Not of that generation. Then I got Panasonic Lumix GM 5 mirrorless that has one. I insisted on that camera because it has an EVF. I now find I hardly ever use the EVF because the LCD is so good in bright light...and I use the touch screen. I now have GAS for a D5500!

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Jul 10, 2017 03:50:16   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
The advantages of an articulated screen are well documented above - but for me the greatest advantage is when shooting landscapes on my tripod. Any tripod is more stable when extended to less height. I find it great to be able to look down at the screen when on the tripod - composing at my leisure.

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Jul 10, 2017 07:00:47   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Delderby wrote:
The advantages of an articulated screen are well documented above - but for me the greatest advantage is when shooting landscapes on my tripod. Any tripod is more stable when extended to less height. I find it great to be able to look down at the screen when on the tripod - composing at my leisure.


Another alternative which might be of interest is a field monitor, many camera's have hdmi out and something like this might be useful
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Viltrox-DC-50-5-inch-HD-Video-Field-Monitor-Display-AV-for-DSLR-Camera-Camcorder-/192192346618

thats a 5" model for about $85 and a hotshoe mount. there is also usb tethering as an option for some.

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Jul 10, 2017 08:07:19   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
blackest wrote:
Another alternative which might be of interest is a field monitor, many camera's have hdmi out and something like this might be useful
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Viltrox-DC-50-5-inch-HD-Video-Field-Monitor-Display-AV-for-DSLR-Camera-Camcorder-/192192346618

thats a 5" model for about $85 and a hotshoe mount. there is also usb tethering as an option for some.


Interesting - thanks for the tip.

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Jul 10, 2017 17:16:22   #
SOLINA DAVE
 
Delderby wrote:
The advantages of an articulated screen are well documented above - but for me the greatest advantage is when shooting landscapes on my tripod. Any tripod is more stable when extended to less height. I find it great to be able to look down at the screen when on the tripod - composing at my leisure.


That's an interesting point you make, regarding the advantage of having an articulationg screen for use with a low tri-pod. I can see myself, at times, benefiting from that. I think the reference our Irish friend below made, about possibly using a field monitor, would be an excellent idea, and appeal to some. But personally I wouldn't use it enough, to warrant it's purchase. I can definitely see the attraction for someone who would be composing a lot of photos with a camera positioned fairly low.
You could use it to take a photo of that beautiful dog of yours. He looks very distinguished. Where did you get his tuxedo?

Dave

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Jul 10, 2017 17:47:32   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
SOLINA DAVE wrote:
If you were buying a new camera, would the presence of a flip-out screen be a mandatory item? If so why, and would you also need it to tilt, and do a 180º for selfies? Or would you be quite satisfied with a standard screen?...

I find a movable screen handy shooting backyard wildlife and such behind a blind or near the ground, holding the camera at arm's length over my head, and for making copies using a stand. It's not mandatory by any means, but I really like that at least one of my cameras has it.

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Jul 10, 2017 18:43:30   #
bdk Loc: Sanibel Fl.
 
My Nikon 5200 has a flip out screen, great for shooting flowers, bugs, anything you have to get low, the screen helps. Then there is the other use.
I sit along a sidewalk, flip out the screen, snap pix as you walk by and you never know I'm taking your pic as the camera may be pointed at you but Im NOT looking into the view finder. works great. ( wife hates it)

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Jul 10, 2017 19:07:14   #
jccash Loc: Longwood, Florida
 
bdk wrote:
My Nikon 5200 has a flip out screen, great for shooting flowers, bugs, anything you have to get low, the screen helps. Then there is the other use.
I sit along a sidewalk, flip out the screen, snap pix as you walk by and you never know I'm taking your pic as the camera may be pointed at you but Im NOT looking into the view finder. works great. ( wife hates it)


My D500 and Sony A6000 have tilt monitors. Good for low and high angle.

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Jul 11, 2017 01:58:18   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
SOLINA DAVE wrote:
If you were buying a new camera, would the presence of a flip-out screen be a mandatory item? If so why, and would you also need it to tilt, and do a 180º for selfies? Or would you be quite satisfied with a standard screen?
I've always just had a standard screen, and I've always coped. I'm wondering if a flip screen would get enough use to warrant having it. They have always seemed to me, to be a very fragile item, and not worth the bother. I'm curious about your ideas regarding the pros and cons.
Also while I've got your attention, what's your opinion regarding touch-screens? Do you love 'em? Hate 'em? Or do you get along just fine with standard switching? I have this feeling about getting my greasy fingerprints all over my beautiful HD screen.

Thanks..................Dave
If you were buying a new camera, would the presenc... (show quote)


I would say to critics, don't knock it until you try it. I don't have one on my Nikon D810, but I do have one with the touch feature on my Canon compact (G7X Mark II) . I don't see anything wrong with flipping it all the way up for an occasional selfie with my wife. I've done many selfies while traveling that were not composed properly. Holding out the camera in front of me and pointing where I think I am is just crude. Flipping up the screen and turning the camera around lets me compose the picture properly. Then there is the touch feature. Moving the focus point around on the D810 is a bit crude and slow. (Not all focus modes really require this with tracking enabled while recomposing.) With the Canon, I can touch the subject to be focused on, recompose the picture if necessary, and it tracks the subject.

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Jul 11, 2017 03:29:19   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
SOLINA DAVE wrote:
That's an interesting point you make, regarding the advantage of having an articulationg screen for use with a low tri-pod. I can see myself, at times, benefiting from that. I think the reference our Irish friend below made, about possibly using a field monitor, would be an excellent idea, and appeal to some. But personally I wouldn't use it enough, to warrant it's purchase. I can definitely see the attraction for someone who would be composing a lot of photos with a camera positioned fairly low.
You could use it to take a photo of that beautiful dog of yours. He looks very distinguished. Where did you get his tuxedo?

Dave
That's an interesting point you make, regarding th... (show quote)


Dylan was rescued in Spain - and was wearing it then.

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Jul 11, 2017 06:26:33   #
Retina Loc: Near Charleston,SC
 
SOLINA DAVE wrote:
...Also while I've got your attention, what's your opinion regarding touch-screens? Do you love 'em? Hate 'em? Or do you get along just fine with standard switching? I have this feeling about getting my greasy fingerprints all over my beautiful HD screen...

The idea of fingerprints on an expensive camera does run counter to what many traditional, or dare I say older folks tend to think about photographic equipment. Smart phones helped change all that with the widespread use of small, high resolution touch displays, especially since nearly all of them also contain hi-res cameras with advanced processing features. Maybe the solution is cleaning. I never had to deal with cleaning sensors before. You just get used to it unless the whole idea seems just too unorthodox and you decide you don't need that type of camera.

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Jul 11, 2017 07:57:31   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Retina wrote:
The idea of fingerprints on an expensive camera does run counter to what many traditional, or dare I say older folks tend to think about photographic equipment. Smart phones helped change all that with the widespread use of small, high resolution touch displays, especially since nearly all of them also contain hi-res cameras with advanced processing features. Maybe the solution is cleaning. I never had to deal with cleaning sensors before. You just get used to it unless the whole idea seems just too unorthodox and you decide you don't need that type of camera.
The idea of fingerprints on an expensive camera do... (show quote)


I think all vids will be touch sensitive soon - even lap tops. I used to tell people "don't touch the screen" it was more to reduce scratch marks (ladies long finger nails) than greasy marks. I remember a female employee ruining a screen by "dusting" it with the back of her hand - adorned with an engagement ring! So yes - I think we oldies have to get used to a complete turn round. It may be that improvements in plastics have made screens less prone to scratches.

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Jul 11, 2017 09:18:18   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Delderby wrote:
I think all vids will be touch sensitive soon - even lap tops. I used to tell people "don't touch the screen" it was more to reduce scratch marks (ladies long finger nails) than greasy marks. I remember a female employee ruining a screen by "dusting" it with the back of her hand - adorned with an engagement ring! So yes - I think we oldies have to get used to a complete turn round. It may be that improvements in plastics have made screens less prone to scratches.


My iPhone has had a screen protector on it for seven months of daily use. It has just a few fine scratches on it. I clean it with rubbing alcohol when it gets nasty.

I have had this phone in my pocket with coins, keys, etc., so the protective case is a mess. But the screen is fine.

My GH4 has a fully articulated screen. It folds in to protect the OLED touch display. It can be reversed for use, or flipped out, or whatever. I'm not worried about it. The camera is more rugged and weather-resistant than my old Nikon F3! When I can find the same type of screen protector for the GH4 that I have on my phone, I'll buy one.

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