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Jul 10, 2017 11:20:58   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Do any of you remember discussion and controversy when the SLR was introduced and threatened the TLR? When I got into photography, the SLR was the "standard," although the TLR was still popular. I had a nice Yashika Mat 124, which I used interchangeably with my Miranda and Nikon.

I'm wondering if TLR users thought the SLR was going to take over. We now have mirrorless cameras with excellent specs producing excellent photographs.


8x10 -> 4x5 -> various 120/220 6cm formats -> 35 perforated (135) rangefinder -> 35 SLRs -> digital formats...

The beat goes on. I, too, had a Yashica Mat 124G. They're all cameras... some suited to certain things better than others.

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Jul 10, 2017 11:21:51   #
Griff Loc: Warwick U.K.
 
John K -
" Later had a Bronica, which was very noisy,"

Amen to that.
The mirror slap was atrocious.
With mine, when it went off, you could actually feel the recoil . . .

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Jul 10, 2017 12:10:16   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
bobmcculloch wrote:
I had a Ciroflex and later a Mamiya C3, never thought abut 35mm taking over in general, 4x the negative size gave so much better enlargement , if I was willing to carry it the 2 1/4 square was king, 35mm was easier to carry, or for slides, remember 127 slides?


One of the finest photographs I can remember is a photo of my older brother and I standing in front of his new red VW convertible in upstate NY back in the 60's just before I went to Vietnam. The photo was taken by my uncle who used a baby Rollei using 127 slide film.

Dennis

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Jul 10, 2017 13:16:35   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Do any of you remember discussion and controversy when the SLR was introduced and threatened the TLR? When I got into photography, the SLR was the "standard," although the TLR was still popular. I had a nice Yashika Mat 124, which I used interchangeably with my Miranda and Nikon.

I'm wondering if TLR users thought the SLR was going to take over. We now have mirrorless cameras with excellent specs producing excellent photographs.


I spent a bundle on Mamiyaflex including three lenses. It actually was an excellent camera, but I bought in on the down side. It was my small camera in comparison to my Linhof 4x5 with the cutfilm carriers.

But I think I'm ahead of the curve with my Sony MILCs. I'm looking forward to the a7000 (or whatever name) The a6500 didn't give me enough extra to buy it. Sony needs to improve two things. 1. They need to improve the sdcard insertion--it is backward and hard to use. 2. I'd like to have a second sdcard slot to keep a backup card going. Oh. And 3. More Tamron, Tokina and Sigma lenses would be nice.

It would be great if CaNik were to join the club. They have both brought out crappy MILCs that are way behind Fuji and Sony. Even the Canon M5 is too little too late. Not worth the money.

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Jul 10, 2017 13:19:20   #
oldgeezer3 Loc: SoCal
 
jerryc41 wrote:


I'm wondering if TLR users thought the SLR was going to take over. We now have mirrorless cameras with excellent specs producing excellent photographs.


In 1958 my dad bought a Roliechord, little brother to Rolieflex. He didn't think a 35mm would do what he wanted. In 1959 i bought a Richoflex, which I still have, both of those cameras were very good for a lot of newspaper work. At least what we were doing. After I got out of the Army, I bought an Exacta VX iib. Took a lot of good photos. In the mid 70's I bought a Pentax Spotmatic, took a lot of photos with it, too. After I got married, We, (now), got several point-n-shoot toys before we got a Canon T2i. Our (my) experience is that the TLR & the SLR are handled differently and for different purposes. The DSLR is more stable in MY hand and with my age and hand stability difficulty, I get lots better photos with the DSLR. Best of luck to you all!

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Jul 10, 2017 13:51:07   #
Wingpilot Loc: Wasilla. Ak
 
I got my first SLR, a Yashica TL Super, in 1967. I took a lot of great pictures with it. At the time, the TLR was king, and the DLR fans were quite vocal about how 35mm was a passing thing. Their argument was that 2 1/4 x 2 1/4 was the best format, and that 35mm was just too small to produce good images. I understood that thinking, but felt that 35mm was the way of the future. Seems that was correct. I never did have a TLR, although I had a friend that had one, and I lusted after his Rollieflex. Unfortunately, I couldn't afford one. At the same time, my dad's only camera was an older Kodak folding bellows camera that he carried in the field with him (he was a wildlife management biologist) and he took some great pictures and never used a light meter! I'm guessing his standard was the sunny 16 rule.

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Jul 10, 2017 14:31:10   #
johnala
 
My first 35mm camera was a Ricoh (who ever heard of them in 1954) non-SLR, purchased at the PX of the 3rd Infantry Division in Korea where I was stationed. At the PX you could buy a package that included a roll of film and the cost of processing same. The PX shipped them somewhere; the result was small boxes with Kodachrome slides wrapped in what looked like onion skin, and that's how I have kept them all these years. Just can't kill them. My first SLR was a Praktica MTL50 with two Chinon lenses, a 28MM and a macro zoom 40-105, from a lady friend of mine who had purchased it all in order to take pictures of a new grandchild, and after ruining two rolls of film she sold me the whole package for $125. This was in around 1980 and I used them until about a year ago when I just couldn't handle the weight of the 40-105 with flash mounted, and I just don't use a tripod, so what I use now is a Vivitar 220SL, with a classic Pentax SMC Takumar 50MM 1.4 lens and a number 2 close-up lens mounted. I bought the Vivitar at a monthly swap meet at one of the local High schools in the original box with original foam for $20. Whoopee! In case you don't recognize any of the names here, it is all Praktica (usually thought of as Pentax) screw. Me? I'm 85 years old and I say film forever.

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Jul 10, 2017 14:58:08   #
Kissel vonKeister Loc: Georgia
 
jerryc41 wrote:
My first camera cost $0.98. It was a half frame 120 camera from a drug store. Push the shutter lever down for one photo and then push it up to take another. I was probably 8 at the time.

I never knew a glass plate or Daguerrotype camera was that inexpensive.

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Jul 10, 2017 14:59:44   #
Kissel vonKeister Loc: Georgia
 
bobmcculloch wrote:
Yep, rather flimsy too, not much cardboard in the mount, used to be able to buy them at most tourist traps


1 5/8" square.

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Jul 10, 2017 15:11:48   #
ORpilot Loc: Prineville, Or
 
Photography started with a Kodak Starflash 127 film. Mom a Kodak bellows using 616 film. Dad had an Argus 35mm that had a pop out lens, and zone focus, forerunner to the C3. It went to WWll with him. My second camera was a used Zeiss Contaflex 35mm. I was hooked on Zeiss lenses from then on. Next was an Exakta VX1000, all Zeiss lenses, 35, 50, 85, 135, and 150mm. And A Gossen Luna Pro meter. In College I used the schools 8x10 view cameras. There I perfected my 35mm B&W. Next came a Mamyia 645, with almost every lens they made. Then I got a Rollie 35s to carry in my flight suit leg pocket in case my Alert B-52 ever answered the klaxon and went to war. Next came a Rollie 35 SLR, 28mm, 50mm, and my first zoom 70-200mm. A 4x5 with 3 lenses, then a used 8x10 and several lenses. Now I'm out of the AirForce and teaching photography at the University of Alaska. Technology moves on, autofocus comes along. The university did cold weather testing for Minolta and Canon. Minolta performed better than Canon in the cold of Alaska. I acquired a Maxxum 7000i. While working on my MFA, I got to use the 1st generation, experimental Sony Mavica. I got several point and shoot early digital cameras. Then less than 10 yrs after I first used the Mavica, I got a Minolta D7, then a Sony a65. The stable is now rounded out with a Canon SX-50 my travel and wildlife camera. Canon power shot a3300, when my cell phone just won't do. A Sony a99ll takes 1st place now over my a65. My Sony a6000 lets me use all of my old Rollie and Zeiss lenses. The a6000 is slowly replacing my Canon SX-50 for traveling. I really love the long zoom of the SX-50. Maybe I have too many cameras. The only one i have sold over the years is the 8x10. Each does something really well. After 50+ years in photography, Why compromise if I don't have to. Happy Shooting

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Jul 10, 2017 15:20:25   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Kissel vonKeister wrote:
I never knew a glass plate or Daguerrotype camera was that inexpensive.


The camera was cheap but the chemicals were very expensive. That is what Matthew Brady told me anyway.

Dennis

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Jul 10, 2017 15:25:23   #
Kissel vonKeister Loc: Georgia
 
dennis2146 wrote:
The camera was cheap but the chemicals were very expensive. That is what Matthew Brady told me anyway.

Dennis


Oh you knew him too, huh?

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Jul 10, 2017 15:28:49   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Kissel vonKeister wrote:
Oh you knew him too, huh?


Yes. He used to come around all the time when Abe and I were discussing the faults of General Burnside. Matt was always hitting us up to take photos. Abe finally consented but I never liked his style. What did I know? If only I had bought a number of his original prints back then for maybe a nickel apiece. But, of course I didn't. Matt's mom did make one hell of a bison sandwich.

Dennis

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Jul 10, 2017 15:32:53   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Matt's mom did make one hell of a bison sandwich.

Dennis


Bison?
Great!
Now I'm hungry again!!!!
Pass the ketchup.

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Jul 10, 2017 16:50:21   #
JohnK
 
I love the humor in this thread. Might have something to do with the age of most of the responders!

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