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Jul 4, 2017 15:17:08   #
whitewolfowner
 
RolandHalpern wrote:
Any one have experience with the AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8E FL ED VR? I have a 70 to 300 Nikkor 4.5 that's OK for nature stuff (mostly what I shoot), and would sure like the added speed of the f/2.8, but wonder about the benefit considering cost and the loss of 100 mm. (My 70-300 is a DX, the 70-200 is FX - I am presently shooting on a D7000).



Search for a used 1998 Nikon 80-200mm f2.8 EDIF Af-S lens. In excellent condition they go for 900-1000 and you will not be disappointed at all. Cream of the crop (with maybe the exception of the new $2800 one, haven't seen a reliable report on it yet).

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Jul 4, 2017 19:55:46   #
2nefoto
 
Plain and simple, 70-200 (2.8) is the better lens. Therefore, two questions first do you really need a better lens, second; can you afford it. It's really that simple. It's your call

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Jul 4, 2017 20:13:35   #
whitewolfowner
 
2nefoto wrote:
Plain and simple, 70-200 (2.8) is the better lens. Therefore, two questions first do you really need a better lens, second; can you afford it. It's really that simple. It's your call




Better lens than what? You have to state what you are comparing the 70-200 f2.8 too. And there are three alone that Nikon has put out. You have to be specific if you want to help the OP.

I can tell the OP that the 80-200 I recommended is far superior to the first two 70-200 f2.8's Nikon put out. The first two 70-200 f2.8's Nikon out out get very soft at the 200mm end; far softer in the second one than the first.

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Jul 4, 2017 20:20:49   #
2nefoto
 
The original question compared the 70-200 (2.8) to a variable 70-300. I saw no reason to repeat the lens size. Regardless of model any 70-200 (2.8) (my opinion) is better then the lens originally mentioned.

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Jul 4, 2017 21:41:10   #
sterrill Loc: missouri
 
I love my 70 to 200. A great lens. Much more versatile than you might think.

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Jul 4, 2017 21:46:20   #
whitewolfowner
 
2nefoto wrote:
The original question compared the 70-200 (2.8) to a variable 70-300. I saw no reason to repeat the lens size. Regardless of model any 70-200 (2.8) (my opinion) is better then the lens originally mentioned.



I agree with you there whole heartedly. I didn't know if you were responding to me or the OP since you didn't quote reference your reply and it was under my response. Actually, tthe 70-300 and 70 or 80-200's are in two different classes of lenses and can hardly be compared.

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Jul 4, 2017 22:30:48   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
Dan De Lion wrote:
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Check out the Nikkor 70-200 f4 lens. It is as sharp or sharper than any of the 2.8s. At half the price, it is much lighter and IMO handles better.

Remember that in equivalent focal lengths you'll going from a 105-450mm to a 105-300mm lens.

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I second that. It's the one I bought. Sharp as a tack. Not unbearably heavy for what you get. The only negative is that if you want a factory tripod collar (sold separately), it's overpriced. I don't feel I need one. It doesn't seem heavy enough to demand one.

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Jul 5, 2017 00:08:27   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
The 80-200mm AF-S should be avoided. There are no spare parts for the AF module that has a high failure rate.

The two ring 80-200mm f/2.8 AF-D is optically good. It has no VR and can be touchy focusing at near minimum focus distance. It is low cost but needs a camera with the built in focus motor (D7000 is fine).

The original 70-200mm VR is a great lens on a DX body. It vignettes to much on a FF body.

The 70-200mm VR II is great for FX bodies, and the new FL version is even better (and more expensive too).

For any of the DX bodies I would recommend the original 70-200 mm f/2.8 VR model.

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Jul 5, 2017 00:20:31   #
waykee7 Loc: Cortez, Colorado
 
I bought the 70-200 FL in January and use it on a D810. The first time I used it, the results were stunning, and it's become my favorite lens. Thom Hogan says that if he had a prime that performed as well as this lens at 70mm he would think it was a very good prime; same at 135mm and 200mm. I agree.

So I've owned a number of old manual focus Nikkors dating back to the early 1970s, and 4 lenses for a Pentax 6x7. And I currently own or have owned a number of lenses for my various Nikons that are modern, autofocus lenses. The old adage of "buy the best glass you can afford" is fine if you don't have a family, mortgage, car payment, need for health insurance etc., but a health issue in January prompted me to buy 4 lenses, the 70-200FL, 24-70 f2.8G, Tamron 15-30 f2.8 and the Tamron 150-600 G2.

A premier lens like that FL won't make you a better photographer, but it sure will ratchet up your image quality. What I didn't appreciate beforehand, but appreciated on Day 1, is that the sharpness, saturation, and contrast as a whole different ballgame with a premium lens.

We all have our price points, above which more expensive lenses seem to offer diminishing returns in terms of cost/value. The 3rd party offerings from Tamron and Sigma are viable choices; we live in a golden age of lenses in which the pixel peepers may fuss over minutia, but the truth is the zooms today are quite good. I had an 18-55 DX and a 70-300 that I made many photographs with that I liked. Note I don't say "good photographs"; but photographs I liked. Those photographs I made with the D90 and those lenses still are photographs I "like", and while they don't have the IQ of my D810 and new lenses, most people I know look at them and say "man, that's a good photograph".

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Jul 5, 2017 19:54:06   #
SquareRoot Loc: southeast Missouri
 
Over a year ago, I bought my 70-200 VRII f/2.8 used on eBay, wanting better baseball pics at night. Sometimes the lights at small-town baseball diamonds ain't much to brag about! But we can stop the flight of a baseball.
Taken about sundown; then an hour later.


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