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Jul 2, 2017 14:35:03   #
sawdust_128
 
There are no objective answers to a question for which the fundamental nature is subjective.

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Jul 2, 2017 14:41:23   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
sawdust_128 wrote:
There are no objective answers to a question for which the fundamental nature is subjective.



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Jul 2, 2017 14:43:44   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
tdekany wrote:
Can a popular photo be not great?

PS: I really like your photos. Good stuff.


Sure a popular photo can be great. Just as a crappy photo can be popular. It's in the eyes of the beholder. There is no right or wrong here. It's all subjective. I've made images that some people refer to as great. Others think the same image is crap. I'm fine with that.


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Jul 2, 2017 14:54:10   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Who is this God like figure you worship Ansel Adams or something?

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Jul 2, 2017 15:05:20   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Apaflo wrote:
If I shot to please tdekany... I would starve. Instead I am a over weight old fart.

Anyone wanting just a quick sample can go to this link:

http://apaflo.com/gallery4

There are 45 images, and I challenge any one who thinks even one is "just a snapshot" in any of these derogatory definitions.


You can challenge me any time. No one in their right mind would think that these pictures were taken by a professionall photographer.

Lets take light, and subject matter out of the conversation. It leaves composition on the table. You seem to have no skills for composition. Anyone could press the shutter and take these pictures. There is nothing special about them.

Even without comparing you to this photographer - http://ljhollowayphotography.com/families/

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Jul 2, 2017 15:08:00   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Kiron Kid wrote:
Sure a popular photo can be great. Just as a crappy photo can be popular. It's in the eyes of the beholder. There is no right or wrong here. It's all subjective. I've made images that some people refer to as great. Others think the same image is crap. I'm fine with that.


Who are those people? It seems that a lot of members on this forum think that they are experts due to using a DSLR.

Your example though is not one of your better ones.

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Jul 2, 2017 15:23:43   #
Dan De Lion Loc: Montana
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
What comes after "Images"? After all, penultimate means "next to the last".


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My own pics, of course (PICs)


Selfish is what my tab thinks I mean when I type selfie. Thanks Amazon Fire.

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Jul 2, 2017 15:28:55   #
Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.
 
tdekany wrote:
Who are those people? It seems that a lot of members on this forum think that they are experts due to using a DSLR.

Your example though is not one of your better ones.


Owning a camera does not make one a photographer. It makes them a camera owner. Any particular snaps of mine that you particularly enjoy or consider my better efforts.

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KK

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Jul 2, 2017 15:34:29   #
Horseart Loc: Alabama
 
Graham Roberthall wrote:
Simple question (!) When does a picture stop being a 'snapshot' and become a 'Photograph' What exactly is the difference or definition of each ?
Regards
Graham


JMHO, to me it's all in your mind. When I look at a picture, I see it one of three ways. It's either a snapshot, a picture or a photograph.
Maybe I think of them as Elementary school, High School and college.

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Jul 2, 2017 15:55:38   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Horseart wrote:
JMHO, to me it's all in your mind. When I look at a picture, I see it one of three ways. It's either a snapshot, a picture or a photograph.
Maybe I think of them as Elementary school, High School and college.


Nice analogy.

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Jul 2, 2017 16:28:09   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
Graham Roberthall wrote:
Simple question (!) When does a picture stop being a 'snapshot' and become a 'Photograph' What exactly is the difference or definition of each ?

Regards
Graham


When you think it does.

There are technical and compositional elements that make some photographs better than others. But most can be violated and still be photographs. The only thing that ultimately matters is whether you like it.

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Jul 2, 2017 16:49:15   #
IBM
 
Gene51 wrote:
Sorry, but I don't think your definition covers it. These images, given the situation, are both "quick grabs" and truly impactful images - no thought here, just reaction and instinctive timing. I would not regard these as snapshots, even though planning and deliberation was not possible at the time they were "grabbed."


That's all any photo is . It's when it's developed and enlarged and framed for a hang up display on a wall or or in the news paper and time
Magazine, then it becomes a photograph , I have a lot of snaps on cd disk, and Sandisk , but there is a couple of potential photographs
In there some where , just have to bring them out and let them morph , , the question is the same as asking when does a caterpillar become
a Butterfly , when it comes out of the pupa.

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Jul 2, 2017 17:19:21   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
tdekany wrote:
Most of us are not professionals because we lack talent. I can assure you that a talented photographer can create those same images with either your or my gear.

Or are you saying that if you were given the best gear, you could all of a sudden take award winners? Because I sure couldn't.


1. Probably not with mine.
2. Give it up--you're obfuscating now.
3. I've known people like you--you know you're right and everyone who doesn't agree with you is wrong, dead wrong.

Don't bother to reply; I'm leaving this conversation which has turned into . . . .

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Jul 2, 2017 17:28:41   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
jaymatt wrote:
1. Probably not with mine.
2. Give it up--you're obfuscating now.
3. I've known people like you--you know you're right and everyone who doesn't agree with you is wrong, dead wrong.

Don't bother to reply; I'm leaving this conversation which has turned into . . . .


What am I saying? And trust me, you don't know me.

I believe that most of us are snap shot shooters. Just like owning a fast car doesn't make you a race car driver.

If you have an issue with that, you may feel insecure about your "talent".

No one needs to agree with me. Unless you were blind, you should not have any issues seeing it.

Even with your camera, talented photographers can take award winners.

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Jul 2, 2017 19:10:58   #
hassighedgehog Loc: Corona, CA
 
Instead of defining a person as a "snapshooter" or "photographer" just define the individual image as a snapshot or photograph. A snapshot would be an image that you would not care to show another photographer who you consider more skilled than yourself, except for critical analysis. You might show it to a relative who wanted to see the scene or persons in the image. A photograph would be one that you consider demonstrating good technique.

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