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Jun 24, 2017 01:04:12   #
dane004 Loc: WYOMING
 
“F8 and be there” Most of us have heard about it. I used the F8 set it and forget it when I was shooting dirt track racing. Now it is sometimes referred to as “Hyperfocal Distance” or “Zone Focus”.
35mm lenses had strange little marks like the band ABBA except the marks were like “L” back to back.
When you set your lens at f8 everything from the closest object to infinity would be in focus. Depending on the lens everything from say 8’ to infinity would be in focus. So point shoot, use a light meter to adjust for shutter speed and ASA within the range of the film you were using.
Today no film. However we have ASA, Shutter speed, and aperture to control our cameras.
I have 2 canon lenses that have the “L” a 50mm and a 85mm. These lenses have a little window where you can see the aperture settings. Both of mine show f22 as the as the hyper focus aperture.
Check out your lenses find the hyper focal aperture have fun take some photos see what happens.

An example not very good of Hyper focus every thing from about 3 feet to the door 28 ft away is in focus.
An example not very good of Hyper focus every thin...
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Jun 24, 2017 06:59:36   #
PAToGraphy Loc: Portland ME area
 
dane004 wrote:
“F8 and be there” Most of us have heard about it. I used the F8 set it and forget it when I was shooting dirt track racing. Now it is sometimes referred to as “Hyperfocal Distance” or “Zone Focus”.
35mm lenses had strange little marks like the band ABBA except the marks were like “L” back to back.
When you set your lens at f8 everything from the closest object to infinity would be in focus. Depending on the lens everything from say 8’ to infinity would be in focus. So point shoot, use a light meter to adjust for shutter speed and ASA within the range of the film you were using.
Today no film. However we have ASA, Shutter speed, and aperture to control our cameras.
I have 2 canon lenses that have the “L” a 50mm and a 85mm. These lenses have a little window where you can see the aperture settings. Both of mine show f22 as the as the hyper focus aperture.
Check out your lenses find the hyper focal aperture have fun take some photos see what happens.
“F8 and be there” Most of us have heard about ... (show quote)


Thanks, dane. I hope to be able to give this a go today. Like your garden!

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Jun 24, 2017 07:22:56   #
Roadrunner Loc: Quebec, Canada
 
f/6 three bursts 1/8, 1/13, 1/5 ISO 100. Tried f/6 because of the short distance and lighting...dunno if it works as such tho......



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Jun 24, 2017 08:31:46   #
dane004 Loc: WYOMING
 
Roadrunner wrote:
f/6 three bursts 1/8, 1/13, 1/5 ISO 100. Tried f/6 because of the short distance and lighting...dunno if it works as such tho......


RR good morning. Nicely done the foreground and the background are in focus.. The thing is Jim these new lenses f8 might not be the hyperfocus aperture.

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Jun 24, 2017 09:34:05   #
Roadrunner Loc: Quebec, Canada
 
dane004 wrote:
RR good morning. Nicely done the foreground and the background are in focus.. The thing is Jim these new lenses f8 might not be the hyperfocus aperture.


LOL.....now I speak ony French in my daily life and ''new'' words are hard to translate...such as Hyperfocus...

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Jun 24, 2017 10:07:32   #
mgstrawn Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
dane004 wrote:
“F8 and be there” Most of us have heard about it. I used the F8 set it and forget it when I was shooting dirt track racing. Now it is sometimes referred to as “Hyperfocal Distance” or “Zone Focus”.
35mm lenses had strange little marks like the band ABBA except the marks were like “L” back to back.
When you set your lens at f8 everything from the closest object to infinity would be in focus. Depending on the lens everything from say 8’ to infinity would be in focus. So point shoot, use a light meter to adjust for shutter speed and ASA within the range of the film you were using.
Today no film. However we have ASA, Shutter speed, and aperture to control our cameras.
I have 2 canon lenses that have the “L” a 50mm and a 85mm. These lenses have a little window where you can see the aperture settings. Both of mine show f22 as the as the hyper focus aperture.
Check out your lenses find the hyper focal aperture have fun take some photos see what happens.
“F8 and be there” Most of us have heard about ... (show quote)


Excited to work on this today! I need some good brain stimulation! Here is the link to another article on the subject that along with Dane's explanation, I'm beginning to understand!
https://photographylife.com/hyperfocal-distance-explained

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Jun 24, 2017 14:26:33   #
dane004 Loc: WYOMING
 
mgstrawn wrote:
Excited to work on this today! I need some good brain stimulation! Here is the link to another article on the subject that along with Dane's explanation, I'm beginning to understand!
https://photographylife.com/hyperfocal-distance-explained


mgstrawn I hope you have a great day.

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Jun 24, 2017 17:35:12   #
judy juul Loc: Cheshire, Ct.
 
Crazy busy day today! Worked this A.M. ,then a family reunion and a graduation party this eve.....I'll probably not get to it till tomorrow....

Gorgeous afternoon her-hope to catch up soon!

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Jun 24, 2017 18:25:52   #
mgstrawn Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
dane004 wrote:
mgstrawn I hope you have a great day.


Thank you ~ I hope you are having a good day! Incessant rain today, so no experimenting for me. Tomorrow is supposed to be sunny

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Jun 24, 2017 19:18:47   #
Roadrunner Loc: Quebec, Canada
 
Free Sunday is here.....

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-469282-1.html#7876320

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Jun 24, 2017 20:43:44   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
I thought it might be helpful to look at real lenses. Posted below is a picture of two Super Takumar M42-mount lenses. The lens on the left has a focal length of 35mm and the lens on the right has a focal length of 50mm.

The numbers closest to the mount {bottom of the image} are the aperture ring.

The next set of numbers
16-8-4-^-4-8-16
are indicators for the distance scale above.

The red indicator mark shows the distance we are focusing at, while the {aperture} numbers on the right show the closest distance in the DOF, and those on the left show the furthest distance in the DOF.

In this case, I set each lens so that infinity is the furthest distance for F/8 {infinity mark is above "8" on the left side of the indicators.

For the 35mm lens, I am focusing at 15', and everything between 8' and infinity will be in the DOF.

For the 50mm lens, I am focusing at 30', and everything between 15' and infinity will be in the DOF.


added: these numbers make an exercise like this much easier, but they didn't last much beyond the advent of auto focus.


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Jun 24, 2017 21:04:56   #
Roadrunner Loc: Quebec, Canada
 
rehess wrote:
I thought it might be helpful to look at real lenses. Posted below is a picture of two Super Takumar M42-mount lenses. The lens on the left has a focal length of 35mm and the lens on the right has a focal length of 50mm.

The numbers closest to the mount {bottom of the image} are the aperture ring.

The next set of numbers
16-8-4-^-4-8-16
are indicators for the distance scale above.

The red indicator mark shows the distance we are focusing at, while the {aperture} numbers on the right show the closest distance in the DOF, and those on the left show the furthest distance in the DOF.

In this case, I set each lens so that infinity is the furthest distance for F/8 {infinity mark is above "8" on the left side of the indicators.

For the 35mm lens, I am focusing at 15', and everything between 8' and infinity will be in the DOF.

For the 50mm lens, I am focusing at 30', and everything between 15' and infinity will be in the DOF.


added: these numbers make an exercise like this much easier, but they didn't last much beyond the advent of auto focus.
I thought it might be helpful to look at real lens... (show quote)


That's a help. I guess the 8 was back then a standard, you started there..

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Jun 24, 2017 21:26:55   #
dane004 Loc: WYOMING
 
rehess wrote:
I thought it might be helpful to look at real lenses. Posted below is a picture of two Super Takumar M42-mount lenses. The lens on the left has a focal length of 35mm and the lens on the right has a focal length of 50mm.

The numbers closest to the mount {bottom of the image} are the aperture ring.

The next set of numbers
16-8-4-^-4-8-16
are indicators for the distance scale above.

The red indicator mark shows the distance we are focusing at, while the {aperture} numbers on the right show the closest distance in the DOF, and those on the left show the furthest distance in the DOF.

In this case, I set each lens so that infinity is the furthest distance for F/8 {infinity mark is above "8" on the left side of the indicators.

For the 35mm lens, I am focusing at 15', and everything between 8' and infinity will be in the DOF.

For the 50mm lens, I am focusing at 30', and everything between 15' and infinity will be in the DOF.


added: these numbers make an exercise like this much easier, but they didn't last much beyond the advent of auto focus.
I thought it might be helpful to look at real lens... (show quote)


rehess

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Jun 24, 2017 21:35:45   #
PAToGraphy Loc: Portland ME area
 
Sorry I didn't get back to play....

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Jun 24, 2017 21:41:48   #
lhammer43 Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
dane004 wrote:
“F8 and be there” Most of us have heard about it. I used the F8 set it and forget it when I was shooting dirt track racing. Now it is sometimes referred to as “Hyperfocal Distance” or “Zone Focus”.
35mm lenses had strange little marks like the band ABBA except the marks were like “L” back to back.
When you set your lens at f8 everything from the closest object to infinity would be in focus. Depending on the lens everything from say 8’ to infinity would be in focus. So point shoot, use a light meter to adjust for shutter speed and ASA within the range of the film you were using.
Today no film. However we have ASA, Shutter speed, and aperture to control our cameras.
I have 2 canon lenses that have the “L” a 50mm and a 85mm. These lenses have a little window where you can see the aperture settings. Both of mine show f22 as the as the hyper focus aperture.
Check out your lenses find the hyper focal aperture have fun take some photos see what happens.
“F8 and be there” Most of us... (show quote)


This is a great subject, Dane. Extremely important for high impact in your landscape type images. As you mention later the sweet spot for each lens you own will require some experimentation to what the f/# is to achieve the hyperfocus that will make you images really pop. I'm always experimenting with my lenses mostly because I don't write them down, and the memory's not so good. That's what's so great about digital, experimenting is really economical. Battery charges are cheap compared to film and development costs.

Shot along the "Battery" in Charleston. Metadata shows zoom lens at 18mm,f/9.5,1/200 sec,iso 200.
Shot along the "Battery" in Charleston.  Metadata ...
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just playing off the back porch stoop after sunset. 28mm,f/8,1/40 sec,iso1000
just playing off the back porch stoop after sunset...
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