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Jun 7, 2017 11:31:57   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
mongoose777 wrote:
C'mon man, to go from 500 to 8000 shots per battery is totally ridiculous to have such a broad range.
Most legitimate reviews out there dont even claim close to those high numbers. So, is there a magic battery out
there that gets such high numbers while others are not so lucky? Which is it really?


I said NO A9 gets 500 shots on a full charge. Did you miss that? I also told you to "look it up", meaning there are now literally DOZENS of A9 reviews on YouTube and the internet where reviewers checked battery life because that was one of the biggest complaints of the A7 series of full frame mirrorless cameras.

mongoose777 wrote:
D5 and 1DXII were also designed specifically for sports and wildlife while the current glass for both are the biggest assets, meanwhile sony just cannot compete in the super telephoto market. Not even third party companies like a sigma do not offer some of their best long lens in weather-sealed for sony.


All the Canon and Nikon and Sigma glass works on the A9. ALL OF IT. And MOST of it can be uses in full autofocus. Native lenses? Yes, Sony is releasing more and more E mount glass, some of it the best available regardless of mount.

mongoose777 wrote:
Until sony produces a great 400 2.8 lens and many other excellent lens Nikon already has, then I would consider the possibilities of owning the a9.
Nikon still has the better higher rez screen and a much higher ISO rating.
I personally wouldn't mind entertaining the idea of getting the a9 and a medium lens for a 3rd body as I cover most of the major sporting events from college to the pros in the DFW area.


You can use that Nikon glass on the A9.

You can not however, use Sony G Master glass on a Nikon.

And while the A9 is not perfect, it IS $2000 cheaper than the D5 and it offers SUPERIOR performance in MOST categories.

The best of all worlds.

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Jun 7, 2017 11:38:01   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
StanRP wrote:
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With the Sony, it uses a lot of power and gets through batteries. etc. etc.


https://twitter.com/tonynorthrup/status/855103932716244992?lang=en


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Jun 7, 2017 13:35:54   #
DHThomas Loc: Baton Rouge, LA
 
Note that the video was made with the Panasonic Lumix GH5.

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Jun 7, 2017 14:34:58   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
True.

Another mirrorless camera...

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Jun 7, 2017 15:03:48   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
CHOLLY wrote:
You can use that Nikon glass on the A9.

You can not however, use Sony G Master glass on a Nikon.

And while the A9 is not perfect, it IS $2000 cheaper than the D5 and it offers SUPERIOR performance in MOST categories.

The best of all worlds.


The Sony is very impressive.

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Jun 7, 2017 15:44:49   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
It is.

It would make a tempting second body if I had either a 1DXII or a D5 because it is much smaller and lighter and can use either Canon or Nikon glass. PLUS it's $1500 and $2000 respectively.

Put another way, you could keep your long primes on the Canon or Nikon, buy the A9 and use the savings to buy either a G Master or Sony Zeiss short or medium zoom telephoto for the close up action. Big lens on a monopod, small camera on a strap. You got everything covered.

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Jun 7, 2017 18:13:47   #
mongoose777 Loc: Frisco Texas
 
mas24 wrote:
The Canon 1DX Mark 2, released just last year, 2016, was the leading camera for the 2016 Olympics in Brazil. Then it was in use during the 2016 NFL Season. Before that, it was the 1DX as the leader. Both cameras used top grade Canon "L" lenses. The 24-70mm f2.8, the 70-200mm f2.8, and the 400mm f4, or f2.8. These are the preferred lenses of professional sports photographers. Especially pro football.


Oh, in that case we will just let you believe that then.
You do know they were both released about a month apart from each other, in time for the Olympics.
BTW, who said it was the leading camera for the the 2016 Olympics, Canon or was it their marketing?
Who said it was the same for the 2016 NFL season?
Please provide me some legitimate links, and Im not talking about showing me pictures of a lot of canon photographers
all bunched up together.
Either your a homer or just ignorant when it comes to knowing the real reason why there are many canon shooters at these events.
I know you've never really shot these events before or even on a weekly basis, otherwise you would know the reasons why.
I implore you do your homework and holler back once you fine the real answers.

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Jun 7, 2017 18:25:01   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 
mongoose777 wrote:
Oh, in that case we will just let you believe that then.
BTW, who said it was the leading camera for the the 2016 Olympics, Canon or was it their marketing?
Who said it was the same for the 2016 NFL season?
Please provide me some legitimate links, and Im not talking about showing me pictures of a lot of canon photographers
all bunched up together.
Either your a homer or just ignorant when it comes to knowing the real reason why there are many canon shooters at these events.
I know you've never really shot these events before or even on a weekly basis, otherwise you would know the reasons why.
I implore you do your homework and holler back once you fine the real answers.
Oh, in that case we will just let you believe that... (show quote)


Yes. It was indeed Canon's Marketing. They also teamed up with Getty Images to do the 2016 Olympics in Brazil.

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Jun 7, 2017 18:30:15   #
mongoose777 Loc: Frisco Texas
 
CHOLLY wrote:
You can use that Nikon glass on the A9.

You can not however, use Sony G Master glass on a Nikon.

And while the A9 is not perfect, it IS $2000 cheaper than the D5 and it offers SUPERIOR performance in MOST categories.

The best of all worlds.


Why would you even say such a thing that the a9 is somewhat superior in most categories, when there are not enough real world events to
show side by side comparisons?
Lets see what the a9 can really do under some of the best and hardest sports to cover in volleyball & Lacrosse as well as Pro sports
in Hockey, Soccer & Football. The real true test for me will be with a 400 2.8 for most of those events, but Sony currently does not have one.
Im not saying the a9 is not a great camera, I am highly interested, but very much reserved until I know more about it, but IMO, the video certainly
did not help me out in saying 'YES I have to get this camera for sure.' However, I am looking to kick the tires a bit, but need much more proof.
BTW, I can get the exact same results with a D4s and even the D810 bc those conditions on the video are hardly anything to brag about.
Best of both worlds is good too.

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Jun 7, 2017 19:17:20   #
mongoose777 Loc: Frisco Texas
 
mas24 wrote:
Yes. It was indeed Canon's Marketing. They also teamed up with Getty Images to do the 2016 Olympics in Brazil.


Thank you sir, you are correct, but AP and probably about 90% of the sports media outlets are nothing more than media whores to Canon bc they practically
give away their gear, chalk this up to Canon's marketing strategy as they are second to none in this industry, which is why Sony will never get a piece of the pie.
You are no longer ignorant, as I now appoint you to journey man. :)

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Jun 7, 2017 19:29:49   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
CHOLLY wrote:
It is.

It would make a tempting second body if I had either a 1DXII or a D5 because it is much smaller and lighter and can use either Canon or Nikon glass. PLUS it's $1500 and $2000 respectively.

Put another way, you could keep your long primes on the Canon or Nikon, buy the A9 and use the savings to buy either a G Master or Sony Zeiss short or medium zoom telephoto for the close up action. Big lens on a monopod, small camera on a strap. You got everything covered.
It is. br br It would make a tempting second body... (show quote)



Hope Canon steps up mirrorless development. The M5 is a big step for them but they have a ways to go.
I do believe battery life and over heating is the hold back for full pro use. Once Canon breaks this barrier the 1D series will be the international go to pro camera.
But photo performance wise the Sony is really setting the standard. Just need to get the technical issues fixed then watch out. Of course there will be a Nikon mirrorless pro camera by then. It will be a Sony A9 with the Nikon name sort of like Minoltas with the Leica name and price of the past.

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Jun 7, 2017 21:39:37   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Check out Tony Northrup's tweet:

https://twitter.com/tonynorthrup/status/855103932716244992?lang=en


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Jun 7, 2017 21:41:45   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
CHOLLY wrote:


Wow!!!!!!

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Jun 7, 2017 22:53:25   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
There are dozens of videos on YouTube where reviewers get several thousand shots off one charge. I saw a video by a guy named Jeremy Smith who said he shot thousands of images and mixed in video over a 1 week period on a single charge and STILL had 22% left.

This is good news in the mirrorless world. I think it's because the electronic shutter uses a fraction of the energy of the mechanical shutter.

A big battery life is a must for a sports shooter... but it comes in handy for an all-day wedding shoot too. Or multiple graduations.

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Jun 9, 2017 14:38:50   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Here is a video of someone using an adapted Canon 500mm prime on the A9:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQJa9u3Cdg4

Looks pretty good to me.

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