Too much brown in the picture to have the man stand out?
Jun 1, 2017 14:12:27 #
I love this picture but I shot it in JPEG not raw and I'm kicking myself now since I can't edit it to get it usable. Is there too much brown (brown shades) to have the man in the picture stand out? I blurred most of the seats around him to get him to stand out.
Here is another angle I took to give you the perspective of the shot.. I haven't edited this yet...
Here is another angle I took to give you the perspective of the shot.. I haven't edited this yet...
Jun 1, 2017 14:24:15 #
romanticf16
Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
Select all the seats and change there color tone-should bee doable in almost any program from paint shop to Photoshop.
Jun 1, 2017 14:48:06 #
To my eye the biggest problem is that his face is in shadow. Whatever you do to the seats, that fact is going to weaken the shot. The shadowing looks too deep to be recoverable.
Beyond that, bright stuff catches the eye and dark stuff doesn't, so you'd have to reverse the fact that the surroundings are brighter than the guy - who is presumably the intended main subject.
Beyond that, bright stuff catches the eye and dark stuff doesn't, so you'd have to reverse the fact that the surroundings are brighter than the guy - who is presumably the intended main subject.
Jun 1, 2017 14:59:26 #
Jun 1, 2017 21:38:21 #
rpavich wrote:
this is one way...quick and dirty.
That's much better but I want to submit this and it's too far off the color of the real ones
Jun 2, 2017 03:26:24 #
Annie B wrote:
That's much better but I want to submit this and it's too far off the color of the real ones
Actually, i was just having a bit of fun with it.
Is it for a contest or something?
PS: RG is right, the time to get it right was when shooting and seeing the light. He's right about having the subject brighter than the background. This is with the background darkened and his shadows improved and to me, it really doesn't help anything. He's just not significantly different enough to really stand out in some way.
Jun 2, 2017 03:48:16 #
Oh wait.
so the shot is the shot with all of the other stuff in it where the man is just one small element?
That's more like the issue, that he's no more emphasized than anything else in the shot. I'd have thought that the pavilion or stage was the subject because of it's placement and size.
so the shot is the shot with all of the other stuff in it where the man is just one small element?
That's more like the issue, that he's no more emphasized than anything else in the shot. I'd have thought that the pavilion or stage was the subject because of it's placement and size.
Jun 2, 2017 06:53:31 #
rpavich wrote:
this is one way...quick and dirty.
Big difference. It's amazing what we can do with digital processing.
Jun 2, 2017 06:56:43 #
Jun 2, 2017 06:57:54 #
rpavich wrote:
Oh wait.
so the shot is the shot with all of the other stuff in it where the man is just one small element?
That's more like the issue, that he's no more emphasized than anything else in the shot. I'd have thought that the pavilion or stage was the subject because of it's placement and size.
so the shot is the shot with all of the other stuff in it where the man is just one small element?
That's more like the issue, that he's no more emphasized than anything else in the shot. I'd have thought that the pavilion or stage was the subject because of it's placement and size.
I think when I was taking the picture I wanted to show the outdoor amphitheater. It was about trying to show the man SITTING IN the amphitheater not the man. When I uploaded the I thought maybe the man was more interesting. Good thing about this is I can go back as many times as I need to get the shot right.
I was standing in the shade and I thought that would shield me from the glare. Should I have not shot wide but spot directly on the man, is that why the shot came out the way it did?
Jun 2, 2017 07:47:47 #
Annie B wrote:
It's the contrasty light, the man's skin color vs. the seats, the shadows on him. You could try changing his shoes, cap or jacket colors to something that would stand out more. Neon green shoes, a red cap? Should I have not shot wide but spot directly on the man, is that why the shot came out the way it did?
Jun 2, 2017 08:20:12 #
Annie B wrote:
That's much better but I want to submit this and it's too far off the color of the real ones
Here's another version...
Jun 2, 2017 09:21:30 #
Annie B wrote:
I think when I was taking the picture I wanted to ... (show quote)
No...the light is the light. You just need to learn to see it before pulling the trigger. Our eyes are very good at "fixing" big dynamic ranges and making us thing things are closer than they are in highlights and shadows.
As for the composition, the two shots are just different, they are intended to accomplish different things.
The next time you do this; stop and think about what you want to convey, move around, frame the shot, in and out...and then work the scene for what it's worth.
It's good practice to think this way.
Don't sweat it...everybody goes through this.
Jun 2, 2017 09:50:35 #
rpavich wrote:
No...the light is the light. You just need to lear... (show quote)
Thanks...Great advice
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