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NEED ADVICE JUST BOUGHT NIKON DF WHAT FIRST FX LENSES?
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May 16, 2017 03:17:59   #
IBM
 
SteveR wrote:
A 24-70mm is too heavy? How is it any heavier than the 24-120? Doesn't make sense. I don't think anybody else who shoots full frame Nikons would agree with you either.


Well guess again , I have a 70-300mm vr nikon and it hasent been off in four years and that child in the avatar the one in blue ecould beat me in arm wrestling ,

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May 16, 2017 03:22:05   #
IBM
 
IBM wrote:
Well guess again , I have a 70-300mm vr nikon and it hasent been off in four years and that child in the avatar the one in blue ecould beat me in arm wrestling ,


I was addressing Dina quest Steve

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May 16, 2017 05:06:37   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
DaveyDitzer wrote:
No longer sitting on the sidelines. I clicked on a Nikon Df. Need advice on what first lens to add. I currently have D5300 with 16-80 f2.8-f4 and 55-300 f3.5 - f5.6 both DX lenses. Interests include: people, family, wildlife, scenery, travel. I hope to be able to get better images in low light and when cropping is called for, hence the FF. I appreciate you all and look forward to your help. Thank you.

Since you know the effective FX focal lengths you’ve been using with your DX camera, why not just buy those focal lengths? You will enjoy better images in low-light with the Df.

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May 16, 2017 07:38:09   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
SteveR wrote:
A 24-70mm is too heavy? How is it any heavier than the 24-120? Doesn't make sense. I don't think anybody else who shoots full frame Nikons would agree with you either.


Anyone who checked the specs would see that the newest 24-70 is 50% heavier.
The older, non VR version is 25% heavier.

I have the newer one and it is heavy, but worth the weight.

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May 16, 2017 09:27:55   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
Mac, thank you. But, I am recovering from eye surgery and so auto focus will be very important for several months, maybe forever (which at my age isn't as long as it sounds!)

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May 16, 2017 09:32:24   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Bill_de wrote:
Anyone who checked the specs would see that the newest 24-70 is 50% heavier.
The older, non VR version is 25% heavier.

I have the newer one and it is heavy, but worth the weight.

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I just checked the specs, and actually the newer one is only 2% heavier. It is not that big a jump in weight! So no matter which one someone owns, it is still worth the weight!

It is interesting to note how people are always saying one camera or lens is SO much heavier than another, when actually the differences are not that great. [Unless, of course, you are going to one of those very long and very expensive lenses. Or from a point and shoot to a full frame DSLR.]

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May 16, 2017 09:36:26   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
SusanFromVermont wrote:
I just checked the specs, and actually the newer one is only 2% heavier. It is not that big a jump in weight! So no matter which one someone owns, it is still worth the weight!

It is interesting to note how people are always saying one camera or lens is SO much heavier than another, when actually the differences are not that great. [Unless, of course, you are going to one of those very long and very expensive lenses. Or from a point and shoot to a full frame DSLR.]


On the Nikon site it looked to me like 25, 31, and 38 ounces. If I misread it I apologize.

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May 16, 2017 11:36:21   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Bill_de wrote:
On the Nikon site it looked to me like 25, 31, and 38 ounces. If I misread it I apologize.

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What lens was 25oz? The 24-70mm f/2.8 non-VR model is 31.7oz and the VR model is 38.4oz. That is what I was going by. If gauging a comparison with a 25oz lens, then your math is correct!

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May 16, 2017 12:29:10   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
SusanFromVermont wrote:
What lens was 25oz? The 24-70mm f/2.8 non-VR model is 31.7oz and the VR model is 38.4oz. That is what I was going by. If gauging a comparison with a 25oz lens, then your math is correct!


I quoted, and was responding to Steve.

SteveR wrote:
A 24-70mm is too heavy? How is it any heavier than the 24-120? Doesn't make sense. I don't think anybody else who shoots full frame Nikons would agree with you either.


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May 16, 2017 12:50:14   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Bill_de wrote:
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All clear now! I had read the postings, but did not connect the dots. My turn to apologize!

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May 16, 2017 12:53:15   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
SusanFromVermont wrote:
All clear now! I had read the postings, but did not connect the dots. My turn to apologize!


No problem Susan.

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May 16, 2017 13:25:05   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
Bill_de wrote:
No problem Susan.

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May 16, 2017 20:47:23   #
IBM
 
SusanFromVermont wrote:
Looking at what you have been using in DX lenses, I think the 24-70mm f/2.8 is a good place to start. Then the 70-200mm f/2.8 for distance shots. If you have been using the widest part of your 16-80mm, you can consider the 14-24mm f/2.8 or a prime lens to fill that slot. These three lenses are Nikon's classic trio for quality images.

Others are recommending some of the lenses with a wider range of focal lengths. Those are good lenses, too, for convenience [and improving quality in manufacture has made them improved these days]. But it is still true that sharpness will not be as consistent over the full range in those lenses.

Whatever lenses you choose, enjoy your new camera!
Looking at what you have been using in DX lenses, ... (show quote)


You have a camera that has a very good sensor ,to get the best out of it you will have to buy the best and most costly lens you can affor it
Makes a difference , I have read lots of write ups on this subject , there is lenses that the quality full frames like the D800 and and others
Of the same price range , you buy the best and that usually means you are buying close to $2000 and over , a lot buy the Swiss and other
Exotics made in European countries. And that's just a start there's upgrading computers, bigger printers , most know this , but there is a lot
Who are fixed on full frame and that's all they have looked into so you buy it . Then gradually discover all the other costly stuff if you
Want to do it right , you might not been a pixel peeper , but if your not then what is the point , if I was going that route I would buy the camera a couple of primes , then look at photos in your computer, pick what you want to print , then get it done . Put all other keeper's
In or on what you usually do . I put them o . Disk or or jump drive ,

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May 16, 2017 21:20:04   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
IBM wrote:
You have a camera that has a very good sensor ,to get the best out of it you will have to buy the best and most costly lens you can affor it
Makes a difference , I have read lots of write ups on this subject , there is lenses that the quality full frames like the D800 and and others
Of the same price range , you buy the best and that usually means you are buying close to $2000 and over , a lot buy the Swiss and other
Exotics made in European countries. And that's just a start there's upgrading computers, bigger printers , most know this , but there is a lot
Who are fixed on full frame and that's all they have looked into so you buy it . Then gradually discover all the other costly stuff if you
Want to do it right , you might not been a pixel peeper , but if your not then what is the point , if I was going that route I would buy the camera a couple of primes , then look at photos in your computer, pick what you want to print , then get it done . Put all other keeper's
In or on what you usually do . I put them o . Disk or or jump drive ,
You have a camera that has a very good sensor ,to ... (show quote)

IBM, You are right about getting the best lenses you can afford! This is why I suggested the "trinity" of lenses. To me, that is a great place to start, buying other lenses when what you have will not do as good a job for a certain task. I have the 24-70mm f/2.8 and it is a great lens. Still working on acquiring the other two!

Photography is fun, but it can be a "money pit". As you point out, a lot of people do not plan ahead for all they will need for their photography. Of course, it can be done on a budget, as a good photographer can take good pictures with just about any level of camera made these days. Accepting the limitations of your income is often the hardest part about assembling gear that will allow you to continue improving your photography! [It took me 5 years with my first DSLR - crop sensor - to work my way along to a full frame camera. During that time I got a good computer, large monitor, and FX lenses.] Planning and patience are important!

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May 16, 2017 22:31:36   #
Erik_H Loc: Denham Springs, Louisiana
 
William Royer wrote:
I just rented (from Lens Rental) the Df for a mini vacation because I've been fascinated by it as a potential second camera to my D810. Liked the camera very much. IMO, one of the nice things about the camera is its relatively small size combined with an excellent full frame sensor. Therefore, putting a large zoom lens on it seems to defeat one of its advantages; plus the camera does not have a large beefy grip to help control the resulting front weight. I would suggest that the first lens(es) purchased be smaller-sized, prime lenses. The ones I used most when I had it were the 50mm, 35mm and 20mm. If you don't mind manual focus (which is fairly easy with the camera's confirmation dot), I concur with a previous suggestion to try AIS lenses (this camera cries out for the 50mm f1.2). Enjoy!
I just rented (from Lens Rental) the Df for a mini... (show quote)

I wholly agree about putting a large zoom on the Df. I have a 70-200 f/2.8 and it is a bit unwieldy on mine. I usually have a 50mm or smaller zoom like the 28-105 or 35-135mm on it.

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